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When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
its contents.

To reproduce:

emacs -Q
(require 'package-vc)
(setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)

In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.

One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.

Many thanks,

David.

In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.31, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2025-10-30
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> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:24:35 +0000
> From:  David Fussner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
> package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
> of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
> its contents.
> 
> To reproduce:
> 
> emacs -Q
> (require 'package-vc)
> (setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
> ;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
> M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
> ;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)
> 
> In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
> you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
> dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.
> 
> One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.

Thanks.

Stefan and Philip, any comments? should the patch be installed?

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When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
its contents.

To reproduce:

emacs -Q
(require 'package-vc)
(setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)

In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.

One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.

Many thanks,

David.

In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.31, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2025-10-30
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>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:24:35 +0000
>> From:  David Fussner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>> 
>> When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
>> package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
>> of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
>> its contents.
>> 
>> To reproduce:
>> 
>> emacs -Q
>> (require 'package-vc)
>> (setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
>> ;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
>> M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
>> ;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)
>> 
>> In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
>> you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
>> dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.
>> 
>> One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Stefan and Philip, any comments? should the patch be installed?

The issue is that the auctex manual fails to build anyway, so this is a
bad example to test the change.  That being said, it makes sense that if
we have multiple .texi/.org files, we don't want all of them overwriting
the same output file.  But I have tried it with the debbugs package,
which also has two manuals, and in that case the change DTRT, so I'll
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:24:35 +0000
>> From:  David Fussner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>> 
>> When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
>> package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
>> of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
>> its contents.
>> 
>> To reproduce:
>> 
>> emacs -Q
>> (require 'package-vc)
>> (setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
>> ;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
>> M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
>> ;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)
>> 
>> In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
>> you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
>> dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.
>> 
>> One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Stefan and Philip, any comments? should the patch be installed?

The issue is that the auctex manual fails to build anyway, so this is a
bad example to test the change.  That being said, it makes sense that if
we have multiple .texi/.org files, we don't want all of them overwriting
the same output file.  But I have tried it with the debbugs package,
which also has two manuals, and in that case the change DTRT, so I'll
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When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
its contents.

To reproduce:

emacs -Q
(require 'package-vc)
(setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)

In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.

One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it thoroughly.

Many thanks,

David.

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Thank you, Philip and Eli.

David.

On Sat, 8 Nov 2025, 13:24 Philip Kaludercic, <philipk@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> >> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:24:35 +0000
> >> From:  David Fussner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> >>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> >>
> >> When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,
> >> package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one
> >> of them, and the title of that manual doesn't always correspond with
> >> its contents.
> >>
> >> To reproduce:
> >>
> >> emacs -Q
> >> (require 'package-vc)
> >> (setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
> >> ;; If your make isn't GNU make then it's more complicated
> >> M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN
> >> ;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)
> >>
> >> In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, auctex.info. If
> >> you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. The
> >> dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.
> >>
> >> One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven't tested it
> thoroughly.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Stefan and Philip, any comments? should the patch be installed?
>
> The issue is that the auctex manual fails to build anyway, so this is a
> bad example to test the change.  That being said, it makes sense that if
> we have multiple .texi/.org files, we don't want all of them overwriting
> the same output file.  But I have tried it with the debbugs package,
> which also has two manuals, and in that case the change DTRT, so I'll
> apply the patch to master and push it.  Thanks!
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Thank you, Philip and Eli.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">David.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote =
gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 8 Nov =
2025, 13:24 Philip Kaludercic, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:philipk@HIDDEN">ph=
ilipk@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
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 Zaretskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 15:24:35 +0000<br>
&gt;&gt; From:=C2=A0 David Fussner via &quot;Bug reports for GNU Emacs,<br>
&gt;&gt;=C2=A0 the Swiss army knife of text editors&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bug-gnu-em=
acs@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; When an ELPA package contains more than one info manual,<br>
&gt;&gt; package-vc-install (and package-vc-rebuild) will only install one<=
br>
&gt;&gt; of them, and the title of that manual doesn&#39;t always correspon=
d with<br>
&gt;&gt; its contents.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; To reproduce:<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; emacs -Q<br>
&gt;&gt; (require &#39;package-vc)<br>
&gt;&gt; (setopt package-vc-allow-build-commands &#39;(auctex))<br>
&gt;&gt; ;; If your make isn&#39;t GNU make then it&#39;s more complicated<=
br>
&gt;&gt; M-x package-vc-install RTN auctex RTN<br>
&gt;&gt; ;; (the cloning takes quite a while, at least for me -- apologies)=
<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; In ~/emacs.d/elpa/auctex there will be one info file, <a href=3D"h=
ttp://auctex.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">auctex.i=
nfo</a>. If<br>
&gt;&gt; you look inside, it actually contains the preview-latex manual. Th=
e<br>
&gt;&gt; dir file claims to provide both auctex and preview-latex.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; One-liner attached which works for me, but I haven&#39;t tested it=
 thoroughly.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Stefan and Philip, any comments? should the patch be installed?<br>
<br>
The issue is that the auctex manual fails to build anyway, so this is a<br>
bad example to test the change.=C2=A0 That being said, it makes sense that =
if<br>
we have multiple .texi/.org files, we don&#39;t want all of them overwritin=
g<br>
the same output file.=C2=A0 But I have tried it with the debbugs package,<b=
r>
which also has two manuals, and in that case the change DTRT, so I&#39;ll<b=
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apply the patch to master and push it.=C2=A0 Thanks!<br>
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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:

> The issue is that the auctex manual fails to build anyway, so this is a
> bad example to test the change.

Can you please elaborate what breaks?  I don't use package-vc, but
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ELPA (inside auctex-14.1.0.tar for instance).  What am I missing?

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Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> The issue is that the auctex manual fails to build anyway, so this is a
>> bad example to test the change.
>
> Can you please elaborate what breaks?  I don't use package-vc, but
> AUCTeX manual is built by the make file provided by AUCTeX and also on
> ELPA (inside auctex-14.1.0.tar for instance).  What am I missing?

It fails with the following error messages:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
auctex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
auctex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
preview-latex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
preview-latex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
preview-latex.texi:508: @include: could not find preview-dtxdoc.texi
preview-latex.texi:441: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Provided commands'
preview-latex.texi:460: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Package options'
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If we should not build the documentation directly from the .texi files,
but makeinfo has to be invoked with additional options, then we should
remove the :doc entry in the package specification.

> Best, Arash

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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:

> It fails with the following error messages:
>
> auctex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
> auctex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
> auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
> preview-latex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
> preview-latex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
> preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED

Thanks.  This is from AUCTeX makefile[1]:

  doc/version.texi:
          echo @set VERSION $(AUCTEXVERSION) >$@
          echo @set UPDATED $(AUCTEXDATE) >>$@

On my HD, I see this after running the make:

  $ cat doc/version.texi
  @set VERSION 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31
  @set UPDATED 2025-11-05_15:04:31

If I fetch auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar[2] and open auctex.info,
I see this at top of it:

  This is docWNch5x.info, produced by makeinfo version 6.8 from
  auctex.texi.

  This manual is for AUCTeX (version 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31 from
  2025-11-05_15:04:31), a sophisticated TeX environment for Emacs.

> preview-latex.texi:508: @include: could not find preview-dtxdoc.texi
> preview-latex.texi:441: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Provided commands'
> preview-latex.texi:460: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Package options'

The makefile has this as well[3]:

  doc/preview-dtxdoc.texi: latex/preview.dtx doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl
          $(PERL) doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl latex/preview.dtx $@

In the tarball above, preview-latex.info contains:

  6.1 The LaTeX style file
  ========================

  The main purpose of this package is the extraction of certain
  ...

which is the content of preview-dtxdoc.texi.  Am I missing something?

Best, Arash

Footnotes:
[1]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#n138
[2]  https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar
[3]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#n147

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Hi Arash, Philip,

I hope you won't mind me adding my 2=C2=A2. I rather hoped that, instead of
removing the :doc entry from the package spec, we could perhaps add a
note to auctex's README.GIT about setting the emacs variable
'package-vc-allow-build-commands' -- this would be all that was needed
on GNU/Linux.

On FreeBSD I got it to work using a small 'makefile' in the auctex
repo based on the one produced in the top level of the emacs repo by
autoconf when make isn't GNU make. You can see the starting point at
the end of configure.ac in the emacs repo, so it's just a matter of
setting MAKE to gmake on FreeBSD, and pointing it towards GNUmakefile,
which I guess works on other BSDs too (?). GNU make, if I understand
correctly, ignores a 'makefile' when it finds the GNUmakefile in the
auctex repo, so this wouldn't interfere with it, but I've no idea
about other platforms, so it may be a total non-starter.

Anyway, it would be nice to get this to work. I like package-vc very
much, and think it could bring a few extra eyes to the codebase.

Best, David.

On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 at 20:39, Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > It fails with the following error messages:
> >
> > auctex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
> > auctex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> > auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> > auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
> > auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> > auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
> > preview-latex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
> > preview-latex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> > preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> > preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
> > preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
> > preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>
> Thanks.  This is from AUCTeX makefile[1]:
>
>   doc/version.texi:
>           echo @set VERSION $(AUCTEXVERSION) >$@
>           echo @set UPDATED $(AUCTEXDATE) >>$@
>
> On my HD, I see this after running the make:
>
>   $ cat doc/version.texi
>   @set VERSION 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31
>   @set UPDATED 2025-11-05_15:04:31
>
> If I fetch auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar[2] and open auctex.info,
> I see this at top of it:
>
>   This is docWNch5x.info, produced by makeinfo version 6.8 from
>   auctex.texi.
>
>   This manual is for AUCTeX (version 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31 from
>   2025-11-05_15:04:31), a sophisticated TeX environment for Emacs.
>
> > preview-latex.texi:508: @include: could not find preview-dtxdoc.texi
> > preview-latex.texi:441: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Provided =
commands'
> > preview-latex.texi:460: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Package o=
ptions'
>
> The makefile has this as well[3]:
>
>   doc/preview-dtxdoc.texi: latex/preview.dtx doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl
>           $(PERL) doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl latex/preview.dtx $@
>
> In the tarball above, preview-latex.info contains:
>
>   6.1 The LaTeX style file
>   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>
>   The main purpose of this package is the extraction of certain
>   ...
>
> which is the content of preview-dtxdoc.texi.  Am I missing something?
>
> Best, Arash
>
> Footnotes:
> [1]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#n=
138
> [2]  https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar
> [3]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#n=
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David Fussner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi Arash, Philip,
>
> I hope you won't mind me adding my 2=C2=A2.=20

Of course not, that is the point of having a public mailing list :)

>                                        I rather hoped that, instead of
> removing the :doc entry from the package spec, we could perhaps add a
> note to auctex's README.GIT about setting the emacs variable
> 'package-vc-allow-build-commands' -- this would be all that was needed
> on GNU/Linux.

Yes, that would be my recommendation as well.

> On FreeBSD I got it to work using a small 'makefile' in the auctex
> repo based on the one produced in the top level of the emacs repo by
> autoconf when make isn't GNU make. You can see the starting point at
> the end of configure.ac in the emacs repo, so it's just a matter of
> setting MAKE to gmake on FreeBSD, and pointing it towards GNUmakefile,
> which I guess works on other BSDs too (?). GNU make, if I understand
> correctly, ignores a 'makefile' when it finds the GNUmakefile in the
> auctex repo, so this wouldn't interfere with it, but I've no idea
> about other platforms, so it may be a total non-starter.

Right, "(make)Makefile Names" says:

  By default, when =E2=80=98make=E2=80=99 looks for the makefile, it tries =
the following
  names, in order: =E2=80=98GNUmakefile=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98makefile=E2=80=
=99 and =E2=80=98Makefile=E2=80=99.

> Anyway, it would be nice to get this to work. I like package-vc very
> much, and think it could bring a few extra eyes to the codebase.

I just tried it out and adjusting `package-vc-allow-build-commands' does
seem to fix the issue for me.  So by "get this to work", you just mean
that AucTeX could mention the existence of that option in (auctex)
Installation?

> Best, David.
>
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 at 20:39, Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > It fails with the following error messages:
>> >
>> > auctex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
>> > auctex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>> > auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>> > preview-latex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
>> > preview-latex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>> > preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>>
>> Thanks.  This is from AUCTeX makefile[1]:
>>
>>   doc/version.texi:
>>           echo @set VERSION $(AUCTEXVERSION) >$@
>>           echo @set UPDATED $(AUCTEXDATE) >>$@
>>
>> On my HD, I see this after running the make:
>>
>>   $ cat doc/version.texi
>>   @set VERSION 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31
>>   @set UPDATED 2025-11-05_15:04:31
>>
>> If I fetch auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar[2] and open auctex.info,
>> I see this at top of it:
>>
>>   This is docWNch5x.info, produced by makeinfo version 6.8 from
>>   auctex.texi.
>>
>>   This manual is for AUCTeX (version 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31 from
>>   2025-11-05_15:04:31), a sophisticated TeX environment for Emacs.
>>
>> > preview-latex.texi:508: @include: could not find preview-dtxdoc.texi
>> > preview-latex.texi:441: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Provided=
 commands'
>> > preview-latex.texi:460: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Package =
options'
>>
>> The makefile has this as well[3]:
>>
>>   doc/preview-dtxdoc.texi: latex/preview.dtx doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl
>>           $(PERL) doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl latex/preview.dtx $@
>>
>> In the tarball above, preview-latex.info contains:
>>
>>   6.1 The LaTeX style file
>>   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>>
>>   The main purpose of this package is the extraction of certain
>>   ...
>>
>> which is the content of preview-dtxdoc.texi.  Am I missing something?
>>
>> Best, Arash
>>
>> Footnotes:
>> [1]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#=
n138
>> [2]  https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar
>> [3]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#=
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David Fussner via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi Arash, Philip,
>
> I hope you won't mind me adding my 2=C2=A2.=20

Of course not, that is the point of having a public mailing list :)

>                                        I rather hoped that, instead of
> removing the :doc entry from the package spec, we could perhaps add a
> note to auctex's README.GIT about setting the emacs variable
> 'package-vc-allow-build-commands' -- this would be all that was needed
> on GNU/Linux.

Yes, that would be my recommendation as well.

> On FreeBSD I got it to work using a small 'makefile' in the auctex
> repo based on the one produced in the top level of the emacs repo by
> autoconf when make isn't GNU make. You can see the starting point at
> the end of configure.ac in the emacs repo, so it's just a matter of
> setting MAKE to gmake on FreeBSD, and pointing it towards GNUmakefile,
> which I guess works on other BSDs too (?). GNU make, if I understand
> correctly, ignores a 'makefile' when it finds the GNUmakefile in the
> auctex repo, so this wouldn't interfere with it, but I've no idea
> about other platforms, so it may be a total non-starter.

Right, "(make)Makefile Names" says:

  By default, when =E2=80=98make=E2=80=99 looks for the makefile, it tries =
the following
  names, in order: =E2=80=98GNUmakefile=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98makefile=E2=80=
=99 and =E2=80=98Makefile=E2=80=99.

> Anyway, it would be nice to get this to work. I like package-vc very
> much, and think it could bring a few extra eyes to the codebase.

I just tried it out and adjusting `package-vc-allow-build-commands' does
seem to fix the issue for me.  So by "get this to work", you just mean
that AucTeX could mention the existence of that option in (auctex)
Installation?

> Best, David.
>
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 at 20:39, Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > It fails with the following error messages:
>> >
>> > auctex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
>> > auctex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > auctex.texi:16: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>> > auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > auctex.texi:49: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>> > preview-latex.texi:4: @include: could not find version.texi
>> > preview-latex.texi:5: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > preview-latex.texi:10: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>> > preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: VERSION
>> > preview-latex.texi:47: warning: undefined flag: UPDATED
>>
>> Thanks.  This is from AUCTeX makefile[1]:
>>
>>   doc/version.texi:
>>           echo @set VERSION $(AUCTEXVERSION) >$@
>>           echo @set UPDATED $(AUCTEXDATE) >>$@
>>
>> On my HD, I see this after running the make:
>>
>>   $ cat doc/version.texi
>>   @set VERSION 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31
>>   @set UPDATED 2025-11-05_15:04:31
>>
>> If I fetch auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar[2] and open auctex.info,
>> I see this at top of it:
>>
>>   This is docWNch5x.info, produced by makeinfo version 6.8 from
>>   auctex.texi.
>>
>>   This manual is for AUCTeX (version 14.1.0.2025-11-05_15:04:31 from
>>   2025-11-05_15:04:31), a sophisticated TeX environment for Emacs.
>>
>> > preview-latex.texi:508: @include: could not find preview-dtxdoc.texi
>> > preview-latex.texi:441: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Provided=
 commands'
>> > preview-latex.texi:460: @pxref reference to nonexistent node `Package =
options'
>>
>> The makefile has this as well[3]:
>>
>>   doc/preview-dtxdoc.texi: latex/preview.dtx doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl
>>           $(PERL) doc/preview-dtxdoc.pl latex/preview.dtx $@
>>
>> In the tarball above, preview-latex.info contains:
>>
>>   6.1 The LaTeX style file
>>   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
>>
>>   The main purpose of this package is the extraction of certain
>>   ...
>>
>> which is the content of preview-dtxdoc.texi.  Am I missing something?
>>
>> Best, Arash
>>
>> Footnotes:
>> [1]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#=
n138
>> [2]  https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/auctex-14.1.0.0.20251105.140431.tar
>> [3]  https://cgit.git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/auctex.git/tree/GNUmakefile#=
n147

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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:

> Right, "(make)Makefile Names" says:
>
>   By default, when =E2=80=98make=E2=80=99 looks for the makefile, it trie=
s the following
>   names, in order: =E2=80=98GNUmakefile=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98makefile=E2=80=
=99 and =E2=80=98Makefile=E2=80=99.

And this is from AUCTeX README.GIT:

  Run "make" in order to do that.  This will also generate the respective
  files for the preview subsystem.  Be sure to use GNU make, otherwise it
  will fail.

> I just tried it out and adjusting `package-vc-allow-build-commands' does
> seem to fix the issue for me.  So by "get this to work", you just mean
> that AucTeX could mention the existence of that option in (auctex)
> Installation?

I don't use `package-vc', so I'd be grateful if David could confirm that
the following change is sufficient to get AUCTeX installed with it:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
diff --git a/README.GIT b/README.GIT
index 4db9f1c2..60df85a7 100644
--- a/README.GIT
+++ b/README.GIT
@@ -32,3 +32,17 @@ will fail.

 You will need to have a working and rather current copy of `makeinfo'
 and `perl'.
+
+After the successful "make" run, you have to configure Emacs in order to
+run AUCTeX from your local Git repo.  The following forms in your init
+file should suffice:
+
+  (load "~/path/to/auctex/auctex-autoloads.el" nil t t)
+  (with-eval-after-load 'info
+    (add-to-list 'Info-additional-directory-list
+                 "~/path/to/auctex/doc"))
+
+If you're using the command `package-vc-install' to install AUCTeX, you
+can skip the forms above.  Just remember to have the following setting:
+
+  (setq package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Any comments welcome.  Best, Arash

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Hi Arash, Philip,

The change to README.GIT looks good to me. Those instructions should
suffice for GNU/Linux or any other development environment that is
using GNU make by default. For an environment that doesn't -- FreeBSD,
for example -- I'm not certain just how the instruction to use gmake
can be inserted into the package-vc flow. Even with gmake installed
(and the build-commands variable set) the documentation won't be
produced. My grasp on the BSDs and on Make is pretty tenuous. I see at
least three options:

1. A new user-facing variable in package-vc. So few ELPA packages will
need this I'm not sure it's worth the trouble, but I have no idea how
to do a survey of the repositories to find out how many there might be
besides AUCTeX.
2. A new 'makefile' in the AUCTeX repo, as attached below. It works
for me on FreeBSD, and should be ignored by GNU make entirely, but I
can't vouch for its harmlessness everywhere. I don't know whether GNU
make is always 'gmake' on such systems, either. The error message
could help out, I suppose.
3. Let BSD users use their own mechanisms -- you can get a perfectly
nice, regularly-updated AUCTeX git repo in FreeBSD Ports, for example.

Someone with more expertise will have better ideas, of course, and I'm
perfectly happy with whatever you decide.

Best, and sorry if I've dragged this out,

David.


On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 at 21:13, Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Right, "(make)Makefile Names" says:
> >
> >   By default, when =E2=80=98make=E2=80=99 looks for the makefile, it tr=
ies the following
> >   names, in order: =E2=80=98GNUmakefile=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98makefile=E2=
=80=99 and =E2=80=98Makefile=E2=80=99.
>
> And this is from AUCTeX README.GIT:
>
>   Run "make" in order to do that.  This will also generate the respective
>   files for the preview subsystem.  Be sure to use GNU make, otherwise it
>   will fail.
>
> > I just tried it out and adjusting `package-vc-allow-build-commands' doe=
s
> > seem to fix the issue for me.  So by "get this to work", you just mean
> > that AucTeX could mention the existence of that option in (auctex)
> > Installation?
>
> I don't use `package-vc', so I'd be grateful if David could confirm that
> the following change is sufficient to get AUCTeX installed with it:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> diff --git a/README.GIT b/README.GIT
> index 4db9f1c2..60df85a7 100644
> --- a/README.GIT
> +++ b/README.GIT
> @@ -32,3 +32,17 @@ will fail.
>
>  You will need to have a working and rather current copy of `makeinfo'
>  and `perl'.
> +
> +After the successful "make" run, you have to configure Emacs in order to
> +run AUCTeX from your local Git repo.  The following forms in your init
> +file should suffice:
> +
> +  (load "~/path/to/auctex/auctex-autoloads.el" nil t t)
> +  (with-eval-after-load 'info
> +    (add-to-list 'Info-additional-directory-list
> +                 "~/path/to/auctex/doc"))
> +
> +If you're using the command `package-vc-install' to install AUCTeX, you
> +can skip the forms above.  Just remember to have the following setting:
> +
> +  (setq package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Any comments welcome.  Best, Arash

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Hi David,

David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:

> The change to README.GIT looks good to me.

Thanks, I installed that part.

> For an environment that doesn't -- FreeBSD, for example -- I'm not
> certain just how the instruction to use gmake can be inserted into the
> package-vc flow. Even with gmake installed (and the build-commands
> variable set) the documentation won't be produced. My grasp on the
> BSDs and on Make is pretty tenuous.

I'm not on FreeBSD, so sorry if my comment is off: What happens when you
clone AUCTeX manually with:

  git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/auctex.git  

and run gmake in the cloned directory?  Do you get good results?  That
would at least show that the GNUmakefile works as intended on your
system and the question is, how to tell package-vc about it.

Best, Arash

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Hi Arash,

Yes, running gmake in the git repo works just fine on my FreeBSD system.

Best, David.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025, 13:29 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > The change to README.GIT looks good to me.
>
> Thanks, I installed that part.
>
> > For an environment that doesn't -- FreeBSD, for example -- I'm not
> > certain just how the instruction to use gmake can be inserted into the
> > package-vc flow. Even with gmake installed (and the build-commands
> > variable set) the documentation won't be produced. My grasp on the
> > BSDs and on Make is pretty tenuous.
>
> I'm not on FreeBSD, so sorry if my comment is off: What happens when you
> clone AUCTeX manually with:
>
>   git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/auctex.git
>
> and run gmake in the cloned directory?  Do you get good results?  That
> would at least show that the GNUmakefile works as intended on your
> system and the question is, how to tell package-vc about it.
>
> Best, Arash
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi=C2=A0Arash,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Yes, running gmake in the git repo works just=C2=A0fine on my FreeBSD sy=
stem.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best, David.=
=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div=
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<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
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<br>
David Fussner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dfussner@HIDDEN" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">dfussner@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; The change to README.GIT looks good to me.<br>
<br>
Thanks, I installed that part.<br>
<br>
&gt; For an environment that doesn&#39;t -- FreeBSD, for example -- I&#39;m=
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&gt; variable set) the documentation won&#39;t be produced. My grasp on the=
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&gt; BSDs and on Make is pretty tenuous.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not on FreeBSD, so sorry if my comment is off: What happens when yo=
u<br>
clone AUCTeX manually with:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 git clone <a href=3D"https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/auctex.git" re=
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and run gmake in the cloned directory?=C2=A0 Do you get good results?=C2=A0=
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David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:

> Yes, running gmake in the git repo works just fine on my FreeBSD
> system.

Thanks for testing and reporting back.  I only had a brief look at
package-vc.el.  Can you start Emacs the usual way, eval this in scratch
and then try to package-vc install AUCTeX?  Maybe the issue is that
"make" is hardwired in `package-vc--make'?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(progn
  (require 'package-vc)
  (setq package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
  (defun package-vc--make (pkg-spec pkg-desc)
    "Process :make and :shell-command in PKG-SPEC.
PKG-DESC is the package descriptor for the package that is being
prepared."
    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
          (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
      (when (or cmd target)
        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
          (erase-buffer)
          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil
                                             shell-command-switch cmd)))
            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
          (when (and target
                     ;; Changed "make" to "gmake":
                     (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "gmake" nil t nil
                                  (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target (buffer-name))))))))
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Hi Arash,

Yes, thank you, that works for me. Do we need a new variable here, or can
something be done on the AUCTeX side?

Best, David.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025, 15:43 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:

> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Yes, running gmake in the git repo works just fine on my FreeBSD
> > system.
>
> Thanks for testing and reporting back.  I only had a brief look at
> package-vc.el.  Can you start Emacs the usual way, eval this in scratch
> and then try to package-vc install AUCTeX?  Maybe the issue is that
> "make" is hardwired in `package-vc--make'?
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (progn
>   (require 'package-vc)
>   (setq package-vc-allow-build-commands '(auctex))
>   (defun package-vc--make (pkg-spec pkg-desc)
>     "Process :make and :shell-command in PKG-SPEC.
> PKG-DESC is the package descriptor for the package that is being
> prepared."
>     (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
>           (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
>           (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name
> pkg-desc))))
>       (when (or cmd target)
>         (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
>           (erase-buffer)
>           (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil
>                                              shell-command-switch cmd)))
>             (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
>           (when (and target
>                      ;; Changed "make" to "gmake":
>                      (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "gmake" nil t nil
>                                   (if (consp target) target (list
> target)))))
>             (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target
> (buffer-name))))))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Best, Arash
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi=C2=A0Arash,=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Yes, thank you, that works=C2=A0for me. Do we need a new variable=
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n Tue, 11 Nov 2025, 15:43 Arash Esbati, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arash@HIDDEN=
">arash@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Davi=
d Fussner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dfussner@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">dfussner@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; Yes, running gmake in the git repo works just fine on my FreeBSD<br>
&gt; system.<br>
<br>
Thanks for testing and reporting back.=C2=A0 I only had a brief look at<br>
package-vc.el.=C2=A0 Can you start Emacs the usual way, eval this in scratc=
h<br>
and then try to package-vc install AUCTeX?=C2=A0 Maybe the issue is that<br=
>
&quot;make&quot; is hardwired in `package-vc--make&#39;?<br>
<br>
--8&lt;---------------cut here---------------start-------------&gt;8---<br>
(progn<br>
=C2=A0 (require &#39;package-vc)<br>
=C2=A0 (setq package-vc-allow-build-commands &#39;(auctex))<br>
=C2=A0 (defun package-vc--make (pkg-spec pkg-desc)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &quot;Process :make and :shell-command in PKG-SPEC.<br>
PKG-DESC is the package descriptor for the package that is being<br>
prepared.&quot;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command)=
)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (buf (format &quot; *package-vc make %s*=
&quot; (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (or cmd target)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)<br=
>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (erase-buffer)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (and cmd (/=3D 0 (call-process she=
ll-file-name nil t nil<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0shell-command-switch cmd)))<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (warn &quot;Failed to run %s, see=
 buffer %S&quot; cmd (buffer-name)))<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (and target<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0;; Changed &quot;make&quot; to &quot;gmake&quot;:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
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st target)))))<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (warn &quot;Failed to make %s, se=
e buffer %S&quot; target (buffer-name))))))))<br>
--8&lt;---------------cut here---------------end---------------&gt;8---<br>
<br>
Best, Arash<br>
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David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:

> Yes, thank you, that works for me. Do we need a new variable here, or
> can something be done on the AUCTeX side?

Thanks David.  I think this has to be fixed in package-vc.  The same
scenario can appear easily with other packages.

So let's see what Philip thinks about it.

Best, Arash

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Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:

> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> Yes, thank you, that works for me. Do we need a new variable here, or
>> can something be done on the AUCTeX side?
>
> Thanks David.  I think this has to be fixed in package-vc.  The same
> scenario can appear easily with other packages.
>
> So let's see what Philip thinks about it.

While part of me would like it if all Makefiles in ELPA were
POSIX-compliant, I know that's a high standard (though to be fair, in
the last revision of POSIX a number of useful extensions have been
standardised).  So yes, it seems like it makes sense to have a user
option to adjust the "make" executable.  We should probably keep the
default value "make", or perhaps even

  (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))

considering that most packages target the ELPA build server which
naturally has GNU make installed.

David: Would you be interested in preparing the patch?  If not, no
problem, I'll try to get around to doing that at some point later this
week.

(Also: Thanks Arash to addressing the `add-to-list' thing I mentioned
earlier today in the AucTeX documentation!)

> Best, Arash

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Hi Philip, Arash,

Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.

Thanks, and

Best, David.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 at 21:00, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> Arash Esbati <arash@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
> >
> >> Yes, thank you, that works for me. Do we need a new variable here, or
> >> can something be done on the AUCTeX side?
> >
> > Thanks David.  I think this has to be fixed in package-vc.  The same
> > scenario can appear easily with other packages.
> >
> > So let's see what Philip thinks about it.
>
> While part of me would like it if all Makefiles in ELPA were
> POSIX-compliant, I know that's a high standard (though to be fair, in
> the last revision of POSIX a number of useful extensions have been
> standardised).  So yes, it seems like it makes sense to have a user
> option to adjust the "make" executable.  We should probably keep the
> default value "make", or perhaps even
>
>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
>
> considering that most packages target the ELPA build server which
> naturally has GNU make installed.
>
> David: Would you be interested in preparing the patch?  If not, no
> problem, I'll try to get around to doing that at some point later this
> week.
>
> (Also: Thanks Arash to addressing the `add-to-list' thing I mentioned
> earlier today in the AucTeX documentation!)
>
> > Best, Arash

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Hi David,

David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:

> Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
> to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.

Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.

> From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
> Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
>
> * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
>   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
  ^^

Superfluous spaces.

> (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
>   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
  ^^

Same here.

> ---
>  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
>          "\n")
>         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
>  
> +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil

Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.

Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with

  (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))

and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
without the check for makexe (see below).

> +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
> +
> +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
> +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
> +variable in order to build some VC packages."
> +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
> +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
> +  :version "31.1")
> +
>  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
>    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
>  
> @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
>  prepared."
>    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
>          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
> -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
> +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))
> +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
> +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
>      (when (or cmd target)
>        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
>          (erase-buffer)
>          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))
>            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
> -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
> +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))                 

  (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process package-vc-gnu-make nil t ...

and this part:

  (if (consp target) target (list target))

can become

  (ensure-list target)

I think.

>            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target (buffer-name)))))))
>  
>  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))

HTH.  Best, Arash

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Thanks Arash, I'll have another look. (Maybe Philip will have a few
comments as well.) I'll post a revised patch when I get the chance.

Best, David.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
> > to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.
>
> Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
> package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.
>
> > From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
> > Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
> >
> > * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
> >   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
>   ^^
>
> Superfluous spaces.
>
> > (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
> >   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
>   ^^
>
> Same here.
>
> > ---
> >  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> > index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> > @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
> >          "\n")
> >         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
> >
> > +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil
>
> Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
> program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.
>
> Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with
>
>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
>
> and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
> without the check for makexe (see below).
>
> > +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
> > +
> > +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
> > +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
> > +variable in order to build some VC packages."
> > +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
> > +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
> > +  :version "31.1")
> > +
> >  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
> >    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
> >
> > @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
> >  prepared."
> >    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
> >          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
> > -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name
> pkg-desc))))
> > +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name
> pkg-desc)))
> > +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
> > +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
> >      (when (or cmd target)
> >        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
> >          (erase-buffer)
> >          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil
> shell-command-switch cmd)))
> >            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
> > -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil
> (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
> > +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil
> (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>
>   (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process package-vc-gnu-make nil t
> ...
>
> and this part:
>
>   (if (consp target) target (list target))
>
> can become
>
>   (ensure-list target)
>
> I think.
>
> >            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target
> (buffer-name)))))))
> >
> >  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))
>
> HTH.  Best, Arash
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks=C2=A0Arash, I&#39;ll have another look. (Maybe Phi=
lip will have a few comments as well.) I&#39;ll post a revised patch when I=
 get the chance.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Best, D=
avid.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esb=
ati, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arash@HIDDEN">arash@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi David,<br>
<br>
David Fussner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dfussner@HIDDEN" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">dfussner@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; Would this do? I&#39;ve tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it see=
ms<br>
&gt; to work fine. That&#39;s a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.<=
br>
<br>
Thanks for working on this.=C2=A0 I have only minor comments, see below.=C2=
=A0 But<br>
package-vc isn&#39;t my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.<br>
<br>
&gt; From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001=
<br>
&gt; From: David Fussner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dfussner@HIDDEN" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dfussner@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000<br>
&gt; Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU &quot;make&quot; execu=
table<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic<=
br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0for finding the name of GNU &quot;make&quot; on the system=
.<br>
=C2=A0 ^^<br>
<br>
Superfluous spaces.<br>
<br>
&gt; (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the<=
br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0name of GNU &quot;make&quot; in case auto-detection doesn&=
#39;t work.<br>
=C2=A0 ^^<br>
<br>
Same here.<br>
<br>
&gt; ---<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-v=
c.el<br>
&gt; index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644<br>
&gt; --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el<br>
&gt; +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el<br>
&gt; @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 &quot;\n&quot;)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nil pkg-file nil &#39;silent))))<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil<br>
<br>
Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program&#39;?=C2=A0 I think the<br>
program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.<br>
<br>
Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 (seq-find #&#39;executable-find &#39;(&quot;gmake&quot; &quot;make&q=
uot;))<br>
<br>
and then change the type to string only?=C2=A0 So you could use directly<br=
>
without the check for makexe (see below).<br>
<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 &quot;Name of the GNU \&quot;make\&quot; executable on the sys=
tem.<br>
&gt; +<br>
&gt; +If the name of the GNU \&quot;make\&quot; executable on the current s=
ystem is<br>
&gt; +neither \&quot;make\&quot; nor \&quot;gmake\&quot; then you will need=
 to customize this<br>
&gt; +variable in order to build some VC packages.&quot;<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 :type &#39;(choice (const :tag &quot;Auto-detect&quot; nil)<br=
>
&gt; +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(string=
 :tag &quot;Name of GNU &#39;make&#39; on current system&quot;))<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 :version &quot;31.1&quot;)<br>
&gt; +<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &quot;Whether to run extra build commands when installing=
 VC packages.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt; @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 prepared.&quot;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-comm=
and))<br>
&gt; -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (buf (format &quot; *package-vc make %s*&=
quot; (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (buf (format &quot; *package-vc make %s*&=
quot; (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 (seq-find #&#39;executable-find &#39;(&quot;gmake&quot; &quot;make&quot;))=
)))<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (or cmd target)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf=
)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (erase-buffer)<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (and cmd (/=3D 0 (call-process=
 shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (warn &quot;Failed to run %s,=
 see buffer %S&quot; cmd (buffer-name)))<br>
&gt; -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (and target (/=3D 0 (apply #&#39;ca=
ll-process &quot;make&quot; nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list targe=
t)))))<br>
&gt; +=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when (and target (/=3D 0 (apply #&#39;ca=
ll-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 (when (and target (/=3D 0 (apply #&#39;call-process package-vc-gnu-m=
ake nil t ...<br>
<br>
and this part:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 (if (consp target) target (list target))<br>
<br>
can become<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 (ensure-list target)<br>
<br>
I think.<br>
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (warn &quot;Failed to make %s=
, see buffer %S&quot; target (buffer-name)))))))<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 (declare-function org-export-to-file &quot;ox&quot; (backend fil=
e))<br>
<br>
HTH.=C2=A0 Best, Arash<br>
</blockquote></div>

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Hi Arash,

Here's a new patch, which I think addresses all of your comments.
Tested, as before, on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Let me know if I've
missed anything. We'll see what Philip thinks.

Thanks again,

David.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 17:14, David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> Thanks Arash, I'll have another look. (Maybe Philip will have a few comments as well.) I'll post a revised patch when I get the chance.
>
> Best, David.
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
>> > to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.
>>
>> Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
>> package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.
>>
>> > From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> > From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
>> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
>> > Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
>> >
>> > * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
>> >   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
>>   ^^
>>
>> Superfluous spaces.
>>
>> > (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
>> >   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
>>   ^^
>>
>> Same here.
>>
>> > ---
>> >  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
>> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>> > index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
>> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>> > @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
>> >          "\n")
>> >         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
>> >
>> > +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil
>>
>> Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
>> program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.
>>
>> Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with
>>
>>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
>>
>> and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
>> without the check for makexe (see below).
>>
>> > +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
>> > +
>> > +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
>> > +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
>> > +variable in order to build some VC packages."
>> > +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
>> > +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
>> > +  :version "31.1")
>> > +
>> >  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
>> >    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
>> >
>> > @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
>> >  prepared."
>> >    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
>> >          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
>> > -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
>> > +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))
>> > +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
>> > +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
>> >      (when (or cmd target)
>> >        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
>> >          (erase-buffer)
>> >          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))
>> >            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
>> > -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>> > +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>>
>>   (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process package-vc-gnu-make nil t ...
>>
>> and this part:
>>
>>   (if (consp target) target (list target))
>>
>> can become
>>
>>   (ensure-list target)
>>
>> I think.
>>
>> >            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target (buffer-name)))))))
>> >
>> >  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))
>>
>> HTH.  Best, Arash

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David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi Arash,
>
> Here's a new patch, which I think addresses all of your comments.
> Tested, as before, on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Let me know if I've
> missed anything. We'll see what Philip thinks.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> David.
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 17:14, David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Arash, I'll have another look. (Maybe Philip will have a few comments as well.) I'll post a revised patch when I get the chance.
>>
>> Best, David.
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>>>
>>> > Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
>>> > to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
>>> package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.
>>>
>>> > From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>>> > From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
>>> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
>>> > Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
>>> >
>>> > * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
>>> >   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
>>>   ^^
>>>
>>> Superfluous spaces.
>>>
>>> > (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
>>> >   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
>>>   ^^
>>>
>>> Same here.
>>>
>>> > ---
>>> >  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
>>> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>> >
>>> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>>> > index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
>>> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>>> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>>> > @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
>>> >          "\n")
>>> >         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
>>> >
>>> > +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil
>>>
>>> Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
>>> program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.

I wanted to comment that -executable is also used, but I can actually
only find a single instance of that in Emacs itself.  ELPA also has a
lot more user options ending in -program (94) than -executable (20), so
this should be fine.

>>> Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with
>>>
>>>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
>>>
>>> and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
>>> without the check for makexe (see below).

The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
will detect the more appropriate executable.

>>> > +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
>>> > +
>>> > +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
>>> > +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
>>> > +variable in order to build some VC packages."
>>> > +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
>>> > +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
>>> > +  :version "31.1")
>>> > +
>>> >  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
>>> >    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
>>> >
>>> > @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
>>> >  prepared."
>>> >    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
>>> >          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
>>> > -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
>>> > +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))
>>> > +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
>>> > +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
>>> >      (when (or cmd target)
>>> >        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
>>> >          (erase-buffer)
>>> >          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))
>>> >            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
>>> > -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>>> > +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>>>
>>>   (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process package-vc-gnu-make nil t ...
>>>
>>> and this part:
>>>
>>>   (if (consp target) target (list target))
>>>
>>> can become
>>>
>>>   (ensure-list target)
>>>
>>> I think.

This is true, but it is not /really/ related to this patch.  I'll leave
it up to David to decide he we wants to spilt the change up into two
commits or not.

>>> >            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target (buffer-name)))))))
>>> >
>>> >  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))
>>>
>>> HTH.  Best, Arash

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Hi Philip,

Thanks for the comments.

>
> The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
> installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
> will detect the more appropriate executable.
>

I hadn't thought of this, and though it's a corner case it weighs in
favor of my first patch (appropriately cleaned up). Are you (and
Arash) OK with that?

David.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 19:48, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Hi Arash,
> >
> > Here's a new patch, which I think addresses all of your comments.
> > Tested, as before, on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Let me know if I've
> > missed anything. We'll see what Philip thinks.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > David.
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 17:14, David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Arash, I'll have another look. (Maybe Philip will have a few comments as well.) I'll post a revised patch when I get the chance.
> >>
> >> Best, David.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
> >>>
> >>> > Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
> >>> > to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
> >>> package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.
> >>>
> >>> > From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >>> > From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
> >>> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
> >>> > Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
> >>> >
> >>> > * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
> >>> >   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
> >>>   ^^
> >>>
> >>> Superfluous spaces.
> >>>
> >>> > (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
> >>> >   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
> >>>   ^^
> >>>
> >>> Same here.
> >>>
> >>> > ---
> >>> >  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
> >>> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>> >
> >>> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> >>> > index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
> >>> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> >>> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> >>> > @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
> >>> >          "\n")
> >>> >         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
> >>> >
> >>> > +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil
> >>>
> >>> Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
> >>> program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.
>
> I wanted to comment that -executable is also used, but I can actually
> only find a single instance of that in Emacs itself.  ELPA also has a
> lot more user options ending in -program (94) than -executable (20), so
> this should be fine.
>
> >>> Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with
> >>>
> >>>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
> >>>
> >>> and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
> >>> without the check for makexe (see below).
>
> The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
> installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
> will detect the more appropriate executable.
>
> >>> > +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
> >>> > +
> >>> > +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
> >>> > +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
> >>> > +variable in order to build some VC packages."
> >>> > +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
> >>> > +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
> >>> > +  :version "31.1")
> >>> > +
> >>> >  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
> >>> >    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
> >>> >
> >>> > @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
> >>> >  prepared."
> >>> >    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
> >>> >          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
> >>> > -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
> >>> > +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))
> >>> > +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
> >>> > +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
> >>> >      (when (or cmd target)
> >>> >        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
> >>> >          (erase-buffer)
> >>> >          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))
> >>> >            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
> >>> > -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
> >>> > +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
> >>>
> >>>   (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process package-vc-gnu-make nil t ...
> >>>
> >>> and this part:
> >>>
> >>>   (if (consp target) target (list target))
> >>>
> >>> can become
> >>>
> >>>   (ensure-list target)
> >>>
> >>> I think.
>
> This is true, but it is not /really/ related to this patch.  I'll leave
> it up to David to decide he we wants to spilt the change up into two
> commits or not.
>
> >>> >            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target (buffer-name)))))))
> >>> >
> >>> >  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))
> >>>
> >>> HTH.  Best, Arash

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David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:

> Hi Philip,
>
> Thanks for the comments.
>
>>
>> The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
>> installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
>> will detect the more appropriate executable.
>>
>
> I hadn't thought of this, and though it's a corner case it weighs in
> favor of my first patch (appropriately cleaned up). Are you (and
> Arash) OK with that?

No objections from my side :)

> David.
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 19:48, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>>
>> > Hi Arash,
>> >
>> > Here's a new patch, which I think addresses all of your comments.
>> > Tested, as before, on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Let me know if I've
>> > missed anything. We'll see what Philip thinks.
>> >
>> > Thanks again,
>> >
>> > David.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 17:14, David Fussner
>> > <dfussner@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Arash, I'll have another look. (Maybe Philip will have a
>> >> few comments as well.) I'll post a revised patch when I get the
>> >> chance.
>> >>
>> >> Best, David.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi David,
>> >>>
>> >>> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
>> >>> > to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
>> >>> package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.
>> >>>
>> >>> > From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> >>> > From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
>> >>> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
>> >>> > Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
>> >>> >
>> >>> > * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
>> >>> >   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
>> >>>   ^^
>> >>>
>> >>> Superfluous spaces.
>> >>>
>> >>> > (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
>> >>> >   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
>> >>>   ^^
>> >>>
>> >>> Same here.
>> >>>
>> >>> > ---
>> >>> >  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
>> >>> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>> >>> > index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
>> >>> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>> >>> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
>> >>> > @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
>> >>> >          "\n")
>> >>> >         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
>> >>> >
>> >>> > +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
>> >>> program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.
>>
>> I wanted to comment that -executable is also used, but I can actually
>> only find a single instance of that in Emacs itself.  ELPA also has a
>> lot more user options ending in -program (94) than -executable (20), so
>> this should be fine.
>>
>> >>> Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with
>> >>>
>> >>>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
>> >>>
>> >>> and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
>> >>> without the check for makexe (see below).
>>
>> The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
>> installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
>> will detect the more appropriate executable.
>>
>> >>> > +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
>> >>> > +
>> >>> > +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
>> >>> > +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
>> >>> > +variable in order to build some VC packages."
>> >>> > +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
>> >>> > +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
>> >>> > +  :version "31.1")
>> >>> > +
>> >>> >  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
>> >>> >    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
>> >>> >  prepared."
>> >>> >    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
>> >>> >          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
>> >>> > -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
>> >>> > +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))
>> >>> > +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
>> >>> > +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
>> >>> >      (when (or cmd target)
>> >>> >        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
>> >>> >          (erase-buffer)
>> >>> >          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))
>> >>> >            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
>> >>> > -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>> >>> > +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
>> >>>
>> >>>   (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process
>> >>> package-vc-gnu-make nil t ...
>> >>>
>> >>> and this part:
>> >>>
>> >>>   (if (consp target) target (list target))
>> >>>
>> >>> can become
>> >>>
>> >>>   (ensure-list target)
>> >>>
>> >>> I think.
>>
>> This is true, but it is not /really/ related to this patch.  I'll leave
>> it up to David to decide he we wants to spilt the change up into two
>> commits or not.
>>
>> >>> >            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target
>> >>> > (buffer-name)))))))
>> >>> >
>> >>> >  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))
>> >>>
>> >>> HTH.  Best, Arash

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Thanks Philip. Attached is a new patch, tested here as usual on
GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Comments welcome.

Best, David.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 20:58, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Hi Philip,
> >
> > Thanks for the comments.
> >
> >>
> >> The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
> >> installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
> >> will detect the more appropriate executable.
> >>
> >
> > I hadn't thought of this, and though it's a corner case it weighs in
> > favor of my first patch (appropriately cleaned up). Are you (and
> > Arash) OK with that?
>
> No objections from my side :)
>
> > David.
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 19:48, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >>
> >> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
> >>
> >> > Hi Arash,
> >> >
> >> > Here's a new patch, which I think addresses all of your comments.
> >> > Tested, as before, on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Let me know if I've
> >> > missed anything. We'll see what Philip thinks.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again,
> >> >
> >> > David.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 at 17:14, David Fussner
> >> > <dfussner@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks Arash, I'll have another look. (Maybe Philip will have a
> >> >> few comments as well.) I'll post a revised patch when I get the
> >> >> chance.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best, David.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 12 Nov 2025, 14:47 Arash Esbati, <arash@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi David,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN> writes:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Would this do? I've tested it on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, and it seems
> >> >>> > to work fine. That's a small sample, I know, so comments welcome.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks for working on this.  I have only minor comments, see below.  But
> >> >>> package-vc isn't my home turf, so please feel free to ignore.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > From 576ca54e611bd2864c35078be7f01ae72afe30ee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >> >>> > From: David Fussner <dfussner@HIDDEN>
> >> >>> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 11:05:06 +0000
> >> >>> > Subject: [PATCH] Fix package-vc to find the GNU "make" executable
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > * lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el (package-vc--make): Improve heuristic
> >> >>> >   for finding the name of GNU "make" on the system.
> >> >>>   ^^
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Superfluous spaces.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > (package-vc-gnu-make): New defcustom to allow the user to specify the
> >> >>> >   name of GNU "make" in case auto-detection doesn't work.
> >> >>>   ^^
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Same here.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > ---
> >> >>> >  lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el | 16 ++++++++++++++--
> >> >>> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> >> >>> > index 6642522d11e..cff3ebff5b1 100644
> >> >>> > --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> >> >>> > +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/package-vc.el
> >> >>> > @@ -321,6 +321,16 @@ package-vc--generate-description-file
> >> >>> >          "\n")
> >> >>> >         nil pkg-file nil 'silent))))
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > +(defcustom package-vc-gnu-make nil
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Maybe rename this to `package-vc-make-program'?  I think the
> >> >>> program-thingie is used widely in Emacs.
> >>
> >> I wanted to comment that -executable is also used, but I can actually
> >> only find a single instance of that in Emacs itself.  ELPA also has a
> >> lot more user options ending in -program (94) than -executable (20), so
> >> this should be fine.
> >>
> >> >>> Would it make sense to initialize the new variable with
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make"))
> >> >>>
> >> >>> and then change the type to string only?  So you could use directly
> >> >>> without the check for makexe (see below).
> >>
> >> The main advantage to David's initial proposal is that if the user
> >> installs GNU make after the feature has been loaded, that the function
> >> will detect the more appropriate executable.
> >>
> >> >>> > +  "Name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the system.
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> > +If the name of the GNU \"make\" executable on the current system is
> >> >>> > +neither \"make\" nor \"gmake\" then you will need to customize this
> >> >>> > +variable in order to build some VC packages."
> >> >>> > +  :type '(choice (const :tag "Auto-detect" nil)
> >> >>> > +                 (string :tag "Name of GNU 'make' on current system"))
> >> >>> > +  :version "31.1")
> >> >>> > +
> >> >>> >  (defcustom package-vc-allow-build-commands nil
> >> >>> >    "Whether to run extra build commands when installing VC packages.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > @@ -353,13 +363,15 @@ package-vc--make
> >> >>> >  prepared."
> >> >>> >    (let ((target (plist-get pkg-spec :make))
> >> >>> >          (cmd (plist-get pkg-spec :shell-command))
> >> >>> > -        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc))))
> >> >>> > +        (buf (format " *package-vc make %s*" (package-desc-name pkg-desc)))
> >> >>> > +        (makexe (or package-vc-gnu-make
> >> >>> > +                    (seq-find #'executable-find '("gmake" "make")))))
> >> >>> >      (when (or cmd target)
> >> >>> >        (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create buf)
> >> >>> >          (erase-buffer)
> >> >>> >          (when (and cmd (/= 0 (call-process shell-file-name nil t nil shell-command-switch cmd)))
> >> >>> >            (warn "Failed to run %s, see buffer %S" cmd (buffer-name)))
> >> >>> > -        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process "make" nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
> >> >>> > +        (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process makexe nil t nil (if (consp target) target (list target)))))
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   (when (and target (/= 0 (apply #'call-process
> >> >>> package-vc-gnu-make nil t ...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> and this part:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   (if (consp target) target (list target))
> >> >>>
> >> >>> can become
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   (ensure-list target)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think.
> >>
> >> This is true, but it is not /really/ related to this patch.  I'll leave
> >> it up to David to decide he we wants to spilt the change up into two
> >> commits or not.
> >>
> >> >>> >            (warn "Failed to make %s, see buffer %S" target
> >> >>> > (buffer-name)))))))
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >  (declare-function org-export-to-file "ox" (backend file))
> >> >>>
> >> >>> HTH.  Best, Arash

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> Thanks Philip. Attached is a new patch, tested here as usual on
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Philip, is anything missing in order to install the change proposed by
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Best, Arash

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