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charset="UTF-8" Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> schrieb am Sa., 30. Mai 2026, 11:26: > > From: Marco Wahl <marco.wahl@HIDDEN> > > Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 07:58:50 +0200 > > > > in the info documentation about erts > > > > (info "(ert) erts files") > > > > there is this example for a Code:-section: > > > > Code: (indent-region > > (point-min) (point-max)) > > > > this should rather be > > > > Code: (lambda () > > (emacs-lisp-mode) > > (indent-region (point-min) (point-max))) > > > > > > . btw this code can already be found in the info a few lines above in > > the example call of ert-test-erts-file. > > Thanks. AFAIU, that's just an example, not a working code snippet, so > why is it important to change it? > the reader of the info-section gets a working example! otherwise she might get the (wrong) impression that she can write the action-code for the test just like that: (indent-region ...) but actually something callable is needed. the programmer most likely will find that out, but i think it's nicer not to have to investigate that issue when starting with erts-test. --000000000000cd1277065306160b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><div>Eli Zaretskii <<a href=3D"mailto:eliz@HIDDEN= g">eliz@HIDDEN</a>> schrieb am Sa., 30. Mai 2026, 11:26:</div><div clas= s=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">>= From: Marco Wahl <<a href=3D"mailto:marco.wahl@HIDDEN" target=3D"_bl= ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">marco.wahl@HIDDEN</a>><br> > Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 07:58:50 +0200<br> > <br> > in the info documentation about erts<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(info "(ert) erts files")<br> > <br> > there is this example for a Code:-section:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Code: (indent-region<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (point-min) (point-max= ))<br> > <br> > this should rather be<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Code: (lambda ()<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (emacs-lisp-mode)<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (indent-region (point-= min) (point-max)))<br> > <br> > <br> > . btw this code can already be found in the info a few lines above in<= br> > the example call of ert-test-erts-file.<br> <br> Thanks.=C2=A0 AFAIU, that's just an example, not a working code snippet= , so<br> why is it important to change it?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"a= uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">the reader of the info-section gets a work= ing example!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">otherwise s= he might get the (wrong) impression that she can write the action-code for = the test just like that: (indent-region ...)</div><div dir=3D"auto">but act= ually something callable is needed.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d= ir=3D"auto">the programmer most likely will find that out, but i think it&#= 39;s nicer not to have to investigate that issue when starting with erts-te= st.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir= =3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote clas= s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad= ding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div></div> --000000000000cd1277065306160b--
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Subject: 32.0.50; bug in info about erts Code:-section
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Content preview: in the info documentation about erts (info "(ert) erts
files") there is this example for a Code:-section:
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in the info documentation about erts
(info "(ert) erts files")
there is this example for a Code:-section:
Code: (indent-region
(point-min) (point-max))
this should rather be
Code: (lambda ()
(emacs-lisp-mode)
(indent-region (point-min) (point-max)))
. btw this code can already be found in the info a few lines above in
the example call of ert-test-erts-file.
Marco Wahl <marco.wahl@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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