Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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On > Windows, the Emacs menus are implemented in a way that has this > unfortunate side effect: we basically preempt the Emacs command loop > for as long as the menu stays open. >=20 > If someone wants to redesign how Emacs menus are implemented on > Windows, I think that would be very welcome. But until that happens, > this is Emacs "functioning as designed", not some easily-fixed bug. Thanks for this info. I guess the bug can then either be closed or kept open in the wishlist, the fix needing redesign etc. I wonder if this effect should be mentioned in the manual?
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#8116; Package emacs.
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Yet another snarky disparagement. Not helpful. Follows on your "since Drew can't be bothered" to send a patch - when the bug report provided the exact replacement for the single function that needed to be replaced.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#8116; Package emacs.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > You won't be able to see this on any system but MS-Windows. On > Windows, the Emacs menus are implemented in a way that has this > unfortunate side effect: we basically preempt the Emacs command loo [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8116 Cc: 8116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > You won't be able to see this on any system but MS-Windows. On > Windows, the Emacs menus are implemented in a way that has this > unfortunate side effect: we basically preempt the Emacs command loop > for as long as the menu stays open. Ah, I see. I'll rename the bug report to be more specific, then. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: >> Do you have a test case that demonstrates the problem? > > The problem is specified in the bug report. A test case makes it much more likely that somebody will take the effort to poke at this problem. Without a test case, that somebody will first have to come up with one themselves. 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A test case makes it much more likely that somebody will take the effort to poke at this problem. Without a test case, that somebody will first have to come up with one themselves. But if you're not interested in being helpful, that's fine, of course. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The problem is specified in the bug report. Whether the situation is problematic in the same way as when the problem was reported, 10 years ago, someone who uses Emacs 27 or the incipient 28 can investigate.
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Subject: Re: bug#8116: 24.0.50;
`minibuffer-message': ignore mouse-up event for `sit-for'?
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> If you pop up a menu (e.g. using `x-popup-menu') and one of its items
> calls `minibuffer-message', the user will never see the message,
> presumably because the call to `sit-for' in `minibuffer-message' sees
> the mouse-up event (from choosing the menu item) as user input,
> canceling the `sit-for' timeout.
> Seems like we should be able to make this work somehow. Perhaps
Agreed. I think the way to attack this is elsewhere, tho: the mouse-up
should be eaten up by the menu code.
Stefan
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2011 16:51:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 25 11:51:38 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Pt0tG-0006Fe-ES for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Pt0tE-0006FU-Se for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Pt0t8-0006P0-6k for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:32 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:50561) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Pt0t8-0006Ov-4F for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:30 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37169 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pt0t0-0000Sp-Vc for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Pt0sw-0006Ly-5C for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:22 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:23656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1Pt0sv-0006Lf-Te for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:51:18 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p1PGpEWY007631 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:51:16 GMT Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p1P8cTHS017151 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:51:12 GMT Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1087850251298652617; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:50:17 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.35.130) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:50:16 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> Subject: 24.0.50; `minibuffer-message': ignore mouse-up event for `sit-for'? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:50:15 -0800 Message-ID: <8EE02E84A03B4AE989E34EA52C6969CB@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvVDBOdg8IJI0tjSxajIZZhVVMHWQ== X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4D67DE01.01FE:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 199.232.76.165 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) If you pop up a menu (e.g. using `x-popup-menu') and one of its items calls `minibuffer-message', the user will never see the message, presumably because the call to `sit-for' in `minibuffer-message' sees the mouse-up event (from choosing the menu item) as user input, canceling the `sit-for' timeout. Seems like we should be able to make this work somehow. Perhaps `sit-for' could accept an optional arg listing a set of events to ignore, and `minibuffer-message' could then call it with mouse-up in that list? But should _all_ uses of `minibuffer-message' ignore `mouse-up' events wrt the timeout? Dunno. Sounds doubtful. Still, this seems like something we should be able to handle, so that users can see a message associated with a menu item. Example use: A user chooses a menu item to cycle some variable/behavior (e.g. a sort order) to the next possible value, and the action ends with a message echoing what the new value is. Currently, the user can do this over and over without ever seeing what the new value is each time. In some contexts it might not be convenient for the user to stop the overall interaction just to interrogate the value. That is, use of the popup menu might be only one link in a chain of user interactions. One possibility might be to move the `sit-for' out of `minibuffer-message', making the calling code be responsible for it instead. That would be analogous to the way `message' is used. But I'm not sure how that would affect other things - perhaps it is important that `minibuffer-message' calls `sit-for' itself. Dunno. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2011-02-14 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include'
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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