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31.0.91; dframe-update-speed specifies :type integer

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Daniel Mendler <mail@HIDDEN>
>> Cc: 81560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 19:26:13 +0200
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> 
>> >> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 17:42:10 +0200
>> >> From: Daniel Mendler via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>> >>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>> >> 
>> >> The speedbar uses the customizable variable `dframe-update-speed' to
>> >> check for updates. This variable has variable :type `integer' but
>> >> shorter delays are supported, e.g., 0.5. I suggest to change the
>> >> variable :type to `number'.
>> >
>> > Actually, 'number' is also inaccurate: the value can be in the format
>> > of the value returned by current-idle-time, because the value is
>> > passed to run-with-idle-timer.
>> 
>> So is there a type which you think is appropriate?
>
> If we change no other code, then perhaps allowing a list of
> appropriate lengths in addition to a number?  IOW, a custom validation
> function.

I think the type number is appropriate. There are plenty of examples...

(defcustom eldoc-idle-delay 0.50
  "Number of seconds of idle time to wait before displaying documentation.
If user input arrives before this interval of time has elapsed after the
last input event, no documentation will be displayed.

If this variable is set to 0, display the documentation without any delay."
  :type 'number)

(defcustom show-paren-delay 0.125
  "Time in seconds to delay before showing a matching paren.
If you change this without using customize while `show-paren-mode' is
active, you must toggle the mode off and on again for this to take effect."
  :type '(number :tag "seconds")
  :initialize 'custom-initialize-default
  :set (lambda (sym val)
	 (if (not show-paren-mode)
	     (set sym val)
	   (show-paren-mode -1)
	   (set sym val)
	   (show-paren-mode 1))))

(defcustom blink-cursor-delay 0.5
  "Seconds of idle time before the first blink of the cursor.
Values smaller than 0.2 sec are treated as 0.2 sec."
  :type 'number
  :group 'cursor
  :set (lambda (symbol value)
         (set-default symbol value)
         (when blink-cursor-idle-timer (blink-cursor--start-idle-timer))))

(defcustom blink-cursor-interval 0.5
  "Length of cursor blink interval in seconds."
  :type 'number
  :group 'cursor
  :set (lambda (symbol value)
         (set-default symbol value)
         (when blink-cursor-timer (blink-cursor--start-timer))))

(defcustom tooltip-delay 0.7
  "Seconds to wait before displaying a tooltip the first time."
  :type 'number)

Daniel
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> From: Daniel Mendler <mail@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 81560 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 19:26:13 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 17:42:10 +0200
> >> From: Daniel Mendler via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> >>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> >> 
> >> The speedbar uses the customizable variable `dframe-update-speed' to
> >> check for updates. This variable has variable :type `integer' but
> >> shorter delays are supported, e.g., 0.5. I suggest to change the
> >> variable :type to `number'.
> >
> > Actually, 'number' is also inaccurate: the value can be in the format
> > of the value returned by current-idle-time, because the value is
> > passed to run-with-idle-timer.
> 
> So is there a type which you think is appropriate?

If we change no other code, then perhaps allowing a list of
appropriate lengths in addition to a number?  IOW, a custom validation
function.

> What do we use for other delays?

I didn't yet have time to look, sorry.
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 17:42:10 +0200
>> From: Daniel Mendler via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
>> 
>> The speedbar uses the customizable variable `dframe-update-speed' to
>> check for updates. This variable has variable :type `integer' but
>> shorter delays are supported, e.g., 0.5. I suggest to change the
>> variable :type to `number'.
>
> Actually, 'number' is also inaccurate: the value can be in the format
> of the value returned by current-idle-time, because the value is
> passed to run-with-idle-timer.

So is there a type which you think is appropriate? What do we use for
other delays? In my packages I usually use `number' iirc.
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> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2026 17:42:10 +0200
> From: Daniel Mendler via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>
> 
> The speedbar uses the customizable variable `dframe-update-speed' to
> check for updates. This variable has variable :type `integer' but
> shorter delays are supported, e.g., 0.5. I suggest to change the
> variable :type to `number'.

Actually, 'number' is also inaccurate: the value can be in the format
of the value returned by current-idle-time, because the value is
passed to run-with-idle-timer.
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Subject: 31.0.91; dframe-update-speed specifies :type integer
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The speedbar uses the customizable variable `dframe-update-speed' to
check for updates. This variable has variable :type `integer' but
shorter delays are supported, e.g., 0.5. I suggest to change the
variable :type to `number'.

In GNU Emacs 31.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.49, cairo version 1.18.4) of 2026-07-30
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101016
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=$HOME/.local/share/emacs-install
 --without-compress-install --with-tree-sitter=ifavailable
 --with-native-compilation --with-dbus --without-selinux
 --without-threads --disable-gc-mark-trace --without-gsettings
 --without-gpm --with-cairo --with-cairo-xcb --with-xinput2
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --without-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-O3
 -mtune=native -march=native''

Configured features:
CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD
LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP
SOUND SQLITE3 TIFF TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XCOMPOSITE XDBE XFIXES XIM
XINERAMA XINPUT2 XPM XRANDR XRENDER XSHAPE XSYNC GTK3 ZLIB
Acknowledgement sent to Daniel Mendler <mail@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#81560; Package emacs. Full text available.
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