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Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN mailing list,
and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

After the customizing of mouse face, the face of mouse is saved as followin=
g
in .emacs file.

'(mouse ((t (:background "purple" :foreground "black" :box (:line-width 2 :=
color "black" :style released-button) :underline "black")))))

But the background options is not effective when emacs is started again. Ba=
ckgroun is always "white".

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
    `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
/usr/share/emacs/23.1/etc/DEBUG for instructions.


In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
 of 2010-03-30 on rothera, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40300=
000
configured using `configure  '--build=3Di486-linux-gnu' '--host=3Di486-linu=
x-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/usr=
/lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=
=3D/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs2=
3:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/s=
ite-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/sh=
are/emacs/23.1/leim' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' '--with-tool=
kit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gn=
u' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g' 'CPPFLAGS=3D''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  show-paren-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>=20
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>=20
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>=20
<help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu> <send-emacs-bug
-report>

Recent messages:
Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el (source)...d=
one
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...done
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-goodies-el.el (source)...done
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-intl-fonts.el (source)...done
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50global.el (source)...done
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50maxima-emacs.el (source)...done
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50psvn.el (source)...done
Loading paren...done
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
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Huafeng Zhou wrote:

> '(mouse ((t (:background "purple" :foreground "black" :box
> (:line-width 2 :color "black" :style released-button) :underline "black")))))
>
> But the background options is not effective when emacs is started
> again. Backgroun is always "white".
[...]
> In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
>  of 2010-03-30 on rothera, modified by Debian

I could not reproduce a problem with Debian's 23.2+1-7. As a guess,
perhaps some window manager / desktop environment theme is imposing
itself.




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The Emacs is distributed by Ubuntu 10.10.
Window manager: GNOME Version:2.32.0
Default display manager: XDM 1:1.1.8-6ubuntu2

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Morris [mailto:rgm@HIDDEN]=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:55 AM
To: Huafeng Zhou
Cc: 8003 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#8003: 23.1; Background of mouse is incorrect

Huafeng Zhou wrote:

> '(mouse ((t (:background "purple" :foreground "black" :box
> (:line-width 2 :color "black" :style released-button) :underline "black")=
))))
>
> But the background options is not effective when emacs is started
> again. Backgroun is always "white".
[...]
> In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
>  of 2010-03-30 on rothera, modified by Debian

I could not reproduce a problem with Debian's 23.2+1-7. As a guess,
perhaps some window manager / desktop environment theme is imposing
itself.




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Again. It is found that mouse-color is defined in default-frame-alist as fo=
llowing.
(setq default-frame-alist
      (append (list '(foreground-color . "black")
            '(mouse-color . "white")
            '(cursor-color . "black")
            '(width . 120)
            '(height . 50)
       default-frame-alist))
The above 'mouse-color' was effective although the following were defined i=
n parallel.
'(mouse ((t (:background "blue" :foreground "black" :box (:line-width 2 :co=
lor "black" :style released-button) :underline "black")))))
The problem was not there in former version of Emacs such as 21.3.1.




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Huafeng Zhou <HZhou@HIDDEN> writes:

> Again. It is found that mouse-color is defined in default-frame-alist as following.
> (setq default-frame-alist
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>             '(mouse-color . "white")
>             '(cursor-color . "black")
>             '(width . 120)
>             '(height . 50)
>        default-frame-alist))
> The above 'mouse-color' was effective although the following were defined in parallel.
> '(mouse ((t (:background "blue" :foreground "black" :box (:line-width 2 :color "black" :style released-button) :underline "black")))))

Hm, I tried reproducing this now in Emacs 27, but then I realised I
didn't know what to look for.  What is the `mouse' face used for?  It
can't be the mouse pointer, I guess, and it's not used for
highlighting.  I tried grepping, but the only usage I could find was in
speedbar.el.

Anybody?

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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 20:15:30 +0200
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> Huafeng Zhou <HZhou@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > Again. It is found that mouse-color is defined in default-frame-alist as following.
> > (setq default-frame-alist
> >       (append (list '(foreground-color . "black")
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> >             '(width . 120)
> >             '(height . 50)
> >        default-frame-alist))
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> > '(mouse ((t (:background "blue" :foreground "black" :box (:line-width 2 :color "black" :style released-button) :underline "black")))))
> 
> Hm, I tried reproducing this now in Emacs 27, but then I realised I
> didn't know what to look for.  What is the `mouse' face used for?  It
> can't be the mouse pointer, I guess, and it's not used for
> highlighting.  I tried grepping, but the only usage I could find was in
> speedbar.el.

The 'mouse' face's background color is the color of the mouse pointer.
See the description of 'mouse-color' frame parameter in the node "Font
and Color Parameters" in the ELisp manual.




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> The 'mouse' face's background color is the color of the mouse pointer.
> See the description of 'mouse-color' frame parameter in the node "Font
> and Color Parameters" in the ELisp manual.

I see; thanks.  But if I change that face, I can't see anything changing
with the mouse pointer.  Does it depend on, er, what graphics library
and OS you're using?

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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: HZhou@HIDDEN,  8003 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 12:31:16 +0200
> 
> > The 'mouse' face's background color is the color of the mouse pointer.
> > See the description of 'mouse-color' frame parameter in the node "Font
> > and Color Parameters" in the ELisp manual.
> 
> I see; thanks.  But if I change that face, I can't see anything changing
> with the mouse pointer.  Does it depend on, er, what graphics library
> and OS you're using?

Yes, I think it's only visible in non-toolkit builds or something.




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> I see; thanks.  But if I change that face, I can't see anything changing
>> with the mouse pointer.  Does it depend on, er, what graphics library
>> and OS you're using?
>
> Yes, I think it's only visible in non-toolkit builds or something.

I tried a -with-x-toolkit=no, which gave me

  What window system should Emacs use?                    x11
  What toolkit should Emacs use?                          none

and still no difference that I can see with the mouse pointer.

Neither does

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> I tried a -with-x-toolkit=no, which gave me
> 
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> and still no difference that I can see with the mouse pointer.
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> Neither does
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> affect the mouse pointer here...

Does it work to invoke Emacs with --mouse-color=white?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> Does it work to invoke Emacs with --mouse-color=white?

No, the mouse pointer remains stubbornly black with a white outline.  I
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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
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> > Does it work to invoke Emacs with --mouse-color=white?
> 
> No, the mouse pointer remains stubbornly black with a white outline.  I
> wonder whether perhaps Gnome (or something) is overriding the mouse
> pointer.

Could be, I know almost nothing about this X stuff.

Can you at least see in GDB that x_set_mouse_color is called and does
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> Can you at least see in GDB that x_set_mouse_color is called and does
> its job of loading the requested color, when you either invoke Emacs
> with --mouse-color=white or invoke the set-mouse-color function from
> within a running session?

Yup; it's called (and I can see that the colour it tries to set changes
if I vary --mouse-color), but there's no effect on this Gnome-ish
laptop.  I haven't tried in other environments.

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> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: HZhou@HIDDEN,  8003 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 15:46:05 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > Can you at least see in GDB that x_set_mouse_color is called and does
> > its job of loading the requested color, when you either invoke Emacs
> > with --mouse-color=white or invoke the set-mouse-color function from
> > within a running session?
> 
> Yup; it's called (and I can see that the colour it tries to set changes
> if I vary --mouse-color), but there's no effect on this Gnome-ish
> laptop.  I haven't tried in other environments.

OK, thanks.  Maybe someone could try this in other environments, and
we could then update the documentation with the appropriate caveats.





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