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I'm updating my cjk-enc.el package (part of the CJK bundle for LaTeX)
to replace make-coding-system with define-coding-system.  However, I
can't debug it.

In previous Emacs versions, I've instrumented the function used for
the pre-write-conversion hook, and the debugger correctly stops there.
However, with a recent Emacs (bzr version 103411 from today) this no
longer works.  Is this a bug?  Am I missing something?

Here's an example, defining an encoding called `foo-coding'.  Trying
to instrument `foo-encode', then saving an arbitrary test file with
`foo-coding', the debugger doesn't get invoked.


(define-coding-system
  'foo-coding
  "Coding-system foo"
  :mnemonic ?c
  :coding-type 'emacs-mule
  :charset-list '(ascii)
  :pre-write-conversion 'foo-encode)

(defun foo-encode (from to)
  (insert "foo"))


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Any takers?  The very problem is that cjk-enc.el, after being adapted
to define-coding-system, completely fails: I no longer get any
reasonable output, and all CJK characters disappear in the output.
But without being able to debug I can't tell what and where exactly it
is failing...

Maybe there is a simple workaround?


    Werner

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> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:48:19 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@HIDDEN>
> 
> 
> Any takers?

I don't know enough about Edebug to help you understand why it doesn't
get activated.  However, if you can tell which version of Emacs was
last that did invoke the debugger, I could try looking for the changes
that could have caused that.  E.g., does that work in Emacs 23.x?

> The very problem is that cjk-enc.el, after being adapted
> to define-coding-system, completely fails: I no longer get any
> reasonable output, and all CJK characters disappear in the output.
> But without being able to debug I can't tell what and where exactly it
> is failing...

Are you comfortable with debugging on the C level, or does the
solution have to be on the Lisp level?

If the former, it looks like the pre-write-conversion function is
invoked in this fragment from encode_coding_object:

	args[0] = CODING_ATTR_PRE_WRITE (attrs);
	args[1] = make_number (BEG);
	args[2] = make_number (Z);
	safe_call (3, args);

By stepping into the safe_call function, then into Funcall that it
calls, you should be able to see how the Lisp interpreter runs the
code of you pre-write-conversion function and where it fails.  It is
less convenient than debugging in Lisp, but you still should be able
to display all the forms that are being evaluated, show the Lisp
backtrace with "xbacktrace", and even step into C-level primitives you
invoke from your pre-write-conversion function, something you cannot
do from Lisp.

Alternatively, maybe post here the code of your pre-write-conversion
function, perhaps someone will be able to find the problem just by
looking at the code.

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> I don't know enough about Edebug to help you understand why it
> doesn't get activated.

The problem has been solved meanwhile, thanks to Hin-Tak Leung who
kindly revised `cjk-enc.el'.  It is not a bug in Emacs, but
`char-charset' and `split-char' work differently in Emacs 23 and
newer, and I missed this change.

Please close this bug report as invalid.


    Werner

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I'm updating my cjk-enc.el package (part of the CJK bundle for LaTeX)
to replace make-coding-system with define-coding-system.  However, I
can't debug it.

In previous Emacs versions, I've instrumented the function used for
the pre-write-conversion hook, and the debugger correctly stops there.
However, with a recent Emacs (bzr version 103411 from today) this no
longer works.  Is this a bug?  Am I missing something?

Here's an example, defining an encoding called `foo-coding'.  Trying
to instrument `foo-encode', then saving an arbitrary test file with
`foo-coding', the debugger doesn't get invoked.


(define-coding-system
  'foo-coding
  "Coding-system foo"
  :mnemonic ?c
  :coding-type 'emacs-mule
  :charset-list '(ascii)
  :pre-write-conversion 'foo-encode)

(defun foo-encode (from to)
  (insert "foo"))


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 of 2011-02-24 on linux-nvf0.site
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10903000
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  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=none
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Summary

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
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I'm updating my cjk-enc.el package (part of the CJK bundle for LaTeX)
to replace make-coding-system with define-coding-system.  However, I
can't debug it.

In previous Emacs versions, I've instrumented the function used for
the pre-write-conversion hook, and the debugger correctly stops there.
However, with a recent Emacs (bzr version 103411 from today) this no
longer works.  Is this a bug?  Am I missing something?

Here's an example, defining an encoding called `foo-coding'.  Trying
to instrument `foo-encode', then saving an arbitrary test file with
`foo-coding', the debugger doesn't get invoked.


(define-coding-system
  'foo-coding
  "Coding-system foo"
  :mnemonic ?c
  :coding-type 'emacs-mule
  :charset-list '(ascii)
  :pre-write-conversion 'foo-encode)

(defun foo-encode (from to)
  (insert "foo"))


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unarchive 8108
reopen 8108
thanks

> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:51:58 +0100 (CET)
> From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@HIDDEN>
> Cc: handa@HIDDEN
> 
> please re-open https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8108 –

Done.

> Any help here is highly appreciated :-)

I suggested some ways of investigating this back then, please see the
followups to your OP.

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Werner LEMBERG <wl@HIDDEN> writes:

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> I'm updating my cjk-enc.el package (part of the CJK bundle for LaTeX)
> to replace make-coding-system with define-coding-system.  However, I
> can't debug it.
>
> In previous Emacs versions, I've instrumented the function used for
> the pre-write-conversion hook, and the debugger correctly stops there.
> However, with a recent Emacs (bzr version 103411 from today) this no
> longer works.  Is this a bug?  Am I missing something?

Not sure which version this corresponds to, but in [1]
encode_coding_object started using safe_call instead of a plain call to
run the pre-write-conversion function.  safe_call intentionally disables
the debugger while running the function:

      /* Use Qt to ensure debugger does not run,
         so there is no possibility of wanting to redisplay.  */
      val = internal_condition_case_n (Ffuncall, nargs, args, Qt,
                                       safe_eval_handler);


[1]: Tue Mar 29 00:34:38 2005
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=d4850d674381d9493c94d30f8944a765e79537eb
(decode_coding_object): Use safe_call1 instead of call1.
(encode_coding_object): Use safe_call instead of call2.

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>> I'm updating my cjk-enc.el package (part of the CJK bundle for
>> LaTeX) to replace make-coding-system with define-coding-system.
>> However, I can't debug it.
> 
> Not sure which version this corresponds to, but in [1]
> encode_coding_object started using safe_call instead of a plain call
> to run the pre-write-conversion function.  safe_call intentionally
> disables the debugger while running the function:
> 
>       /* Use Qt to ensure debugger does not run,
>          so there is no possibility of wanting to redisplay.  */
>       val = internal_condition_case_n (Ffuncall, nargs, args, Qt,
>                                        safe_eval_handler);
> 
> [1]: Tue Mar 29 00:34:38 2005
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=d4850d674381d9493c94d30f8944a765e79537eb
> (decode_coding_object): Use safe_call1 instead of call1.
> (encode_coding_object): Use safe_call instead of call2.

Thanks for checking.  Ken'ichi, can you shed some light why you
changed this?  How shall I proceed?


    Werner

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