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merge 79822 79821
thanks
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 16:13:56 +0530 (IST)
> From: Madhu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
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>
> On current master, on a fresh checkout to /dev/shm/emacs, after autoreconf:
> cd /dev/shm/emacs
>
> autoreconf -fi
> mkdir build-nox
> cd build-nox
> ../configure
> make
>
>
> ```
> make[4]: Leaving directory '/dev/shm/emacs/build-nox/admin/grammars'
> '../src/bootstrap-emacs' -batch --no-site-file --no-site-lisp \
> -l ../../lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.elc \
> -f loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch ../../lisp ../../lisp/calc ../../lisp/calendar ../../lisp/cedet ../../lisp/cedet/ede ../../lisp/cedet/semantic ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/analyze ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/bovine ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/decorate ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/symref ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/wisent ../../lisp/cedet/srecode ../../lisp/emacs-lisp ../../lisp/emulation ../../lisp/erc ../../lisp/eshell ../../lisp/gnus ../../lisp/image ../../lisp/international ../../lisp/language ../../lisp/leim ../../lisp/leim/quail ../../lisp/mail ../../lisp/mh-e ../../lisp/net ../../lisp/nxml ../../lisp/org ../../lisp/play ../../lisp/progmodes ../../lisp/textmodes ../../lisp/url ../../lisp/use-package ../../lisp/vc
>
> Error: file-missing ("Opening directory" "No such file or directory" "/dev/shm/lisp")
> ```
This is a duplicate of bug#79821, so I'm merging them.
Stefan, could you please look into this?
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I tried a patch madhu posted here
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2025-11/msg00721.html
but it didn't help. I attach one that allows building to proceed here.
martin
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> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 09:55:42 +0100
> From: martin rudalics via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>
> I tried a patch madhu posted here
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2025-11/msg00721.html
>
> but it didn't help. I attach one that allows building to proceed here.
Thanks.
Stefan, are you reading this?
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
> index fcec04115e4..21093b68537 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
> @@ -789,21 +789,20 @@ loaddefs-generate--excluded-files
> ;; Exclude those files that are preloaded on ALL platforms.
> ;; These are the ones in loadup.el where "(load" is at the start
> ;; of the line (crude, but it works).
> - (unless (equal default-directory (file-name-as-directory lisp-directory))
> - (error "PWD is not set as expected: %S" default-directory))
> - (let ((excludes nil))
> + (let ((default-directory (file-name-directory lisp-directory))
> + (excludes nil)
> + file)
> (with-temp-buffer
> (insert-file-contents "loadup.el")
> (when (= (point-min) (point-max)) (error "Can't find loadup.el"))
> (while (re-search-forward "^(load \"\\([^\"]+\\)\"" nil t)
> - (let ((file (match-string 1)))
> - (unless (string-match "\\`site-" file)
> - (push (if (string-match "\\.el\\'" file)
> - file
> - (format "%s.el" file))
> - excludes)))))
> + (setq file (match-string 1))
> + (or (string-match "\\.el\\'" file)
> + (setq file (format "%s.el" file)))
> + (or (string-match "\\`site-" file)
> + (push (expand-file-name file) excludes))))
> ;; Don't scan ldefs-boot.el, either.
> - (cons "ldefs-boot.el" excludes)))
> + (cons (expand-file-name "ldefs-boot.el") excludes)))
>
> ;;;###autoload
> (defun loaddefs-generate-batch ()
> @@ -821,12 +820,8 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
> "Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
> This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
> rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
> - (let* ((args command-line-args-left)
> - ;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
> - ;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
> - ;; so go there and don't look back.
> - (default-directory lisp-directory)
> - (output-file (expand-file-name "loaddefs.el")))
> + (let ((args command-line-args-left)
> + (output-file (expand-file-name "loaddefs.el" lisp-directory)))
> (setq command-line-args-left nil)
> (loaddefs-generate
> args output-file
> @@ -836,12 +831,12 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
> ;; updated.
> (file-newer-than-file-p
> (expand-file-name "emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el" lisp-directory)
> - output-file))
> - (let ((lisp-mode-autoload-regexp
> - "^;;;###\\(\\(noexist\\)-\\)?\\(theme-autoload\\)"))
> + output-file)))
> + (let ((lisp-mode-autoload-regexp
> + "^;;;###\\(\\(noexist\\)-\\)?\\(theme-autoload\\)"))
> (loaddefs-generate
> - (expand-file-name "../etc/themes/")
> - (expand-file-name "theme-loaddefs.el")))))
> + (expand-file-name "../etc/themes/" lisp-directory)
> + (expand-file-name "theme-loaddefs.el" lisp-directory))))
>
> ;;;###autoload (load "theme-loaddefs.el" t)
>
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I have pushed the patch below to `master` which I believe fixes the
problem at its root.
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
index fcec04115e4..44f370bdff9 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -821,7 +821,7 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
- (let* ((args command-line-args-left)
+ (let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
;; so go there and don't look back.
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* Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> <jwv7bvu6p58.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN>
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> I have pushed the patch below to `master` which I believe fixes the
> problem at its root.
>
> diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
> index fcec04115e4..44f370bdff9 100644
> --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
> +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
> @@ -821,7 +821,7 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
> "Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
> This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
> rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
> - (let* ((args command-line-args-left)
> + (let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
> ;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
> ;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
> ;; so go there and don't look back.
This fixes the make -C emacs/build scenario but doesn't fix the
symlink case I outlined above [where i run configure in say ~/emacs
which is a symlink to say /tmp/emacs.] The fixup may still be
necessary. ---Madhu
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> This fixes the make -C emacs/build scenario but doesn't fix the
> symlink case I outlined above [where i run configure in say ~/emacs
> which is a symlink to say /tmp/emacs.] The fixup may still be
> necessary. ---Madhu
Hmm... I tried
ln -s .../emacs ~/tmp/
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git clean -fdx
cp .../configure ./
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make
and that worked fine for me (even though the output (and a grep through
the generated files) shows a godawful mix of `~/tmp/emacs` and `.../emacs`).
I thought the above was the recipe that caused problems, but apparently
I'm missing something in that recipe.
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> Hmm... I tried
> ln -s .../emacs ~/tmp/
> cd ~/tmp/emacs
> git clean -fdx
I don't understand the following steps. I never thought of copying
confiure files --
> cp .../configure ./
> cp .../src/config.in src/
> ./configure
The recipe i indicated had these steps instead:
cd ~/tmp/emacs
# realpath . ==> (/path/to/emacs)
git clean -fxd
autoreconf -fi
./configure
make
`make' then cd's to the the build directory in ...emacs the rest of
the diagnosis is in my earlier mail.
[The use case for this recipe is this:
keep huge builds in /var/tmp/STORAGE/extern/emacs-*
and refer to them under my limited quota'd home directory
ln -sv /var/tmp/STORAGE ~/scratch
my scripts unifromly access ~/scratch/extern/emacs/src/emacs
]
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> I have pushed the patch below to `master` which I believe fixes the
> problem at its root.
Works here.
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>> Hmm... I tried
>> ln -s .../emacs ~/tmp/
>> cd ~/tmp/emacs
>> git clean -fdx
>
> I don't understand the following steps. I never thought of copying
> confiure files --
>> cp .../configure ./
>> cp .../src/config.in src/
>> ./configure
Rather than try and remember how to run things like autoreconf, I just
"do what I usually" do (e.g. run "./configure") and fix the immediate
errors I get (first the lack of `configure` and then the lack of
`src/config.in`), which I fixed by copying those files from another
build tree I had nearby.
> The recipe i indicated had these steps instead:
>
> cd ~/tmp/emacs
> # realpath . =3D=3D> (/path/to/emacs)
> git clean -fxd
> autoreconf -fi
> ./configure
> make
Hmm... just tried the following:
ln -s .../emacs/tmp ~/tmp/emacs
cd ~/tmp/emacs
git clean -fdx
autoreconf -fi
./configure
make -j4
But couldn't reproduce your failure. =F0=9F=99=81
Looks like it depends on some other detail somewhere.
So for now we're stuck with remote debugging (see below).
> [The use case for this recipe is this:
Been there done that. =F0=9F=99=82
Could you apply the patch below and then do
rm lisp/loaddefs.el; make V=3D1
and show the corresponding output?
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen=
.el
index 44f370bdff9..287ac541991 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -662,6 +662,8 @@ loaddefs-generate
(file-attributes file))))
;; If we're scanning for package versions, we want to look
;; at the file even if it's excluded.
+ (when (string-match "paren" file)
+ (message "FILE=3D%S EXCLUDED-FILES=3D%S" file excluded-files))
(let* ((excluded
;; FIXME: In out-of-tree builds (bug#79694) `excluded-fi=
les'
;; (derived via `lisp-directory' from `invocation-direct=
ory')
@@ -821,6 +823,8 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
+ (message "DEFAULT-DIRECTORY=3D%S LISP-DIRECTORY=3D%S ARGS=3D%S"
+ default-directory lisp-directory command-line-args-left)
(let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
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* Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> <jwvh5uw4qx0.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN>
Wrote on Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:12:46 -0500
Mea Culpa. I was building in a subdirectory of ~/tmp/emacs
ln -s .../emacs/ ~/tmp/emacs
> cd ~/tmp/emacs
> git clean -fdx
> autoreconf -fi
mkdir build
cd build
../configure --without-all --without-x
> make -j4
> Could you apply the patch below and then do
> rm lisp/loaddefs.el; make V=1
> and show the corresponding output?
when runing make in the ~/tmp/emacs/build directory i get
```
Loading theme-loaddefs.el (source)...
debug-early-backtrace...done
Attempt to autoload show-paren-mode while preparing to dump
Error: error ("Attempt to autoload show-paren-mode while preparing to dump")
show-paren-mode(1)
```
and earlier:
```
DEFAULT-DIRECTORY="/var/tmp/emacs/build/lisp/" LISP-DIRECTORY="~/tmp/emacs/lisp/" ARGS=("../../lisp" ...
FILE="/var/tmp/emacs/lisp/paren.el" EXCLUDED-FILES=("~/tmp/emacs/lisp/ldefs-boot.el ...
```
(note in these lines it outputs an absolute path, i edited it to "~/")
Applying the "fixup" patch I attached above fixes the build for this
scenario
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> Mea Culpa. I was building in a subdirectory of ~/tmp/emacs
>
> ln -s .../emacs/ ~/tmp/emacs
>> cd ~/tmp/emacs
>> git clean -fdx
>> autoreconf -fi
> mkdir build
> cd build
> ../configure --without-all --without-x
>> make -j4
Ah, now I can reproduce it here, thanks.
> ```
> DEFAULT-DIRECTORY="/var/tmp/emacs/build/lisp/"
> LISP-DIRECTORY="~/tmp/emacs/lisp/" ARGS=("../../lisp" ...
> FILE="/var/tmp/emacs/lisp/paren.el" EXCLUDED-FILES=("~/tmp/emacs/lisp/ldefs-boot.el ...
> ```
Maybe the "better" fix would be to change `lisp/Makefile.in` so that it
sets `SUBDIRS` to a list of file names relative the the lisp-directory,
but that would require several other changes elsewhere.
So I think a safer fix is to reconsider the fix for bug#79694 (and
bug#62099, bug#64806), where I opted to favor the "non-true" names,
and instead go with the true names.
So I suggest the patch below (which fixes the above build case, in my test).
Stephen and Andy, could you confirm that the patch below doesn't
reintroduce the problem we just fixed?
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
index 44f370bdff9..880f6da1e17 100644
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+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -662,15 +662,7 @@ loaddefs-generate
(file-attributes file))))
;; If we're scanning for package versions, we want to look
;; at the file even if it's excluded.
- (let* ((excluded
- ;; FIXME: In out-of-tree builds (bug#79694) `excluded-files'
- ;; (derived via `lisp-directory' from `invocation-directory')
- ;; may end up using names which don't quite match those of
- ;; `file' (derived from the command line arguments), w.r.t.
- ;; "c:/" vs "C:/" on MS-Windows, so use a test more lax
- ;; than `member'.
- (let ((x (member-ignore-case file excluded-files)))
- (and x (file-equal-p file (car x)))))
+ (let* ((excluded (member file excluded-files))
(package-data
(and include-package-version (if excluded 'only t))))
(when (or package-data (not excluded))
@@ -821,7 +813,7 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
- (let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
+ (let* ((args (mapcar #'file-truename command-line-args-left))
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
;; so go there and don't look back.
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index aab8fcfe9f2..836ead6deb0 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -1237,7 +1237,8 @@ command-line
(unless (file-readable-p lispdir)
(princ (format "Lisp directory %s not readable?" lispdir))
(terpri)))
- (setq lisp-directory (file-name-directory simple-file-name))
+ (setq lisp-directory
+ (file-truename (file-name-directory simple-file-name)))
(setq load-history
(mapcar (lambda (elt)
(if (and (stringp (car elt))
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