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31.0.50; org.el warning

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Richard Lawrence <rwl@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Do I understand correctly that there are breaking changes? If yes, are
>> they documented anywhere?
>
> Well, they are breaking in the sense that the new exporter is a
> completely new implementation and does not try to be bug-for-bug
> compatible.  But the old function is still there and you can continue to
> use it.  If you don't want to deal with breaking changes right now, I
> recommend you just wrap it in `with-suppressed-warnings'.
>
> The new exporter is documented in the manual and "should" do everything
> the old exporter did (at least where the old exporter does the right
> thing).  I was as careful about backward compatibility as I could be.
> If you notice any cases where they differ meaningfully, I would
> generally consider that a bug.
>
> But the old exporter's behavior was undocumented, not very customizable,
> and broken.  The new exporter more explicitly defines the diary format,
> and allows for more customization.  So we'll have to look individually
> at any cases where they diverge and see which has the better behavior.

Then, we should move on to the new exporter sooner or later. May as well
do it sooner, trusting that nothing is broken. If something is broken,
we will report. That's what master branch is for, after all.

-- 
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Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@HIDDEN> writes:

> However, Richard's reply makes me concerned about simple solution that
> obsoletion notice suggests.
>
>> Theoretically, you should be able to just replace
>> `icalendar-export-region' with `diary-icalendar-export-region'; the
>> interface is backward compatible and the new exporter should do a better
>> job.
>>
>> But the new exporter does work differently, so if Org was relying on any
>> idiosyncrasies of icalendar.el here, the quick fix is just to wrap with
>> `with-suppressed-warnings'.
>
> Do I understand correctly that there are breaking changes? If yes, are
> they documented anywhere?

Well, they are breaking in the sense that the new exporter is a
completely new implementation and does not try to be bug-for-bug
compatible.  But the old function is still there and you can continue to
use it.  If you don't want to deal with breaking changes right now, I
recommend you just wrap it in `with-suppressed-warnings'.

The new exporter is documented in the manual and "should" do everything
the old exporter did (at least where the old exporter does the right
thing).  I was as careful about backward compatibility as I could be.
If you notice any cases where they differ meaningfully, I would
generally consider that a bug.

But the old exporter's behavior was undocumented, not very customizable,
and broken.  The new exporter more explicitly defines the diary format,
and allows for more customization.  So we'll have to look individually
at any cases where they diverge and see which has the better behavior.

-- 
Best,
Richard




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Richard Lawrence <rwl@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Thanks.  Problems with Org should be reported to Org developers first.
>> CC'ing Ihor who might have a quick solution here.

We know about this bug. See https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/874in14d0t.fsf@HIDDEN/
However, Richard's reply makes me concerned about simple solution that
obsoletion notice suggests.

> Theoretically, you should be able to just replace
> `icalendar-export-region' with `diary-icalendar-export-region'; the
> interface is backward compatible and the new exporter should do a better
> job.
>
> But the new exporter does work differently, so if Org was relying on any
> idiosyncrasies of icalendar.el here, the quick fix is just to wrap with
> `with-suppressed-warnings'.

Do I understand correctly that there are breaking changes? If yes, are
they documented anywhere?

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode maintainer,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>




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I did that with one of the emacs packages with common lips library (saying
that it is being replace by something else) but i have to revert it back.

Sent from Gmail

On Sun, Mar 1, 2026, 16:05 Richard Lawrence <rwl@HIDDEN> wrote=
:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> >> From: badli al rashid <theothernighttheotherday@HIDDEN>
> >> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:04:03 +0800
> >>
> >> i got an warning when compiling emacs for org.el
> >>
> >> ```
> >> In org-diary-to-ical-string:
> >> org/org.el:15013:12: Warning: =E2=80=98icalendar-export-region=E2=80=
=99 is an obsolete
> function (as of 31.1); use
> >> =E2=80=98diary-icalendar-export-region=E2=80=99 instead.
> >> ```
> >
> > Thanks.  Problems with Org should be reported to Org developers first.
> > CC'ing Ihor who might have a quick solution here.
>
> Theoretically, you should be able to just replace
> `icalendar-export-region' with `diary-icalendar-export-region'; the
> interface is backward compatible and the new exporter should do a better
> job.
>
> But the new exporter does work differently, so if Org was relying on any
> idiosyncrasies of icalendar.el here, the quick fix is just to wrap with
> `with-suppressed-warnings'.
>
> --
> Best,
> Richard
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><div>I did that with one of the emacs packages with =
common lips library (saying that it is being replace by something else) but=
 i have to revert it back.</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail=
_signature">Sent from Gmail</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_=
container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 1, 2026, 16:05=
 Richard Lawrence &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rwl@HIDDEN">rwl@recurs=
ewithless.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Eli Za=
retskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt; From: badli al rashid &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:theothernighttheotherd=
ay@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">theothernighttheotherday=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:04:03 +0800<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; i got an warning when compiling emacs for org.el<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; ```<br>
&gt;&gt; In org-diary-to-ical-string:<br>
&gt;&gt; org/org.el:15013:12: Warning: =E2=80=98icalendar-export-region=E2=
=80=99 is an obsolete function (as of 31.1); use<br>
&gt;&gt; =E2=80=98diary-icalendar-export-region=E2=80=99 instead.<br>
&gt;&gt; ```<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks.=C2=A0 Problems with Org should be reported to Org developers f=
irst.<br>
&gt; CC&#39;ing Ihor who might have a quick solution here.<br>
<br>
Theoretically, you should be able to just replace<br>
`icalendar-export-region&#39; with `diary-icalendar-export-region&#39;; the=
<br>
interface is backward compatible and the new exporter should do a better<br=
>
job.<br>
<br>
But the new exporter does work differently, so if Org was relying on any<br=
>
idiosyncrasies of icalendar.el here, the quick fix is just to wrap with<br>
`with-suppressed-warnings&#39;.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Best,<br>
Richard<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: badli al rashid <theothernighttheotherday@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:04:03 +0800
>>=20
>> i got an warning when compiling emacs for org.el
>>=20
>> ```
>> In org-diary-to-ical-string:
>> org/org.el:15013:12: Warning: =E2=80=98icalendar-export-region=E2=80=99 =
is an obsolete function (as of 31.1); use
>> =E2=80=98diary-icalendar-export-region=E2=80=99 instead.
>> ```
>
> Thanks.  Problems with Org should be reported to Org developers first.
> CC'ing Ihor who might have a quick solution here.

Theoretically, you should be able to just replace
`icalendar-export-region' with `diary-icalendar-export-region'; the
interface is backward compatible and the new exporter should do a better
job.

But the new exporter does work differently, so if Org was relying on any
idiosyncrasies of icalendar.el here, the quick fix is just to wrap with
`with-suppressed-warnings'.

--=20
Best,
Richard




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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>
To: badli al rashid <theothernighttheotherday@HIDDEN>,
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Subject: Re: bug#80511: 31.0.50; org.el warning
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> From: badli al rashid <theothernighttheotherday@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2026 11:04:03 +0800
> 
> i got an warning when compiling emacs for org.el
> 
> ```
>   ELC      org/ox-publish.elc
>   ELC      play/5x5.elc
>   ELC      play/animate.elc
> 
> In org-diary-to-ical-string:
> org/org.el:15013:12: Warning: ‘icalendar-export-region’ is an obsolete function (as of 31.1); use
> ‘diary-icalendar-export-region’ instead.
>   ELC      play/blackbox.elc
>   ELC      play/bubbles.elc
>   ELC      play/cookie1.elc
> ```

Thanks.  Problems with Org should be reported to Org developers first.
CC'ing Ihor who might have a quick solution here.




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i got an warning when compiling emacs for org.el

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