Package: emacs;
Reported by: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 19:21:02 UTC
Severity: normal
Found in version 30.1
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(Wed, 02 Jul 2025 19:21:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com>
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(Wed, 02 Jul 2025 19:21:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 12:19:31 -0700
If I run the attached code from the terminal using: #+begin_src sh emacs -batch -Q -l accept-process-bug.el #+end_src It will correctly run forever, processing output from the “yes” command (you can convince yourself of this by adding a debug statement inside the process filter, but it will be extremely noisy). If you now attempt to evaluate this code in a graphical Emacs running on macOS, it will immediately stall out. Running Emacs under lldb shows that it is reporting the following exception continuously: #+begin_example 2025-07-02 12:10:23.857272-0700 Emacs[34130:54192679] [General] nextEventMatchingMask should only be called from the Main Thread! 2025-07-02 12:10:23.857732-0700 Emacs[34130:54192679] [General] ( 0 CoreFoundation 0x0000000193d66ca0 __exceptionPreprocess + 176 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x000000019382ab90 objc_exception_throw + 88 2 AppKit 0x00000001985baefc -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 3068 3 AppKit 0x0000000197c0ec64 -[NSApplication run] + 480 4 Emacs 0x000000010040f400 -[EmacsApp run] + 100 5 Emacs 0x000000010040d35c ns_select_1 + 1080 6 Emacs 0x000000010040cefc ns_select + 72 7 Emacs 0x000000010036d148 wait_reading_process_output + 4784 8 Emacs 0x000000010036bdb8 Faccept_process_output + 1268 9 Emacs 0x00000001002cda90 eval_sub + 2252 10 Emacs 0x00000001002ce20c Fprogn + 112 11 Emacs 0x00000001002ce3b8 prog_ignore + 24 12 Emacs 0x00000001002d19ac Fwhile + 132 13 Emacs 0x00000001002cd62c eval_sub + 1128 14 Emacs 0x00000001002ce20c Fprogn + 112 15 Emacs 0x00000001002d108c FletX + 876 16 Emacs 0x00000001002cd62c eval_sub + 1128 17 Emacs 0x00000001002ce20c Fprogn + 112 18 Emacs 0x00000001002d84ec funcall_lambda + 1832 19 Emacs 0x00000001002d7618 funcall_general + 288 20 Emacs 0x00000001002cf438 Ffuncall + 472 21 Emacs 0x00000001003c3c10 invoke_thread_function + 64 22 Emacs 0x00000001002d32c4 internal_condition_case + 148 23 Emacs 0x00000001003c22dc run_thread + 344 24 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x0000000193c0ac0c _pthread_start + 136 25 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x0000000193c05b80 thread_start + 8 ) #+end_example While this is happening, the only thing I can do is send a SIGTERM to Emacs to force it to abort. Note that this does NOT happen in a graphical Emacs on GNU/Linux, as confirmed by Karthik Chikmagalur. Below is the Lisp code to reproduce this problem on macOS: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (message "Starting thread...") (let ((thread (make-thread #'(lambda () (let* (completed (proc (make-process :name "process" :command '("yes") :connection-type 'pipe :filter #'(lambda (_proc x)) :sentinel #'(lambda (_proc event) (message "Sentinel: %S" x) (setq completed t))))) (while (not completed) (thread-yield) (accept-process-output proc nil 100))))))) (message "Beginning yield loop...") (while (thread-live-p thread) (thread-yield)) (message "Joining thread...") (thread-join thread) (message "Test completed!")) #+end_src John Wiegley In GNU Emacs 30.1 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.5.0, NS appkit-2575.60 Version 15.5 (Build 24F74)) Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2575 System Description: macOS 15.5 Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/nix/store/mwy2gfjya1iv262gq75yav8qfpbhpm0l-emacs-30.1 --disable-build-details --with-modules --disable-ns-self-contained --with-ns --with-compress-install --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-native-compilation --with-imagemagick --with-mailutils --without-small-ja-dic --with-tree-sitter --without-xinput2 --without-xwidgets --without-dbus --without-selinux --disable-gc-mark-trace' Configured features: ACL GLIB GMP GNUTLS IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG RSVG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB Important settings: value of $EMACSLOADPATH: value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: 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(Thu, 03 Jul 2025 10:13:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #8 received at 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> Cc: 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 13:12:32 +0300
> From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 12:19:31 -0700 > Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, > contact <at> karthinks.com > > If I run the attached code from the terminal using: > > #+begin_src sh > emacs -batch -Q -l accept-process-bug.el > #+end_src > > It will correctly run forever, processing output from the “yes” command (you > can convince yourself of this by adding a debug statement inside the process > filter, but it will be extremely noisy). > > If you now attempt to evaluate this code in a graphical Emacs running on > macOS, it will immediately stall out. Running Emacs under lldb shows that it > is reporting the following exception continuously: Please elaborate on "will immediately stall". Does it mean it will not "run forever" as in batch mode? If so, what will it do instead? > #+begin_example > 2025-07-02 12:10:23.857272-0700 Emacs[34130:54192679] [General] nextEventMatchingMask should only be called from the Main Thread! This message seems to be relevant, no? Can some macOS expert explain what it means, and how is that related to ns_select? > 2025-07-02 12:10:23.857732-0700 Emacs[34130:54192679] [General] ( > 0 CoreFoundation 0x0000000193d66ca0 __exceptionPreprocess + 176 > 1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x000000019382ab90 objc_exception_throw + 88 > 2 AppKit 0x00000001985baefc -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 3068 > 3 AppKit 0x0000000197c0ec64 -[NSApplication run] + 480 > 4 Emacs 0x000000010040f400 -[EmacsApp run] + 100 > 5 Emacs 0x000000010040d35c ns_select_1 + 1080 > 6 Emacs 0x000000010040cefc ns_select + 72 > 7 Emacs 0x000000010036d148 wait_reading_process_output + 4784 > 8 Emacs 0x000000010036bdb8 Faccept_process_output + 1268 > 9 Emacs 0x00000001002cda90 eval_sub + 2252 > 10 Emacs 0x00000001002ce20c Fprogn + 112 > 11 Emacs 0x00000001002ce3b8 prog_ignore + 24 > 12 Emacs 0x00000001002d19ac Fwhile + 132 > 13 Emacs 0x00000001002cd62c eval_sub + 1128 > 14 Emacs 0x00000001002ce20c Fprogn + 112 > 15 Emacs 0x00000001002d108c FletX + 876 > 16 Emacs 0x00000001002cd62c eval_sub + 1128 > 17 Emacs 0x00000001002ce20c Fprogn + 112 > 18 Emacs 0x00000001002d84ec funcall_lambda + 1832 > 19 Emacs 0x00000001002d7618 funcall_general + 288 > 20 Emacs 0x00000001002cf438 Ffuncall + 472 > 21 Emacs 0x00000001003c3c10 invoke_thread_function + 64 > 22 Emacs 0x00000001002d32c4 internal_condition_case + 148 > 23 Emacs 0x00000001003c22dc run_thread + 344 > 24 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x0000000193c0ac0c _pthread_start + 136 > 25 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x0000000193c05b80 thread_start + 8 > ) > #+end_example
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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com>, 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: bug#78946: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 14:39:04 +0200
>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 13:12:32 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> said: >> #+begin_example >> 2025-07-02 12:10:23.857272-0700 Emacs[34130:54192679] [General] >> nextEventMatchingMask should only be called from the Main Thread! Eli> This message seems to be relevant, no? Can some macOS expert explain Eli> what it means, and how is that related to ns_select? On macOS only the main thread is allowed to process events, which is why ns_select normally does a whole dance with a separate thread which posts events for the main thread to react to. Itʼs fragile, and should probably be re-written, but nobody has stepped up to do it. John, does it help if you stick something like if ([[NSThread currentThread] isMainThread]) { } around the [NSApp run]; in `ns_select_1'? Robert --
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From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 10:24:44 -0700
>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >> If you now attempt to evaluate this code in a graphical Emacs running on >> macOS, it will immediately stall out. Running Emacs under lldb shows that it >> is reporting the following exception continuously: > Please elaborate on "will immediately stall". Does it mean it will not "run > forever" as in batch mode? If so, what will it do instead? By stall I mean it shows a “spinning cursor of death” and will never recover. Meanwhile, if I am running under the LLDB debugger, I see the exception I had posted being repeated continuously for as long as Emacs is running. >> #+begin_example >> 2025-07-02 12:10:23.857272-0700 Emacs[34130:54192679] [General] nextEventMatchingMask should only be called from the Main Thread! > This message seems to be relevant, no? Can some macOS expert explain what it > means, and how is that related to ns_select? Yes, I think this is entirely relevant. :) I will try Robert’s suggestion next. John
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From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: bug#78946: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 16:00:23 -0700
>>>>> Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> writes: > John, does it help if you stick something like > if ([[NSThread currentThread] isMainThread]) > { > } > around the > [NSApp run]; > in `ns_select_1'? Hi Robert, With this change, I’m able to run the tests successfully 10,000 times in my interactive Emacs on macOS. John
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> Cc: 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2025 09:21:22 +0300
> From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> > Cc: 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com > Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 10:24:44 -0700 > > >>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: > > >> If you now attempt to evaluate this code in a graphical Emacs running on > >> macOS, it will immediately stall out. Running Emacs under lldb shows that it > >> is reporting the following exception continuously: > > > Please elaborate on "will immediately stall". Does it mean it will not "run > > forever" as in batch mode? If so, what will it do instead? > > By stall I mean it shows a “spinning cursor of death” and will never recover. What does it mean in terms of what the Emacs threads do at that time? I don't think I understand that from the fact that you see that spinning cursor. Does Apple document when it is shown?
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From: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 23:34:04 -0700
>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >> By stall I mean it shows a “spinning cursor of death” and will never recover. > What does it mean in terms of what the Emacs threads do at that time? I > don't think I understand that from the fact that you see that spinning > cursor. Does Apple document when it is shown? I don’t know what Emacs is doing at that time, because all I see is a frozen frame and a colorful spinning cursor, and in lldb I’m seeing an exception being reported over and over again. I have no further information, unfortunately. Applying the fix that Robert suggested resolves the problem, so I think it’s pretty clear that what’s happening is that a call is being made that can only happen in the main thread. John
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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com, Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> Subject: Re: bug#78946: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2025 13:46:19 +0200
>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 16:00:23 -0700, John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> said: >>>>> Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> writes: >> John, does it help if you stick something like >> if ([[NSThread currentThread] isMainThread]) >> { >> } >> around the >> [NSApp run]; >> in `ns_select_1'? John> Hi Robert, John> With this change, I’m able to run the tests successfully 10,000 times in my John> interactive Emacs on macOS. Thatʼs encouraging. Alan, does this change make sense? (Iʼve swapped out what little I know about the macOS event loop 😀) Robert --
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(Fri, 04 Jul 2025 20:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #29 received at 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> To: Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> Cc: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: bug#78946: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 21:20:07 +0100
On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 01:46:19PM +0200, Robert Pluim wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2025 16:00:23 -0700, John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> said: > > >>>>> Robert Pluim <rpluim <at> gmail.com> writes: > >> John, does it help if you stick something like > > >> if ([[NSThread currentThread] isMainThread]) > >> { > >> } > > >> around the > > >> [NSApp run]; > > >> in `ns_select_1'? > > John> Hi Robert, > > John> With this change, I’m able to run the tests successfully 10,000 times in my > John> interactive Emacs on macOS. > > Thatʼs encouraging. Alan, does this change make sense? (Iʼve swapped > out what little I know about the macOS event loop 😀) Not really... The whole thing is a mess. The return here: if (![NSThread isMainThread] || (timeout && timeout->tv_sec == 0 && timeout->tv_nsec == 0)) thread_select (pselect, nfds, readfds, writefds, exceptfds, timeout, sigmask); Was removed and I don't think it should have been, but it was to prevent freezes, apparently... I don't know or recall how this helped, it looks completely wrong to me. Surely that thread_select call should return a result? Sorry, this hasn't been much help. -- Alan Third
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(Sun, 06 Jul 2025 19:13:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Message #32 received at 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: "J.D. Smith" <jdtsmith <at> gmail.com> To: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, 78946 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, contact <at> karthinks.com Subject: Re: bug#78946: 30.1; accept-process-output not allowed in threads on macOS Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2025 15:12:31 -0400
John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com> writes: > If I run the attached code from the terminal using: > > #+begin_src sh > emacs -batch -Q -l accept-process-bug.el > #+end_src > > > It will correctly run forever, processing output from the “yes” command (you > can convince yourself of this by adding a debug statement inside the process > filter, but it will be extremely noisy). > > If you now attempt to evaluate this code in a graphical Emacs running on > macOS, it will immediately stall out. Running Emacs under lldb shows that it > is reporting the following exception continuously: > FYI, the emacs-mac build does not suffer this problem. It runs until you C-g, reporting: Starting thread... Beginning yield loop... Joining thread... Test completed!
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