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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 5:13=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> w= rote: > One question about 'next-frame-function' remains. 'next-frame' has two > optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME > argument. 'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only. Would it make > sense to give it a MINIFRAME argument too and have 'next-frame-function' > pass two arguments? > I thought it better to unify the API between `next-frame` and `get-mru-other-frame`, the former taking two optional parameters and the latter only one. We could alter the implementation of the underlying `get-mru-frames` to allow minibuffer only frames and unify them that way (even if it will rarely if ever be used). Agree? > > minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D'no-other-frame > parameter is > >> > >> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-frame is what we > >> generally use here. > >> > > > > Done. > > There are still two instances left, one in 'get-mru-frames' and one in > 'get-mru-frame'. > I'll address those in the next iteration. --000000000000a3da95064d8a0760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 5:13=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <<a href=3D"mail= to:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote= " style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);= padding-left:1ex">One question about 'next-frame-function' remains.= =C2=A0 'next-frame' has two<br> optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME<br> argument.=C2=A0 'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only.=C2=A0 = Would it make<br> sense to give it a MINIFRAME argument too and have 'next-frame-function= '<br> pass two arguments?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail= _default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I thought it better to unify the = API between `next-frame` and `get-mru-other-frame`, the former taking two o= ptional parameters and the latter only one.=C2=A0 We could alter the implem= entation of the underlying `get-mru-frames` to allow minibuffer only frames= and unify them that way (even if it will rarely if ever be used).=C2=A0 Ag= ree?</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left= :1ex"> =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D&= #39;no-other-frame parameter is<br> =C2=A0>><br> =C2=A0>> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-f= rame is what we<br> =C2=A0>> generally use here.<br> =C2=A0>><br> =C2=A0><br> =C2=A0> Done.<br> <br> There are still two instances left, one in 'get-mru-frames' and one= in<br> 'get-mru-frame'.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail= _default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I'll address those in the nex= t iteration.</div></div></div> --000000000000a3da95064d8a0760--
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Subject: Re: bug#80621: [PATCH] New option next-frame-function,
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Content preview: On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 5:13 AM martin rudalics wrote: >
One question about 'next-frame-function' remains. 'next-frame' has two >
optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME > argument.
'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only. [...]
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On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 5:13=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
> One question about 'next-frame-function' remains. 'next-frame' has two
> optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME
> argument. 'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only. Would it make
> sense to give it a MINIFRAME argument too and have 'next-frame-function'
> pass two arguments?
>
I thought it better to unify the API between `next-frame` and
`get-mru-other-frame`, the former taking two optional parameters and the
latter only one. We could alter the implementation of the underlying
`get-mru-frames` to allow minibuffer only frames and unify them that way
(even if it will rarely if ever be used). Agree?
> > minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D'no-other-frame
> parameter is
> >>
> >> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-frame is what we
> >> generally use here.
> >>
> >
> > Done.
>
> There are still two instances left, one in 'get-mru-frames' and one in
> 'get-mru-frame'.
>
I'll address those in the next iteration.
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On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 5:13=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <<a href=3D"mail=
to:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">One question about 'next-frame-function' remains.=
=C2=A0 'next-frame' has two<br>
optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME<br>
argument.=C2=A0 'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only.=C2=A0 =
Would it make<br>
sense to give it a MINIFRAME argument too and have 'next-frame-function=
'<br>
pass two arguments?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I thought it better to unify the =
API between `next-frame` and `get-mru-other-frame`, the former taking two o=
ptional parameters and the latter only one.=C2=A0 We could alter the implem=
entation of the underlying `get-mru-frames` to allow minibuffer only frames=
and unify them that way (even if it will rarely if ever be used).=C2=A0 Ag=
ree?</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
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=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D&=
#39;no-other-frame parameter is<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0>> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-f=
rame is what we<br>
=C2=A0>> generally use here.<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0> Done.<br>
<br>
There are still two instances left, one in 'get-mru-frames' and one=
in<br>
'get-mru-frame'.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I'll address those in the nex=
t iteration.</div></div></div>
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debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) One question about 'next-frame-function' remains. 'next-frame' has two optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME argument. 'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only. Would it make sense to give it a MINIFRAME argument too and have 'next-frame-function' pass two arguments? > > minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\='no-other-frame parameter is >> >> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\='no-other-frame is what we >> generally use here. >> > > Done. There are still two instances left, one in 'get-mru-frames' and one in 'get-mru-frame'. martin
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<at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) One question about 'next-frame-function' remains. 'next-frame' has two optional arguments so we probably pass it only the first, the FRAME argument. 'get-mru-other-frame' has one argument only. Would it make sense to give it a MINIFRAME argument too and have 'next-frame-function' pass two arguments? > > minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\='no-other-frame parameter is >> >> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\='no-other-frame is what we >> generally use here. >> > > Done. There are still two instances left, one in 'get-mru-frames' and one in 'get-mru-frame'. martin
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 5:03=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
> >> Also, we should explain
> >> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame'
> and
> >> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to
> >> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.
> >>
> >
> > Done in NEWS and frames.texi.
>
> The description of the arguments is still missing in frames.texi. Also
> in frames.texi I would start the description with
>
> "This option specifies a function ..."
>
Done.
> Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`. Also wordsmithed the documentation=
.
>
> frames.texi now contains the duplicate description:
>
> Tooltip, minibuffer-only, and frames whose @code{no-other-frame}
> parameter (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil} are
> never candidates.
>
> If the optional argument @var{exclude-child-frames} is non-nil, child
> frames are excluded too. The @var{exclude-frame} argument, if present=
,
> excludes the frame it specifies too.
>
> It does not return a frame whose @code{no-other-frame} parameter
> (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil}.
>
Done and expanded the functions' documentation language and form to more
closely match one another.
> Also please try to ensure that a sentence beginning with "It" has the
> corresponding subject in the preceding sentence. So "It does not return
> a frame ..." would IMHO be better written as "This function does not
> return a frame ...".
>
Done.
> > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)
> >> > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.
> >> > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.
> >>
> >> Probably "first".
> >>
> >
> > Not sure what you meant by first. Is saying the most recently used
> frame
> > suggestive of it being the first most recently used?
>
> I meant that it considers frames on the same terminal as FRAME first.
> If none of them qualifies as candidate, it may return FRAME which might
> be on another terminal. IIUC, obviously.
>
Got it.
> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D'no-other-frame parameter =
is
>
> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-frame is what we
> generally use here.
>
Done.
> (not (null (frame-parameter frame
> 'no-other-frame)))
>
> "(not (null " appears redundant here. Right?
>
Removed, duh.
Revision attached. I hope with sufficient clarity and correctness.
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padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0>> Also, we should explain<br>
=C2=A0>> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for '=
;next-frame' and<br>
=C2=A0>> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it'=
;s useful to<br>
=C2=A0>> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0> Done in NEWS and frames.texi.<br>
<br>
The description of the arguments is still missing in frames.texi.=C2=A0 Als=
o<br>
in frames.texi I would start the description with<br>
<br>
"This option specifies a function ..."<br></blockquote><div><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`.=C2=A0 Also wordsmithed the =
documentation.<br>
<br>
frames.texi now contains the duplicate description:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tooltip, minibuffer-only, and frames whose @code{no-other-fram=
e}<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0parameter (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{=
nil} are<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0never candidates.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0If the optional argument @var{exclude-child-frames} is non-nil=
, child<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0frames are excluded too.=C2=A0 The @var{exclude-frame} argumen=
t, if present,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0excludes the frame it specifies too.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0It does not return a frame whose @code{no-other-frame} paramet=
er<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil}.<br><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><fo=
nt face=3D"monospace">Done and expanded the functions' documentation la=
nguage and form to more closely match one another.</font></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif">=C2=A0</span></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
Also please try to ensure that a sentence beginning with "It" has=
the<br>
corresponding subject in the preceding sentence.=C2=A0 So "It does not=
return<br>
a frame ..." would IMHO be better written as "This function does =
not<br>
return a frame ...".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame=
)<br>
=C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return the most recently =
used frame other than FRAME.<br>
=C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Consider frames on the same terminal as FRA=
ME.<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0>> Probably "first".<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0> Not sure what you meant by first.=C2=A0 Is saying the most recen=
tly used frame<br>
=C2=A0> suggestive of it being the first most recently used?<br>
<br>
I meant that it considers frames on the same terminal as FRAME first.<br>
If none of them qualifies as candidate, it may return FRAME which might<br>
be on another terminal.=C2=A0 IIUC, obviously.<br></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Got it.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D'no-other-fram=
e parameter is<br>
<br>
I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-frame is what we=
<br>
generally use here.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(not (null (frame-parameter frame =
'no-other-frame)))<br>
<br>
"(not (null " appears redundant here.=C2=A0 Right?<br></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mon=
ospace">Removed, duh.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:monospace">Revision attached.=C2=A0 I hope with sufficient clarity and =
correctness.</div></div></div>
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Subject: Re: bug#80621: [PATCH] New option next-frame-function,
function get-mru-other-frame
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>
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Content preview: On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 5:03 AM martin rudalics wrote: >
>> Also, we should explain > >> that this function (probably) works as a
substitute for 'next-frame' > and > >> is called by that, what its arguments
will be and why it's useful to > >> override the [...]
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On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 5:03=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
> >> Also, we should explain
> >> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame'
> and
> >> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to
> >> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.
> >>
> >
> > Done in NEWS and frames.texi.
>
> The description of the arguments is still missing in frames.texi. Also
> in frames.texi I would start the description with
>
> "This option specifies a function ..."
>
Done.
> Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`. Also wordsmithed the documentation=
.
>
> frames.texi now contains the duplicate description:
>
> Tooltip, minibuffer-only, and frames whose @code{no-other-frame}
> parameter (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil} are
> never candidates.
>
> If the optional argument @var{exclude-child-frames} is non-nil, child
> frames are excluded too. The @var{exclude-frame} argument, if present=
,
> excludes the frame it specifies too.
>
> It does not return a frame whose @code{no-other-frame} parameter
> (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil}.
>
Done and expanded the functions' documentation language and form to more
closely match one another.
> Also please try to ensure that a sentence beginning with "It" has the
> corresponding subject in the preceding sentence. So "It does not return
> a frame ..." would IMHO be better written as "This function does not
> return a frame ...".
>
Done.
> > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)
> >> > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.
> >> > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.
> >>
> >> Probably "first".
> >>
> >
> > Not sure what you meant by first. Is saying the most recently used
> frame
> > suggestive of it being the first most recently used?
>
> I meant that it considers frames on the same terminal as FRAME first.
> If none of them qualifies as candidate, it may return FRAME which might
> be on another terminal. IIUC, obviously.
>
Got it.
> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D'no-other-frame parameter =
is
>
> I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-frame is what we
> generally use here.
>
Done.
> (not (null (frame-parameter frame
> 'no-other-frame)))
>
> "(not (null " appears redundant here. Right?
>
Removed, duh.
Revision attached. I hope with sufficient clarity and correctness.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">=
On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 5:03=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <<a href=3D"mail=
to:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0>> Also, we should explain<br>
=C2=A0>> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for '=
;next-frame' and<br>
=C2=A0>> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it'=
;s useful to<br>
=C2=A0>> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0> Done in NEWS and frames.texi.<br>
<br>
The description of the arguments is still missing in frames.texi.=C2=A0 Als=
o<br>
in frames.texi I would start the description with<br>
<br>
"This option specifies a function ..."<br></blockquote><div><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`.=C2=A0 Also wordsmithed the =
documentation.<br>
<br>
frames.texi now contains the duplicate description:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Tooltip, minibuffer-only, and frames whose @code{no-other-fram=
e}<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0parameter (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{=
nil} are<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0never candidates.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0If the optional argument @var{exclude-child-frames} is non-nil=
, child<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0frames are excluded too.=C2=A0 The @var{exclude-frame} argumen=
t, if present,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0excludes the frame it specifies too.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0It does not return a frame whose @code{no-other-frame} paramet=
er<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil}.<br><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><fo=
nt face=3D"monospace">Done and expanded the functions' documentation la=
nguage and form to more closely match one another.</font></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif">=C2=A0</span></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
Also please try to ensure that a sentence beginning with "It" has=
the<br>
corresponding subject in the preceding sentence.=C2=A0 So "It does not=
return<br>
a frame ..." would IMHO be better written as "This function does =
not<br>
return a frame ...".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame=
)<br>
=C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return the most recently =
used frame other than FRAME.<br>
=C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0> Consider frames on the same terminal as FRA=
ME.<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0>> Probably "first".<br>
=C2=A0>><br>
=C2=A0><br>
=C2=A0> Not sure what you meant by first.=C2=A0 Is saying the most recen=
tly used frame<br>
=C2=A0> suggestive of it being the first most recently used?<br>
<br>
I meant that it considers frames on the same terminal as FRAME first.<br>
If none of them qualifies as candidate, it may return FRAME which might<br>
be on another terminal.=C2=A0 IIUC, obviously.<br></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Got it.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\=3D'no-other-fram=
e parameter is<br>
<br>
I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\=3D'no-other-frame is what we=
<br>
generally use here.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(not (null (frame-parameter frame =
'no-other-frame)))<br>
<br>
"(not (null " appears redundant here.=C2=A0 Right?<br></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:mon=
ospace">Removed, duh.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:monospace">Revision attached.=C2=A0 I hope with sufficient clarity and =
correctness.</div></div></div>
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>> Also, we should explain
>> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame' and
>> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to
>> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.
>>
>
> Done in NEWS and frames.texi.
The description of the arguments is still missing in frames.texi. Also
in frames.texi I would start the description with
"This option specifies a function ..."
> Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`. Also wordsmithed the documentation.
frames.texi now contains the duplicate description:
Tooltip, minibuffer-only, and frames whose @code{no-other-frame}
parameter (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil} are
never candidates.
If the optional argument @var{exclude-child-frames} is non-nil, child
frames are excluded too. The @var{exclude-frame} argument, if present,
excludes the frame it specifies too.
It does not return a frame whose @code{no-other-frame} parameter
(@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil}.
Also please try to ensure that a sentence beginning with "It" has the
corresponding subject in the preceding sentence. So "It does not return
a frame ..." would IMHO be better written as "This function does not
return a frame ...".
> > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)
>> > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.
>> > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.
>>
>> Probably "first".
>>
>
> Not sure what you meant by first. Is saying the most recently used frame
> suggestive of it being the first most recently used?
I meant that it considers frames on the same terminal as FRAME first.
If none of them qualifies as candidate, it may return FRAME which might
be on another terminal. IIUC, obviously.
> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\='no-other-frame parameter is
I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\='no-other-frame is what we
generally use here.
> (not (null (frame-parameter frame 'no-other-frame)))
"(not (null " appears redundant here. Right?
Thanks, martin
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>> Also, we should explain
>> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame' and
>> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to
>> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.
>>
>
> Done in NEWS and frames.texi.
The description of the arguments is still missing in frames.texi. Also
in frames.texi I would start the description with
"This option specifies a function ..."
> Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`. Also wordsmithed the documentation.
frames.texi now contains the duplicate description:
Tooltip, minibuffer-only, and frames whose @code{no-other-frame}
parameter (@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil} are
never candidates.
If the optional argument @var{exclude-child-frames} is non-nil, child
frames are excluded too. The @var{exclude-frame} argument, if present,
excludes the frame it specifies too.
It does not return a frame whose @code{no-other-frame} parameter
(@pxref{Frame Interaction Parameters}) is non-@code{nil}.
Also please try to ensure that a sentence beginning with "It" has the
corresponding subject in the preceding sentence. So "It does not return
a frame ..." would IMHO be better written as "This function does not
return a frame ...".
> > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)
>> > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.
>> > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.
>>
>> Probably "first".
>>
>
> Not sure what you meant by first. Is saying the most recently used frame
> suggestive of it being the first most recently used?
I meant that it considers frames on the same terminal as FRAME first.
If none of them qualifies as candidate, it may return FRAME which might
be on another terminal. IIUC, obviously.
> minibuffer only frames, and frames whose \\='no-other-frame parameter is
I think `no-other-frame' instead of \\='no-other-frame is what we
generally use here.
> (not (null (frame-parameter frame 'no-other-frame)))
"(not (null " appears redundant here. Right?
Thanks, martin
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Thu, 19 Mar 2026 05:55:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAN+1HbqMqJOxMiyBmn-OevrFnEGqPuUK9seJ+0irs_yxrrParg@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbpTsnku6ujkMAgTJQnR+h2MdDpr6xhhge39LaVShCr4rw@HIDDEN> <D7BE822E-F5AC-4649-B5BF-45FFE7873C1E@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbq8itG-sVnwYW_B0WV1h_-eOWSQ2vCKwmRGA_A14fi8=A@HIDDEN> <CAN+1Hbr5-7S_WZBaqtt_mpZWm8yhMmtrCeqowO2r9ta2=_nung@HIDDEN> <D6257B69-DC94-4B13-B335-01547E85B3AE@HIDDEN> <CAN+1HbrDtrs36WHaJs1iz66U3OBrEaeVRy4MGaKH+cWqF0owhg@HIDDEN> <75a71840-7693-4f78-b463-cd5548db5ad1@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <75a71840-7693-4f78-b463-cd5548db5ad1@HIDDEN> From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane_Marks?= <shipmints@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 08:54:51 -0400 X-Gm-Features: AaiRm53mF6a5yREpOcgeA5rAjXfJCYNH0jTK4zCEYRFiXIYzDrgBOVt11H_8oi4 Message-ID: <CAN+1HbpFrytpHq=-n_P7OW11TdhfnDSip5VYt=jb_nwdZfpfxg@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#80621: [PATCH] New option next-frame-function, function get-mru-other-frame To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000c939f1064d6013d4" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 80621 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, 80621 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --000000000000c939f1064d6013d4 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c939ef064d6013d2" --000000000000c939ef064d6013d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 4:51=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> w= rote: > > Perhaps Martin can take a look. > Thank you for helping. > (defcustom next-frame-function #'next-frame > > "Function to return another frame. > > Return a frame on the same terminal as the selected frame, or the > > selected frame if there is only one frame." > > So far I see no uses for this so I'd rather not install it before at > least one such use case gets installed too. So far, I see three existing candidates for altering calls to next-frame to funcall next-frame-function: `get-other-frame` `merge-frames` `tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame` You and Juri might have others. > Also, we should explain > that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame' and > is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to > override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'. > Done in NEWS and frames.texi. > (defun get-mru-frames (&optional all-frames > > exclude-child-frames > > exclude-frame) > > "Return list of frames sorted by most recent use and filtered by > ALL-FRAMES. > > Compute the result using `frame-use-time', which see. Tooltip and > > minibuffer only frames are never candidates. > > ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either. > Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`. Also wordsmithed the documentation. > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame) > > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME. > > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME. > > Probably "first". > Not sure what you meant by first. Is saying the most recently used frame suggestive of it being the first most recently used? > If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does. > > I suppose "if no suitable other frame is found" ... > Done. (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame) > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME. > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME. > If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does. > Tooltip and minibuffer-only frames are never candidates." > > ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either. > Done. Revised patch attached. -St=C3=A9phane --000000000000c939ef064d6013d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 4:51=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <<a href=3D"mail= to:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote= " style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);= padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0> Perhaps Martin can take a look.<br></blockquot= e><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">Thank you for helping.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f= amily:monospace"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex= "> =C2=A0> (defcustom next-frame-function #'next-frame<br> =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Function to return another frame.<br> =C2=A0> Return a frame on the same terminal as the selected frame, or th= e<br> =C2=A0> selected frame if there is only one frame."<br> <br> So far I see no uses for this so I'd rather not install it before at<br= > least one such use case gets installed too. </blockquote><div><br></div><di= v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">So far, I se= e three existing candidates for altering=C2=A0calls to next-frame to funcal= l next-frame-function:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami= ly:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:m= onospace">`get-other-frame`</div><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace">`merge-frames`</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"= style=3D"font-family:monospace">`tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame`</div><div clas= s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D= "gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">You and Juri might have oth= ers.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><spa= n style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></div><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:= 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Also, we should explain<br> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame'= ; and<br> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to<br= > override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.<br></blockquote><di= v><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">Done in NEWS and frames.texi.</div></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul= t" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gma= il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2= 04,204);padding-left:1ex"> =C2=A0> (defun get-mru-frames (&optional all-frames<br> =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 exclude-child-frame= s<br> =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 exclude-frame)<br> =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return list of frames sorted by most recent us= e and filtered by ALL-FRAMES.<br> =C2=A0> Compute the result using `frame-use-time', which see.=C2=A0 = Tooltip and<br> =C2=A0> minibuffer only frames are never candidates.<br> <br> ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either.<br></blockquote><div><br></= div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Updated he= re and in `get-mru-frame`.=C2=A0 Also wordsmithed the documentation.</div><= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:= 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> =C2=A0> (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)<br> =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return the most recently used frame other than= FRAME.<br> =C2=A0> Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.<br> <br> Probably "first".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class= =3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Not sure what you meant = by first.=C2=A0 Is saying the most recently used frame suggestive of it bei= ng the first most recently used?</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r= gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> =C2=A0> If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' doe= s.<br> <br> I suppose "if no suitable other frame is found" ...<br></blockquo= te><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospa= ce">Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"= ><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.= 8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.<br= > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.<br> If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does.<br> Tooltip and minibuffer-only frames are never candidates."<br> <br> ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either.<br></blockquote><div><br></= div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</div= ><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><di= v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Revised patch att= ached.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><b= r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">-St=C3= =A9phane=C2=A0</div></div></div> --000000000000c939ef064d6013d2-- --000000000000c939f1064d6013d4 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; 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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 4:51=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> w=
rote:
> > Perhaps Martin can take a look.
>
Thank you for helping.
> (defcustom next-frame-function #'next-frame
> > "Function to return another frame.
> > Return a frame on the same terminal as the selected frame, or the
> > selected frame if there is only one frame."
>
> So far I see no uses for this so I'd rather not install it before at
> least one such use case gets installed too.
So far, I see three existing candidates for altering calls to next-frame to
funcall next-frame-function:
`get-other-frame`
`merge-frames`
`tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame`
You and Juri might have others.
> Also, we should explain
> that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame' and
> is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to
> override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.
>
Done in NEWS and frames.texi.
> (defun get-mru-frames (&optional all-frames
> > exclude-child-frames
> > exclude-frame)
> > "Return list of frames sorted by most recent use and filtered by
> ALL-FRAMES.
> > Compute the result using `frame-use-time', which see. Tooltip and
> > minibuffer only frames are never candidates.
>
> ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either.
>
Updated here and in `get-mru-frame`. Also wordsmithed the documentation.
> (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)
> > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.
> > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.
>
> Probably "first".
>
Not sure what you meant by first. Is saying the most recently used frame
suggestive of it being the first most recently used?
> If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does.
>
> I suppose "if no suitable other frame is found" ...
>
Done.
(defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)
> "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.
> Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.
> If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does.
> Tooltip and minibuffer-only frames are never candidates."
>
> ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either.
>
Done.
Revised patch attached.
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 4:51=E2=80=AFAM martin rudalics <<a href=3D"mail=
to:rudalics@HIDDEN">rudalics@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0> Perhaps Martin can take a look.<br></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">Thank you for helping.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:monospace"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
">
=C2=A0> (defcustom next-frame-function #'next-frame<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Function to return another frame.<br>
=C2=A0> Return a frame on the same terminal as the selected frame, or th=
e<br>
=C2=A0> selected frame if there is only one frame."<br>
<br>
So far I see no uses for this so I'd rather not install it before at<br=
>
least one such use case gets installed too. </blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">So far, I se=
e three existing candidates for altering=C2=A0calls to next-frame to funcal=
l next-frame-function:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:m=
onospace">`get-other-frame`</div><span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:monospace">`merge-frames`</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
style=3D"font-family:monospace">`tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame`</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">You and Juri might have oth=
ers.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Also, we should explain<br>
that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame'=
; and<br>
is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to<br=
>
override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'.<br></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e">Done in NEWS and frames.texi.</div></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> (defun get-mru-frames (&optional all-frames<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 exclude-child-frame=
s<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 exclude-frame)<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return list of frames sorted by most recent us=
e and filtered by ALL-FRAMES.<br>
=C2=A0> Compute the result using `frame-use-time', which see.=C2=A0 =
Tooltip and<br>
=C2=A0> minibuffer only frames are never candidates.<br>
<br>
... and 'no-other-frame' frames either.<br></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Updated he=
re and in `get-mru-frame`.=C2=A0 Also wordsmithed the documentation.</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)<br>
=C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return the most recently used frame other than=
FRAME.<br>
=C2=A0> Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.<br>
<br>
Probably "first".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Not sure what you meant =
by first.=C2=A0 Is saying the most recently used frame suggestive of it bei=
ng the first most recently used?</div></div><div><br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0> If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' doe=
s.<br>
<br>
I suppose "if no suitable other frame is found" ...<br></blockquo=
te><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospa=
ce">Done.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"=
><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
(defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME.<br=
>
Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME.<br>
If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does.<br>
Tooltip and minibuffer-only frames are never candidates."<br>
<br>
... and 'no-other-frame' frames either.<br></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Done.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Revised patch att=
ached.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">-St=C3=
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<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Perhaps Martin can take a look. > (defcustom next-frame-function #'next-frame > "Function to return another frame. > Return a frame on the same terminal as the selected frame, or the > selected frame if there is only one frame." So far I see no uses for this so I'd rather not install it before at least one such use case gets installed too. Also, we should explain that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame' and is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'. > (defun get-mru-frames (&optional all-frames > exclude-child-frames > exclude-frame) > "Return list of frames sorted by most recent use and filtered by ALL-FRAMES. > Compute the result using `frame-use-time', which see. Tooltip and > minibuffer only frames are never candidates. ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either. > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame) > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME. > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME. Probably "first". > If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does. I suppose "if no suitable other frame is found" ... (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame) "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME. Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME. If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does. Tooltip and minibuffer-only frames are never candidates." ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either. martin
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<mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > Perhaps Martin can take a look. > (defcustom next-frame-function #'next-frame > "Function to return another frame. > Return a frame on the same terminal as the selected frame, or the > selected frame if there is only one frame." So far I see no uses for this so I'd rather not install it before at least one such use case gets installed too. Also, we should explain that this function (probably) works as a substitute for 'next-frame' and is called by that, what its arguments will be and why it's useful to override the standard behavior of 'next-frame'. > (defun get-mru-frames (&optional all-frames > exclude-child-frames > exclude-frame) > "Return list of frames sorted by most recent use and filtered by ALL-FRAMES. > Compute the result using `frame-use-time', which see. Tooltip and > minibuffer only frames are never candidates. ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either. > (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame) > "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME. > Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME. Probably "first". > If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does. I suppose "if no suitable other frame is found" ... (defun get-mru-other-frame (&optional frame) "Return the most recently used frame other than FRAME. Consider frames on the same terminal as FRAME. If there is only one frame, return FRAME as `next-frame' does. Tooltip and minibuffer-only frames are never candidates." ... and 'no-other-frame' frames either. martin
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Will you also change 'merge-frames' a= s > well? > >> > >> Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs once th= is > >> is installed. > > > >I don't have commit rights so I can't do this on my own. > > Sorry, I won't able to commit patches for indefinite time. Perhaps Martin can take a look. --000000000000608dcf064d50bdfe Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <<a href=3D"mailto:j= uri@HIDDEN">juri@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class= =3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st= yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd= ing-left:1ex">>>> >Patch attached.<br> >>><br> >>> Thanks, looks good to install.=C2=A0 Will you also change '= ;merge-frames' as well?<br> >><br> >> Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs= once this<br> >> is installed.<br> ><br> >I don't have commit rights so I can't do this on my own.<br> <br> Sorry, I won't able to commit patches for indefinite time.</blockquote>= <div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"= >Perhaps Martin can take a look.</div></div></div> --000000000000608dcf064d50bdfe--
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>> Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs=
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>> is installed.<br>
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>I don't have commit rights so I can't do this on my own.<br>
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Sorry, I won't able to commit patches for indefinite time.</blockquote>=
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>Perhaps Martin can take a look.</div></div></div>
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:08=E2=80=AFPM St=C3=A9phane Marks <shipmints@gma= il.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> wr= ote: > >> >> The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on th= e >> >> same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to >> alter >> >> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default frame2 >> selection, >> >> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame. It defaults to >> >> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-mru-other-frame'= , >> or >> >> to a custom function. >> > >> >Patch attached. >> >> Thanks, looks good to install. Will you also change 'merge-frames' as >> well? >> > > Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs once this > is installed. > I don't have commit rights so I can't do this on my own. --0000000000007a516a064d4eb7ba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:08=E2=80=AFPM St=C3=A9phane Marks <<a href=3D= "mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div= ></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg= b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div sty= le=3D"font-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,san= s-serif">On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <<a href= =3D"mailto:juri@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">juri@HIDDEN</a>> wrote= :</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2= 04);padding-left:1ex">>> The new user option 'next-frame-function= ' returns another frame on the<br> >> same terminal as the selected frame.=C2=A0 It can be used, for exa= mple, to alter<br> >> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default f= rame2 selection,<br> >> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame.=C2=A0= It defaults to<br> >> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-m= ru-other-frame', or<br> >> to a custom function.<br> ><br> >Patch attached.<br> <br> Thanks, looks good to install.=C2=A0 Will you also change 'merge-frames= ' as well?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:mon= ospace">Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs= once this is installed.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div = class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">I don't have co= mmit rights so I can't do this on my own.</div></div></div> --0000000000007a516a064d4eb7ba--
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il.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> wr=
ote:
>
>> >> The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on th=
e
>> >> same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to
>> alter
>> >> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default frame2
>> selection,
>> >> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame. It defaults to
>> >> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-mru-other-frame'=
,
>> or
>> >> to a custom function.
>> >
>> >Patch attached.
>>
>> Thanks, looks good to install. Will you also change 'merge-frames' as
>> well?
>>
>
> Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs once this
> is installed.
>
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> wrot= e: > >> The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on the > >> same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to > alter > >> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default frame2 > selection, > >> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame. It defaults to > >> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-mru-other-frame', > or > >> to a custom function. > > > >Patch attached. > > Thanks, looks good to install. Will you also change 'merge-frames' as > well? > Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs once this is installed. --00000000000067c757064d3a8b45 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <<a href=3D"mailto:= juri@HIDDEN">juri@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div clas= s=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad= ding-left:1ex">>> The new user option 'next-frame-function' r= eturns another frame on the<br> >> same terminal as the selected frame.=C2=A0 It can be used, for exa= mple, to alter<br> >> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default f= rame2 selection,<br> >> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame.=C2=A0= It defaults to<br> >> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-m= ru-other-frame', or<br> >> to a custom function.<br> ><br> >Patch attached.<br> <br> Thanks, looks good to install.=C2=A0 Will you also change 'merge-frames= ' as well?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" = style=3D"font-family:monospace">Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-f= rame under separate bugs once this is installed.</div></div></div> --00000000000067c757064d3a8b45--
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e:
> >> The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on the
> >> same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to
> alter
> >> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default frame2
> selection,
> >> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame. It defaults to
> >> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-mru-other-frame',
> or
> >> to a custom function.
> >
> >Patch attached.
>
> Thanks, looks good to install. Will you also change 'merge-frames' as
> well?
>
Yes. And I'll do tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame under separate bugs once this is
installed.
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Juri Linkov <<a href=3D"mailto:=
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ding-left:1ex">>> The new user option 'next-frame-function' r=
eturns another frame on the<br>
>> same terminal as the selected frame.=C2=A0 It can be used, for exa=
mple, to alter<br>
>> the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default f=
rame2 selection,<br>
>> or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame.=C2=A0=
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>> 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-m=
ru-other-frame', or<br>
>> to a custom function.<br>
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>Patch attached.<br>
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boundary="000000000000dcfdb3064d2810dd" --000000000000dcfdb3064d2810dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 2:03=E2=80=AFPM St=C3=A9phane Marks <shipmints@gmai= l.com> wrote: > The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on the > same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to alt= er > the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default frame2 selection= , > or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame. It defaults to > 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-mru-other-frame', or > to a custom function. > > This patch also tweaks 'get-mru-frames' to exclude frames with non-nil > parameter 'no-other-frame' (as Martin predicted). > > Patch incoming once a bug number is assigned. > Patch attached. --000000000000dcfdb3064d2810dd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 2:03=E2=80=AFPM St=C3=A9phane Marks <<a href=3D"= mailto:shipmints@HIDDEN">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div>= </div><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D= "gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2= 04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:mo= nospace">The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another = frame on the same terminal as the selected frame.=C2=A0 It can be used, for= example, to alter the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames'= default frame2 selection, or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default t= arget frame.=C2=A0 It defaults to 'next-frame' and can be set to th= e new function 'get-mru-other-frame', or to a custom function.</div= ><div style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:m= onospace">This patch also tweaks 'get-mru-frames' to exclude frames= with non-nil parameter 'no-other-frame' (as Martin predicted).<br>= <br>Patch incoming once a bug number is assigned.<br></div></div></blockquo= te><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospa= ce">Patch attached.</div></div></div> --000000000000dcfdb3064d2810dd-- --000000000000dcfdb4064d2810df Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="0001-New-option-next-frame-function-function-get-mru-othe.patch" Content-Disposition: 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on the same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to alter the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' defau [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (shipmints[at]gmail.com) 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.0 FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD 'From' gmail.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2001:470:142:0:0:0:0:17 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>, Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) --0000000000009675fa064d2806ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame on the same terminal as the selected frame. It can be used, for example, to alter the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' default frame2 selection, or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target frame. It defaults to 'next-frame' and can be set to the new function 'get-mru-other-frame', or to a custom function. This patch also tweaks 'get-mru-frames' to exclude frames with non-nil parameter 'no-other-frame' (as Martin predicted). Patch incoming once a bug number is assigned. -St=C3=A9phane --0000000000009675fa064d2806ba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospac= e">The new user option 'next-frame-function' returns another frame = on the same terminal as the selected frame.=C2=A0 It can be used, for examp= le, to alter the behavior of functions such as 'merge-frames' defau= lt frame2 selection, or 'tab-bar-move-tab-to-frame' default target = frame.=C2=A0 It defaults to 'next-frame' and can be set to the new = function 'get-mru-other-frame', or to a custom function.</div><div = class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace"><br></div><div clas= s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">This patch also tweaks = 'get-mru-frames' to exclude frames with non-nil parameter 'no-o= ther-frame' (as Martin predicted).<br><br>Patch incoming once a bug num= ber is assigned.<br><br>-St=C3=A9phane</div></div> --0000000000009675fa064d2806ba--
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