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> Mea Culpa. I was building in a subdirectory of ~/tmp/emacs
>
> ln -s .../emacs/ ~/tmp/emacs
>> cd ~/tmp/emacs
>> git clean -fdx
>> autoreconf -fi
> mkdir build
> cd build
> ../configure --without-all --without-x
>> make -j4
Ah, now I can reproduce it here, thanks.
> ```
> DEFAULT-DIRECTORY="/var/tmp/emacs/build/lisp/"
> LISP-DIRECTORY="~/tmp/emacs/lisp/" ARGS=("../../lisp" ...
> FILE="/var/tmp/emacs/lisp/paren.el" EXCLUDED-FILES=("~/tmp/emacs/lisp/ldefs-boot.el ...
> ```
Maybe the "better" fix would be to change `lisp/Makefile.in` so that it
sets `SUBDIRS` to a list of file names relative the the lisp-directory,
but that would require several other changes elsewhere.
So I think a safer fix is to reconsider the fix for bug#79694 (and
bug#62099, bug#64806), where I opted to favor the "non-true" names,
and instead go with the true names.
So I suggest the patch below (which fixes the above build case, in my test).
Stephen and Andy, could you confirm that the patch below doesn't
reintroduce the problem we just fixed?
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
index 44f370bdff9..880f6da1e17 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -662,15 +662,7 @@ loaddefs-generate
(file-attributes file))))
;; If we're scanning for package versions, we want to look
;; at the file even if it's excluded.
- (let* ((excluded
- ;; FIXME: In out-of-tree builds (bug#79694) `excluded-files'
- ;; (derived via `lisp-directory' from `invocation-directory')
- ;; may end up using names which don't quite match those of
- ;; `file' (derived from the command line arguments), w.r.t.
- ;; "c:/" vs "C:/" on MS-Windows, so use a test more lax
- ;; than `member'.
- (let ((x (member-ignore-case file excluded-files)))
- (and x (file-equal-p file (car x)))))
+ (let* ((excluded (member file excluded-files))
(package-data
(and include-package-version (if excluded 'only t))))
(when (or package-data (not excluded))
@@ -821,7 +813,7 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
- (let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
+ (let* ((args (mapcar #'file-truename command-line-args-left))
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
;; so go there and don't look back.
diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index aab8fcfe9f2..836ead6deb0 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -1237,7 +1237,8 @@ command-line
(unless (file-readable-p lispdir)
(princ (format "Lisp directory %s not readable?" lispdir))
(terpri)))
- (setq lisp-directory (file-name-directory simple-file-name))
+ (setq lisp-directory
+ (file-truename (file-name-directory simple-file-name)))
(setq load-history
(mapcar (lambda (elt)
(if (and (stringp (car elt))
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* Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> <jwvh5uw4qx0.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN>
Wrote on Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:12:46 -0500
Mea Culpa. I was building in a subdirectory of ~/tmp/emacs
ln -s .../emacs/ ~/tmp/emacs
> cd ~/tmp/emacs
> git clean -fdx
> autoreconf -fi
mkdir build
cd build
../configure --without-all --without-x
> make -j4
> Could you apply the patch below and then do
> rm lisp/loaddefs.el; make V=1
> and show the corresponding output?
when runing make in the ~/tmp/emacs/build directory i get
```
Loading theme-loaddefs.el (source)...
debug-early-backtrace...done
Attempt to autoload show-paren-mode while preparing to dump
Error: error ("Attempt to autoload show-paren-mode while preparing to dump")
show-paren-mode(1)
```
and earlier:
```
DEFAULT-DIRECTORY="/var/tmp/emacs/build/lisp/" LISP-DIRECTORY="~/tmp/emacs/lisp/" ARGS=("../../lisp" ...
FILE="/var/tmp/emacs/lisp/paren.el" EXCLUDED-FILES=("~/tmp/emacs/lisp/ldefs-boot.el ...
```
(note in these lines it outputs an absolute path, i edited it to "~/")
Applying the "fixup" patch I attached above fixes the build for this
scenario
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>> Hmm... I tried
>> ln -s .../emacs ~/tmp/
>> cd ~/tmp/emacs
>> git clean -fdx
>
> I don't understand the following steps. I never thought of copying
> confiure files --
>> cp .../configure ./
>> cp .../src/config.in src/
>> ./configure
Rather than try and remember how to run things like autoreconf, I just
"do what I usually" do (e.g. run "./configure") and fix the immediate
errors I get (first the lack of `configure` and then the lack of
`src/config.in`), which I fixed by copying those files from another
build tree I had nearby.
> The recipe i indicated had these steps instead:
>
> cd ~/tmp/emacs
> # realpath . =3D=3D> (/path/to/emacs)
> git clean -fxd
> autoreconf -fi
> ./configure
> make
Hmm... just tried the following:
ln -s .../emacs/tmp ~/tmp/emacs
cd ~/tmp/emacs
git clean -fdx
autoreconf -fi
./configure
make -j4
But couldn't reproduce your failure. =F0=9F=99=81
Looks like it depends on some other detail somewhere.
So for now we're stuck with remote debugging (see below).
> [The use case for this recipe is this:
Been there done that. =F0=9F=99=82
Could you apply the patch below and then do
rm lisp/loaddefs.el; make V=3D1
and show the corresponding output?
Stefan
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen=
.el
index 44f370bdff9..287ac541991 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -662,6 +662,8 @@ loaddefs-generate
(file-attributes file))))
;; If we're scanning for package versions, we want to look
;; at the file even if it's excluded.
+ (when (string-match "paren" file)
+ (message "FILE=3D%S EXCLUDED-FILES=3D%S" file excluded-files))
(let* ((excluded
;; FIXME: In out-of-tree builds (bug#79694) `excluded-fi=
les'
;; (derived via `lisp-directory' from `invocation-direct=
ory')
@@ -821,6 +823,8 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
+ (message "DEFAULT-DIRECTORY=3D%S LISP-DIRECTORY=3D%S ARGS=3D%S"
+ default-directory lisp-directory command-line-args-left)
(let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
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debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > I have pushed the patch below to `master` which I believe fixes the > problem at its root. Works here. Thanks, martin
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Full text available.Received: (at 79822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2025 01:30:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 13 20:30:29 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58627 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1vJidx-0004xf-5z for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Nov 2025 20:30:29 -0500 Received: from smtp2.ctinetworks.com ([205.166.61.237]:42148) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <enometh@HIDDEN>) id 1vJidu-0004xS-EQ; Thu, 13 Nov 2025 20:30:27 -0500 X-ctinetworks-Watermark: 1763947825.41097@4Ka0rtOAsIFNqwerthe/lw X-ctinetworks-Envelope-From: enometh@HIDDEN X-ctinetworks-SpamCheck: X-ctinetworks-VirusCheck: Found to be clean X-ctinetworks-Message-ID: 9CB93EC8A.A7D6A Received: from localhost (unknown [61.2.109.238]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: enometh@HIDDEN) by smtp2.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CB93EC8A; Thu, 13 Nov 2025 20:30:23 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp2.ctinetworks.com 9CB93EC8A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=meer.net; s=ctidkims1; t=1763083825; bh=lluHkVAQMp0KPSJeurqYbnOeJXA7e3NVKHhI8xfRY0w=; h=Date:To:Cc:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FrOlINs1TLt1RZG2PUYP7cUcwLWiKsPNMW1Jms1YL6tUlTD5ZHVeSaqEt70CjxnvZ aQ1kCEGPnv3XC/7VSo+mzixfJZzNjrjoMGmUQB1HG+kp+QjvSmDNX9Zb6JiCbXVszT xYOLBVJeuY5JFFt4izRbvWjEOiYBaTDKrn49EIs4= Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 07:00:21 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <20251114.070021.453838426843462697.enometh@HIDDEN> To: monnier@HIDDEN Subject: Re: bug#79821: 31.0.50; build broken for "in-tree" out-of-tree builds From: Madhu <enometh@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <jwvcy5l65b7.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> References: <jwv7bvu6p58.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <20251113.201300.1294944223743787263.enometh@HIDDEN> <jwvcy5l65b7.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.9 on Emacs 31.0.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79822 Cc: rudalics@HIDDEN, 79821 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 79822 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Hmm... I tried > ln -s .../emacs ~/tmp/ > cd ~/tmp/emacs > git clean -fdx I don't understand the following steps. I never thought of copying confiure files -- > cp .../configure ./ > cp .../src/config.in src/ > ./configure The recipe i indicated had these steps instead: cd ~/tmp/emacs # realpath . ==> (/path/to/emacs) git clean -fxd autoreconf -fi ./configure make `make' then cd's to the the build directory in ...emacs the rest of the diagnosis is in my earlier mail. [The use case for this recipe is this: keep huge builds in /var/tmp/STORAGE/extern/emacs-* and refer to them under my limited quota'd home directory ln -sv /var/tmp/STORAGE ~/scratch my scripts unifromly access ~/scratch/extern/emacs/src/emacs ]
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> This fixes the make -C emacs/build scenario but doesn't fix the
> symlink case I outlined above [where i run configure in say ~/emacs
> which is a symlink to say /tmp/emacs.] The fixup may still be
> necessary. ---Madhu
Hmm... I tried
ln -s .../emacs ~/tmp/
cd ~/tmp/emacs
git clean -fdx
cp .../configure ./
cp .../src/config.in src/
./configure
make
and that worked fine for me (even though the output (and a grep through
the generated files) shows a godawful mix of `~/tmp/emacs` and `.../emacs`).
I thought the above was the recipe that caused problems, but apparently
I'm missing something in that recipe.
Stefan
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I have pushed the patch below to `master` which I believe fixes the
problem at its root.
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diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
index fcec04115e4..44f370bdff9 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -821,7 +821,7 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
- (let* ((args command-line-args-left)
+ (let* ((args (mapcar #'expand-file-name command-line-args-left))
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
;; so go there and don't look back.
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* Madhu
Wrote on Wed, 12 Nov 2025 22:43:30 +0530:
> The patch I submitted works only when no symlinks are involved.
>
> If I unpack emacs under /var/tmp/emacs
> and do ln -sv /var/tmp/emacs ~/extern/emacs
> cd ~/extern/emacs
> ./configure
> make
>
> Then the dreaded show-paren-mode error comes back to haunt.
>
> this is perhaps because make resolves the true name:
> ... Entering directory '/var/tmp/emacs/' ...
>
> and then the relative dirs passed to loaddefs-generate get resolved
> under /var/tmp
> but the excluded-files end up under ~/extern/emacs.
FWIW I could fix this with the following patch. (the comments are out
of sync in these patches, but they are experimental only)
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From e2ef717143bd5f051ed5dc07f1e6cb6a8e885966 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Madhu <enometh@HIDDEN>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 19:31:08 +0000
Subject: [PATCH] fixup! fix compilation in "in tree" "out of tree" builds
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
index 4286c74ea16..bd25f84f353 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -642,7 +642,7 @@ loaddefs-generate
;; even tho it's different from what we do when it's a list.
(let ((basedir (if (stringp dirs) dirs)))
(setq excluded-files
- (mapcar (lambda (file) (expand-file-name file basedir))
+ (mapcar (lambda (file) (file-truename (expand-file-name file basedir)))
excluded-files)))
;; Collect all the autoload data.
--
2.49.0.9.gd50a5e8939.dirty
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FWIW I was able to get it to build by partially reverting 34ab8ab
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From aadb001460f5f470ea3b45e85158d42b55eb8c28 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Madhu <enometh@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:10 +0530
Subject: [PATCH] fix compilation in "in tree" "out of tree" builds
partially revert 34ab8ab:
---
lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el | 17 ++++++++++-------
1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
index fcec04115e4..4286c74ea16 100644
--- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.el
@@ -789,6 +789,7 @@ loaddefs-generate--excluded-files
;; Exclude those files that are preloaded on ALL platforms.
;; These are the ones in loadup.el where "(load" is at the start
;; of the line (crude, but it works).
+ (let ((default-directory (file-name-as-directory lisp-directory)))
(unless (equal default-directory (file-name-as-directory lisp-directory))
(error "PWD is not set as expected: %S" default-directory))
(let ((excludes nil))
@@ -798,12 +799,12 @@ loaddefs-generate--excluded-files
(while (re-search-forward "^(load \"\\([^\"]+\\)\"" nil t)
(let ((file (match-string 1)))
(unless (string-match "\\`site-" file)
- (push (if (string-match "\\.el\\'" file)
+ (push (expand-file-name (if (string-match "\\.el\\'" file)
file
- (format "%s.el" file))
+ (format "%s.el" file)))
excludes)))))
;; Don't scan ldefs-boot.el, either.
- (cons "ldefs-boot.el" excludes)))
+ (cons (expand-file-name "ldefs-boot.el") excludes)))):
;;;###autoload
(defun loaddefs-generate-batch ()
@@ -821,12 +822,14 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
"Generate the loaddefs for the Emacs build.
This is like `loaddefs-generate-batch', but has some specific
rules for built-in packages and excluded files."
+ ;; (error "lisp-directory=%S" lisp-directory)
(let* ((args command-line-args-left)
;; We're run from $BUILDDIR/lisp but all the .el(c) files reside
;; (and are generated) in `lisp-directory' which is in $SRCDIR,
;; so go there and don't look back.
- (default-directory lisp-directory)
- (output-file (expand-file-name "loaddefs.el")))
+ ;; don't ! madhu 251112
+ ;; (default-directory lisp-directory)
+ (output-file (expand-file-name "loaddefs.el" lisp-directory)))
(setq command-line-args-left nil)
(loaddefs-generate
args output-file
@@ -840,8 +843,8 @@ loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch
(let ((lisp-mode-autoload-regexp
"^;;;###\\(\\(noexist\\)-\\)?\\(theme-autoload\\)"))
(loaddefs-generate
- (expand-file-name "../etc/themes/")
- (expand-file-name "theme-loaddefs.el")))))
+ (expand-file-name "../etc/themes/" lisp-directory)
+ (expand-file-name "theme-loaddefs.el" lisp-directory)))))
;;;###autoload (load "theme-loaddefs.el" t)
--
2.49.0.9.gd50a5e8939.dirty
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Full text available.Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
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merge 79822 79821
thanks
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2025 16:13:56 +0530 (IST)
> From: Madhu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>
>
> On current master, on a fresh checkout to /dev/shm/emacs, after autoreconf:
> cd /dev/shm/emacs
>
> autoreconf -fi
> mkdir build-nox
> cd build-nox
> ../configure
> make
>
>
> ```
> make[4]: Leaving directory '/dev/shm/emacs/build-nox/admin/grammars'
> '../src/bootstrap-emacs' -batch --no-site-file --no-site-lisp \
> -l ../../lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.elc \
> -f loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch ../../lisp ../../lisp/calc ../../lisp/calendar ../../lisp/cedet ../../lisp/cedet/ede ../../lisp/cedet/semantic ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/analyze ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/bovine ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/decorate ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/symref ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/wisent ../../lisp/cedet/srecode ../../lisp/emacs-lisp ../../lisp/emulation ../../lisp/erc ../../lisp/eshell ../../lisp/gnus ../../lisp/image ../../lisp/international ../../lisp/language ../../lisp/leim ../../lisp/leim/quail ../../lisp/mail ../../lisp/mh-e ../../lisp/net ../../lisp/nxml ../../lisp/org ../../lisp/play ../../lisp/progmodes ../../lisp/textmodes ../../lisp/url ../../lisp/use-package ../../lisp/vc
>
> Error: file-missing ("Opening directory" "No such file or directory" "/dev/shm/lisp")
> ```
This is a duplicate of bug#79821, so I'm merging them.
Stefan, could you please look into this?
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On current master, on a fresh checkout to /dev/shm/emacs, after autoreconf:
cd /dev/shm/emacs
autoreconf -fi
mkdir build-nox
cd build-nox
../configure
make
```
make[4]: Leaving directory '/dev/shm/emacs/build-nox/admin/grammars'
'../src/bootstrap-emacs' -batch --no-site-file --no-site-lisp \
-l ../../lisp/emacs-lisp/loaddefs-gen.elc \
-f loaddefs-generate--emacs-batch ../../lisp ../../lisp/calc ../../lisp/calendar ../../lisp/cedet ../../lisp/cedet/ede ../../lisp/cedet/semantic ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/analyze ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/bovine ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/decorate ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/symref ../../lisp/cedet/semantic/wisent ../../lisp/cedet/srecode ../../lisp/emacs-lisp ../../lisp/emulation ../../lisp/erc ../../lisp/eshell ../../lisp/gnus ../../lisp/image ../../lisp/international ../../lisp/language ../../lisp/leim ../../lisp/leim/quail ../../lisp/mail ../../lisp
/mh-e ../../lisp/net ../../lisp/nxml ../../lisp/org ../../lisp/play ../../lisp/p
rogmodes ../../lisp/textmodes ../../lisp/url ../../lisp/use-package ../../lisp/v
c
Error: file-missing ("Opening directory" "No such file or directory" "/dev/shm/l
isp")
```
Madhu <enometh@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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