Received: (at 79835) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2025 07:07:13 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 28 02:07:13 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1vOsZV-00053d-6x for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:07:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56446) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1vOsZT-00053N-39 for 79835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:07:11 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1vOsZL-0004mO-H8; Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:07:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=PuHy+aC5bvnMXJbYurRxiiRiBUif/9fIHJkNHDloZGk=; b=qhvmmOXN47Jq uIi6rjH46yMxHTz4Bwdm5W5bXsOBKPkULWAYWpsqIoRiEN2sktqp1P3v7gDqi6G86xuACeD5SBDa2 eNqXtJcgmM1d73paodSjdOk+PDOmdoOKT/L3SnyKjxCnJvK+r4ZMVp2j16fPde7RAzns+R0AYGB5S WvjH1NtSXxh3ZBEKaLXkLKxtQNpyGtQHf6F8iHVb7VsRsJeGNi0WkfGGqZOC9PlopGve7jU/L00LV 4hqxtrGraB2NpX3RuYLvGJ1XaKQi7tQVIg/Y4gxJDWyQZQwFFmfQwz55HAsItwcHt9qtTI70PoORg OO8dTY7kkgaUr09RIiKlbg==; Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2025 09:07:00 +0200 Message-Id: <86fr9yab57.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <f7fdd6f1-c8f6-441e-8bd2-e1da90aa62df@HIDDEN> (message from Jens Schmidt on Thu, 27 Nov 2025 21:14:35 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#79835: [PATCH] Add query-replace-read-transpose-from-to References: <87tsywl7cq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecpxc3y1.fsf@HIDDEN> <84bd31d1-9d93-4e36-bc79-40f886a6bc00@HIDDEN> <86ldk4lu1x.fsf@HIDDEN> <64e666bd-66f5-49df-9425-389b0030ac5f@HIDDEN> <86ecpwkogb.fsf@HIDDEN> <ecf86e97-ff6a-4dac-86de-897c72bc6484@HIDDEN> <87y0nrqr2p.fsf@HIDDEN> <f7fdd6f1-c8f6-441e-8bd2-e1da90aa62df@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79835 Cc: 79835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, juri@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2025 21:14:35 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 79835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@HIDDEN> > > I don't think there is a big rush getting this transpose thingy in, > unless Eli plans to split off Emacs 31 really soon. I don't plan to cut the emacs-31 branch before (a) we land the igc branch, and (b) we install the TrueColor support for the Windows terminal. The former awaits stabilization of the branch (I think we are almost there, if not there already), the latter awaits the completion of the legal paperwork (which unfortunately turned out to be exceedingly complicated in this case). Realistically, I don't expect to cut the emacs-31 branch for at least another month.
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Sun, 23 Nov 2025 21:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Visuwesh <visuweshm@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#79835: [PATCH] Add query-replace-read-transpose-from-to In-Reply-To: <87346atrbo.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 10:32:21 +0530 Message-ID: <873464gh0i.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87tsywl7cq.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ecpxc3y1.fsf@HIDDEN> <84bd31d1-9d93-4e36-bc79-40f886a6bc00@HIDDEN> <874iqrocbq.fsf@HIDDEN> <cc381453-8969-4fc5-879c-ad9c192b44f1@HIDDEN> <87346atrbo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79835 Cc: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@HIDDEN>, 79835 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=A8=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=AE= =E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=B0=E0=AF=8D 19, 2025] Juri Linkov wrote: >>> Shouldn't this error when `from =E2=86=92 to' is something like >>>=20 >>> SOME-REGEXP =E2=86=92 "\&" >>>=20 >>> or some such where the replacement part of the command uses the fancy \X >>> stuff? >> >> Agreed, transposing FROM and TO is less helpful for >> `query-replace-regexp' than for just `query-replace'. But I somewhat >> feel that it would be hard to draw a line which FROM and TO should be >> allowed to be transposed and which should not. For example, "\&" is >> just an overly complicated way to match "&", but a valid regexp, after >> all. >> >> What would be feasible, though, is a test whether TO is valid as regular >> expression before transposing, for example, with >> >> (ignore-errors (string-match-p TO "") t) >> >> But then we probably also should test FROM for validity before >> transposing, since a lone backslash is valid as FROM, but not as TO. >> >> But then again the user might very well know what she is doing, and be >> annoyed by the extra noise caused by such a pre-transpose test. >> >> In short, I'd rather keep that feature simple, and as it is. > > Indeed, the user might want to transpose these parts > to edit them more afterwards, e.g. > > SOME-TEXT =E2=86=92 "OTHER-TEXT \&" > > transpose to > > "OTHER-TEXT \&" =E2=86=92 SOME-TEXT > > then manually edit to > > OTHER-TEXT =E2=86=92 "SOME-TEXT \&" Somehow it slipped pass my mind that I could repeat M-s t in case the transpose does not make sense. c:
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I took example from functions `query-replace-read-from' >> and `query-replace-read-to', which also refer to `from' and `to', >> respectively. Should I change these, too? > > Yes, please. Done in the attached patch. From my POV there is one cave-at and one nit open: - Currently, this feature is mostly unusable since its usage almost certainly will trigger bug#70122. So I'd rather wait for that to be handled in some way or other before installing this patch. (Obviously, when first testing this I transposed only "foo" with "bar", which belongs to the rare cases that does not trigger above bug.) - In principle, function `read-regexp' could be used outside the context of `query-replace-regexp', so providing a binding for `query-replace-read-transpose-from-to' in `read-regexp-map' is somewhat unclean. (Nothing bad happens if someone uses `M-s t' in a non-replace `read-regexp', just a slightly confusing error will be issued.) 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ug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote:
> On 2025-11-16 17:55, Juri Linkov wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much for implementing this long-missed feature.
>> Adding a NEWS entry would be nice.
Agreed, it would be nice to finally have this.
> Please see the attached patch. Thanks!
>
> From 79ec4fb8105cc6f2a92321dba4f3f37ae8752adf Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Jens Schmidt <farblos@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 20:28:23 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] Add query-replace-read-transpose-from-to
>
> From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@HIDDEN>
>
> Provide a command to easily swap 'from' and 'to' in a query replace
> operation.
>
> * lisp/replace.el (query-replace-read-transpose-from-to): New function.
> (query-replace-read-map): New keymap.
> (query-replace-read-from): Use new keymap to read from minibuffer.
> (read-regexp-map): Inherit from 'query-replace-read-map'.
> * etc/NEWS: Document the change. (Bug#79835)
> [...]=20=20
> +(defun query-replace-read-transpose-from-to ()
> + "Transpose the `from' and `to' of a `query-replace' operation."
> + (interactive)
> + (if-let* ((sep-beg
> + (next-single-property-change (minibuffer-prompt-end) 'separ=
ator))
> + (sep-end
> + (next-single-property-change sep-beg 'separator)))
> + (transpose-regions (minibuffer-prompt-end) sep-beg
> + sep-end (point-max))
> + (user-error "No query-replace separator to transpose around")))
> +
Shouldn't this error when `from =E2=86=92 to' is something like
SOME-REGEXP =E2=86=92 "\&"
or some such where the replacement part of the command uses the fancy \X
stuff?
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> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
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> > Thank you very much for implementing this long-missed feature.
> > Adding a NEWS entry would be nice.
>
> Please see the attached patch. Thanks!
Thanks.
> +(defun query-replace-read-transpose-from-to ()
> + "Transpose the `from' and `to' of a `query-replace' operation."
This should use FROM and TO. Something like
Transpose the FROM and TO arguments of a `query-replace' operation.
> +(defvar-keymap query-replace-read-map
> :parent minibuffer-local-map
> + ;; defining M-s as a prefix here has the side effect of hiding
^^^^^^^^
Please start a sentence with a capital letter.
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Occasionally I find it useful to transpose/swap the "from" and "to" in
the minibuffer query of a `query-replace' or `query-replace-regexp'.
For example:
- To undo a replacement that (because of other editing that already has
happened) cannot be easily undone with C-_.
- To replace first "foo" => "bar", then "bar" => "baz" for a subset of
the previous replacements.
The attached patch provides a new command
`query-replace-read-transpose-from-to' that does exactly that.
There is one cave-at: For the new command I extended the prefix M-s
already used by `query-replace-regexp' (through `read-regexp-map') also
to be used by plain `query-replace' (through new
`query-replace-read-map'). This hides the current binding of M-s for
`next-matching-history-element'. See patch for details.
If you find this idea useful, I'd make that a full-fledged patch. Which
in that case probably just means to add a NEWS entry: I don't consider
this feature important enough to document it in any manual, and
replace-tests.el does not seem to have the infrastructure to simulate
minibuffer actions.
Thanks!
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From f41e981745ce2477ce5a401d8236c13d386b2a26 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jens Schmidt <farblos@HIDDEN>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 20:28:23 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Add query-replace-read-transpose-from-to
From: Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@HIDDEN>
Provide a means to easily transpose `from' and `to' in a `query-replace'
operation.
* lisp/replace.el (query-replace-read-transpose-from-to): New function.
(query-replace-read-map): New keymap.
(query-replace-read-from): Use new keymap to read from minibuffer.
(read-regexp-map): Inherit from `query-replace-read-map'.
---
lisp/replace.el | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++--
1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/replace.el b/lisp/replace.el
index 6635cc6afe4..c5c42012d7b 100644
--- a/lisp/replace.el
+++ b/lisp/replace.el
@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ query-replace-read-from
query-replace-read-from-regexp-default
'minibuffer-history)
(read-from-minibuffer
- prompt nil nil nil nil
+ prompt nil query-replace-read-map nil nil
(if default
(delete-dups
(cons default (query-replace-read-from-suggestions)))
@@ -387,6 +387,17 @@ query-replace-read-args
(get-text-property 0 'isearch-regexp-function from)))
(and current-prefix-arg (eq current-prefix-arg '-))))))
+(defun query-replace-read-transpose-from-to ()
+ "Transpose the `from' and `to' of a `query-replace' operation."
+ (interactive)
+ (if-let* ((sep-beg
+ (next-single-property-change (minibuffer-prompt-end) 'separator))
+ (sep-end
+ (next-single-property-change sep-beg 'separator)))
+ (transpose-regions (minibuffer-prompt-end) sep-beg
+ sep-end (point-max))
+ (user-error "No search-replace separator to transpose around")))
+
(defun query-replace (from-string to-string &optional delimited start end backward region-noncontiguous-p)
"Replace some occurrences of FROM-STRING with TO-STRING.
As each match is found, the user must type a character saying
@@ -829,8 +840,17 @@ read-regexp-suggestions
(regexp-quote (or (car search-ring) ""))
(car (symbol-value query-replace-from-history-variable))))
-(defvar-keymap read-regexp-map
+(defvar-keymap query-replace-read-map
:parent minibuffer-local-map
+ ;; defining M-s as a prefix here has the side effect of hiding
+ ;; regular M-s, bound to `next-matching-history-element' in the
+ ;; default minibuffer map. Try to mitigate that loss.
+ "M-s s" #'next-matching-history-element
+ "M-s M-s" #'next-matching-history-element
+ "M-s t" #'query-replace-read-transpose-from-to)
+
+(defvar-keymap read-regexp-map
+ :parent query-replace-read-map
"M-s c" #'read-regexp-toggle-case-fold)
(defvar read-regexp--case-fold nil)
--
2.47.3
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