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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 3:38=E2=80=AFPM Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@HIDDEN> w= rote: > St=C3=A9phane Marks <shipmints@HIDDEN> writes: > > > On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports = for GNU > > Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> > wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> Some (mostly) new libraries still need to be assigned to a package > >> in `package--builtins'. > >> > >> 4. Should new markdown-ts-mode-x.el really be a separate package, > >> or should it be part of markdown-ts-mode? > >> > > > > That separation was intentional as we plan to add additional optional > > features into that companion "extras" package and not burden mere "view= " > > users with extra code or dependencies. > > The separation into two libraries accomplishes that. Additionally > separating the libraries into two packages isn't really necessary > (as long as this/these are not also distributed on GNU ELPA). Not > saying two packages is wrong per se; just trying to make sure this > was considered and that an informed decision was made. > Yep. I took the interest in this as genuine. --0000000000002901fe0651539cc0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 3:38=E2=80=AFPM Jonas Bernoulli <<a href=3D"mailt= o:jonas@HIDDEN">jonas@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div = class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)= ;padding-left:1ex">St=C3=A9phane Marks <<a href=3D"mailto:shipmints@gmai= l.com" target=3D"_blank">shipmints@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br> <br> > On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports= for GNU<br> > Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <<a href=3D"mailto:bug-= gnu-emacs@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<b= r> ><br> >> Hello,<br> >><br> >> Some (mostly) new libraries still need to be assigned to a package= <br> >> in `package--builtins'.<br> >><br> >> 4. Should new markdown-ts-mode-x.el really be a separate package,<= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 or should it be part of markdown-ts-mode?<br> >><br> ><br> > That separation was intentional as we plan to add additional optional<= br> > features into that companion "extras" package and not burden= mere "view"<br> > users with extra code or dependencies.<br> <br> The separation into two libraries accomplishes that.=C2=A0 Additionally<br> separating the libraries into two packages isn't really necessary<br> (as long as this/these are not also distributed on GNU ELPA).=C2=A0 Not<br> saying two packages is wrong per se; just trying to make sure this<br> was considered and that an informed decision was made.<br></blockquote><div= ><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace">Yep= .=C2=A0 I took the interest in this as genuine.</div></div></div> --0000000000002901fe0651539cc0--
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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for = GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> wrote: > Hello, > > Some (mostly) new libraries still need to be assigned to a package > in `package--builtins'. > > 4. Should new markdown-ts-mode-x.el really be a separate package, > or should it be part of markdown-ts-mode? > That separation was intentional as we plan to add additional optional features into that companion "extras" package and not burden mere "view" users with extra code or dependencies. --0000000000009b4271065152f458 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">= On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 2:41=E2=80=AFPM Jonas Bernoulli via Bug reports for = GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors <<a href=3D"mailto:bug-g= nu-emacs@HIDDEN">bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><d= iv class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2= 04);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br> <br> Some (mostly) new libraries still need to be assigned to a package<br> in `package--builtins'.<br><br> 4. Should new markdown-ts-mode-x.el really be a separate package,<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0or should it be part of markdown-ts-mode?<br></blockquote><div= ><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace= ">That separation was intentional as we plan to add additional optional fea= tures into that companion=C2=A0"extras" package and not burden me= re "view" users with extra code or dependencies.</div></div><div>= =C2=A0</div></div></div> --0000000000009b4271065152f458--
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Hello,
Some (mostly) new libraries still need to be assigned to a package
in `package--builtins'.
1. New icalendar-{ast,macs,mode,parser,recur,shortdoc,utils}.el
should probably be part of icalendar.
2. Old diary-lib.el should be part of calendar. The library
commentary of calendar.el already says that this is the case.
3. Should new diary-icalendar.el be a separate package or should
be part of of icalendar?
4. Should new markdown-ts-mode-x.el really be a separate package,
or should it be part of markdown-ts-mode?
5. Should new package-activate.el be part of package?
Cheers,
Jonas
Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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