X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#8044: Automake should support autotest-based testsuites. 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I think that automake should support autotest-based testsuites out-of-the-box. The steps required to set up an autotest-based testsuite are already excellently described in the autoconf manual: <http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/html_node/Making-testsuite-Scripts.html> and seem pretty mechanical, so it shouldn't be too much difficult to teach automake how to reproduce them. Do you think that would be worthwhile? If yes, I might attempt an implementation (taking as references/inspiration the autoconf manual and autoconf's own tests/Makefile.am). I must warn you that that will probably take me some time, tough. Regards, Stefano
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#8044: Automake should support autotest-based testsuites. Resent-From: Jack Kelly <jack@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.8044.B8044.12977942036029 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8044 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> Cc: 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8044-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B8044.12977942036029 (code B ref 8044); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 8044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2011 18:23:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1PpPYZ-0001ZB-6R for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:23:23 -0500 Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.212.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <endgame.dos@HIDDEN>) id 1PpPYX-0001Yz-7e for 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:23:22 -0500 Received: by vws7 with SMTP id 7so335757vws.3 for <8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:32:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3h33vhYIe/Q7b2dFzT7Gk9PCN3qQ+L88f+VGgYv+/OI=; b=oc/QPy5A3qg24gM6am5ntLDhXxxDwbSOjRal4Hah9bqqK3HJYqEZkQtab3X0bYJbUW CrRlNOuJAn2F5rFv7wSRWCqB37NWYOUQNtYdyiLuM8RyIUznsJiYPeWm8/jFq+XU0xXP YKQqkqtN57PmPCNm6sBYLqmKBwhWWgsWxFZgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Q/bcTt536746Rq+VsozEWNqGWg2er2PedesdEApYS2cW+qTrlyqgik2LnJ9ob3Lxom IqKvbTcm+ZxedmwC7N6XJEvm7nh0PFNyKGmooYjUnn6mVDAQY7EuWJoLbc5an2/AXTsX AFd8SDxQjaUNfBkLFfoB7CUJ9lR2qDZuS25S8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.191.73 with SMTP id dl9mr1355981vcb.47.1297794739768; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.194.3 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:32:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201102151839.17704.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> References: <201102151839.17704.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:32:19 +1100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IdgEDnQaCn_WscJfnFeYfQwtk-M Message-ID: <AANLkTinrE=NN1_FC=5FDdbZBfLyGbqy2q=BkZVa9WG5U@HIDDEN> From: Jack Kelly <jack@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> wrote: > The steps required to set up an autotest-based testsuite are already > excellently described in the autoconf manual: > =A0<http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/html_node/Making-testsuit= e-Scripts.html> > and seem pretty mechanical, so it shouldn't be too much difficult to > teach automake how to reproduce them. > > Do you think that would be worthwhile? =A0If yes, I might attempt an > implementation (taking as references/inspiration the autoconf manual > and autoconf's own tests/Makefile.am). =A0I must warn you that that will > probably take me some time, tough. It sounds useful for some (probably not me, though), but I'd be wary of the big warning at the start of the autotest section: >> N.B.: This section describes a feature which is still >> stabilizing. Although we believe that Autotest is useful as-is, this >> documentation describes an interface which might change in the future: >> do not depend upon Autotest without subscribing to the Autoconf mailing >> lists. -- Jack
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Resent-From: Eric Blake <eblake@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.8044.B8044.12977950007182 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8044 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jack Kelly <jack@HIDDEN> Cc: Autoconf <Autoconf@HIDDEN>, Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>, 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8044-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B8044.12977950007182 (code B ref 8044); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 8044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2011 18:36:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1PpPlO-0001rn-Or for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:36:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <eblake@HIDDEN>) id 1PpPlL-0001rZ-Ga for 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:36:36 -0500 Received: from int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.25]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1FIihUJ009583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:44:43 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.118] (ovpn-113-118.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.118]) by int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p1FIi7OI031057; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:44:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4D5AC976.4020100@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:44:06 -0700 From: Eric Blake <eblake@HIDDEN> Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201102151839.17704.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> <AANLkTinrE=NN1_FC=5FDdbZBfLyGbqy2q=BkZVa9WG5U@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrE=NN1_FC=5FDdbZBfLyGbqy2q=BkZVa9WG5U@HIDDEN> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig923ED4002DE8DE635422B8EE" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.25 X-Spam-Score: -10.2 (----------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -10.2 (----------) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig923ED4002DE8DE635422B8EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [adding autoconf] On 02/15/2011 11:32 AM, Jack Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Stefano Lattarini > <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> wrote: >> The steps required to set up an autotest-based testsuite are already >> excellently described in the autoconf manual: >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/html_node/Making-testsui= te-Scripts.html> >> and seem pretty mechanical, so it shouldn't be too much difficult to >> teach automake how to reproduce them. >> >> Do you think that would be worthwhile? Absolutely! >> If yes, I might attempt an >> implementation (taking as references/inspiration the autoconf manual >> and autoconf's own tests/Makefile.am). I must warn you that that will= >> probably take me some time, tough. >=20 > It sounds useful for some (probably not me, though), but I'd be wary > of the big warning at the start of the autotest section: >=20 >>> N.B.: This section describes a feature which is still >>> stabilizing. Although we believe that Autotest is useful as-is, this= >>> documentation describes an interface which might change in the future= : >>> do not depend upon Autotest without subscribing to the Autoconf maili= ng >>> lists. Maybe it's time to nuke that paragraph from the next autoconf release. I think we've built up enough of autoconf's testsuite to promise a stable autotest interface, and that we can commit to maintaining backwards compatibility when adding further macros for easier testing. --=20 Eric Blake eblake@HIDDEN +1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --------------enig923ED4002DE8DE635422B8EE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJNWsl2AAoJEKeha0olJ0NqIx4H/ifpm74a5nZUQB2ybVYCZi2n SNb3fQObkcSPwQExtfmC7hMT8T5GotOUiSdvzkpiYaSF1Uh/hAGWgIrKajltv7cI bYJDdVb3czPFZVXnsVFjFAvihmH7DqeJBKv09rGBcWVImUlbTANYCDUU4tY3dtTs 24dBnvwl+isWtui/RJW6V4u9HNYEynyhF0wgjlcHVQl9vq58mYvrJwKxExCeOi/q QAjRhaCLDHyCD4V37nF1gbP4Blh5vVrU02UQYy7B4hcpo2aYL/8vPGc1NipP7j9G wiYFuxp0kIH8AePI4iZ4TlJ2pq3Xu1ExAuIWhhWqmvujHCRH4yS8AHaG6EsGw4U= =AMTR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig923ED4002DE8DE635422B8EE--
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#8044: Automake should support autotest-based testsuites. Resent-From: Ralf Wildenhues <Ralf.Wildenhues@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner <at> debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-automake@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.8044.B8044.129780183420501 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8044 X-GNU-PR-Package: automake X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Blake <eblake@HIDDEN> Cc: Autoconf <Autoconf@HIDDEN>, Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>, Jack Kelly <jack@HIDDEN>, 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 8044-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B8044.129780183420501 (code B ref 8044); Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 8044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2011 20:30:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1PpRXe-0005Kb-1w for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:30:34 -0500 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <Ralf.Wildenhues@HIDDEN>) id 1PpRXb-0005KO-IX for 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:30:32 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Feb 2011 20:39:29 -0000 Received: from xdsl-89-0-67-242.netcologne.de (EHLO localhost.localdomain) [89.0.67.242] by mail.gmx.net (mp046) with SMTP; 15 Feb 2011 21:39:29 +0100 X-Authenticated: #13673931 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18T74xhFHMTKzmgu9kJYYLWfaShQ/9SqXZ0NOaKvo tTleFpLtesdrpG Received: from ralf by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <Ralf.Wildenhues@HIDDEN>) id 1PpRgD-0006U2-Jg; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:39:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:39:25 +0100 From: Ralf Wildenhues <Ralf.Wildenhues@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <20110215203925.GF24361@HIDDEN> Mail-Followup-To: Eric Blake <eblake@HIDDEN>, Jack Kelly <jack@HIDDEN>, Autoconf <Autoconf@HIDDEN>, Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN>, 8044 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <201102151839.17704.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> <AANLkTinrE=NN1_FC=5FDdbZBfLyGbqy2q=BkZVa9WG5U@HIDDEN> <4D5AC976.4020100@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D5AC976.4020100@HIDDEN> Organization: Institute for Numerical Simulation, University of Bonn User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2010-08-04) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Hello, * Eric Blake wrote on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 07:44:06PM CET: > > It sounds useful for some (probably not me, though), but I'd be wary > > of the big warning at the start of the autotest section: > > > >>> N.B.: This section describes a feature which is still > >>> stabilizing. Although we believe that Autotest is useful as-is, this > >>> documentation describes an interface which might change in the future: > >>> do not depend upon Autotest without subscribing to the Autoconf mailing > >>> lists. > > Maybe it's time to nuke that paragraph from the next autoconf release. > I think we've built up enough of autoconf's testsuite to promise a > stable autotest interface, and that we can commit to maintaining > backwards compatibility when adding further macros for easier testing. I agree with this. I should add though, in a sort-of self-advertising mood, that you may want to consider that there are still possibly-good changes that would modify the Autotest API somewhat. For example, this AT_CHECK_PROGRESS (which I've been using as AT_CHECK for a while now): http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.autoconf.patches/cutoff=7562 Anyway. I too think support for Autotest in Automake would be a good thing. Thanks, Ralf
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