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Hello,

I'm not sure if the behavior below is expected or perhaps a bug?
I'm using GNU coreutils 9.6

According to the TEST(1) manpage:

       -n STRING
              the length of STRING is nonzero

       STRING equivalent to -n STRING


However, the small script below will produce inconsistent results, where
only the first if conditional will evaluate to True:

#!/bin/bash

B=" "

if [ -n $B ]; then
        echo "passed 1"
fi

if [ $B ]; then
        echo "passed 2"
fi


However it seems to me the variable expansion plays a role here, I'm not
sure if the variable expansion was supposed to differ between "$B" and
"-n $B" too, so perhaps it's a bash thing not a "test" thing?

Cheers,
Carlos




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On 27/11/2025 12:33, Carlos Maiolino via GNU coreutils Bug Reports wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure if the behavior below is expected or perhaps a bug?
> I'm using GNU coreutils 9.6
> 
> According to the TEST(1) manpage:
> 
>         -n STRING
>                the length of STRING is nonzero
> 
>         STRING equivalent to -n STRING
> 
> 
> However, the small script below will produce inconsistent results, where
> only the first if conditional will evaluate to True:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> B=" "
> 
> if [ -n $B ]; then
>          echo "passed 1"
> fi
> 
> if [ $B ]; then
>          echo "passed 2"
> fi
> 
> 
> However it seems to me the variable expansion plays a role here, I'm not
> sure if the variable expansion was supposed to differ between "$B" and
> "-n $B" too, so perhaps it's a bash thing not a "test" thing?

You need to quote the variable expansion to maintain spaces,
otherwise `test -n $B` is equivalent to `test '-n'` which is true.

You want: [ -n "$B" ] && [ "$B" ] && echo both passed

cheers,
Padraig.




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On 27/11/2025 12:33, Carlos Maiolino via GNU coreutils Bug Reports wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure if the behavior below is expected or perhaps a bug?
> I'm using GNU coreutils 9.6
> 
> According to the TEST(1) manpage:
> 
>         -n STRING
>                the length of STRING is nonzero
> 
>         STRING equivalent to -n STRING
> 
> 
> However, the small script below will produce inconsistent results, where
> only the first if conditional will evaluate to True:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> B=" "
> 
> if [ -n $B ]; then
>          echo "passed 1"
> fi
> 
> if [ $B ]; then
>          echo "passed 2"
> fi
> 
> 
> However it seems to me the variable expansion plays a role here, I'm not
> sure if the variable expansion was supposed to differ between "$B" and
> "-n $B" too, so perhaps it's a bash thing not a "test" thing?

You need to quote the variable expansion to maintain spaces,
otherwise `test -n $B` is equivalent to `test '-n'` which is true.

You want: [ -n "$B" ] && [ "$B" ] && echo both passed

cheers,
Padraig.




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On 27/11/2025 12:33, Carlos Maiolino via GNU coreutils Bug Reports wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure if the behavior below is expected or perhaps a bug?
> I'm using GNU coreutils 9.6
> 
> According to the TEST(1) manpage:
> 
>         -n STRING
>                the length of STRING is nonzero
> 
>         STRING equivalent to -n STRING
> 
> 
> However, the small script below will produce inconsistent results, where
> only the first if conditional will evaluate to True:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> B=" "
> 
> if [ -n $B ]; then
>          echo "passed 1"
> fi
> 
> if [ $B ]; then
>          echo "passed 2"
> fi
> 
> 
> However it seems to me the variable expansion plays a role here, I'm not
> sure if the variable expansion was supposed to differ between "$B" and
> "-n $B" too, so perhaps it's a bash thing not a "test" thing?

You need to quote the variable expansion to maintain spaces,
otherwise `test -n $B` is equivalent to `test '-n'` which is true.

You want: [ -n "$B" ] && [ "$B" ] && echo both passed

cheers,
Padraig.





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