Received: (at 8572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 12:41:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 08:41:13 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QFQWu-0008Qy-WE for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:41:13 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <whitebox@HIDDEN>) id 1QFQWt-0008Qm-3q for 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:41:11 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F701C08CED; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.8.164]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DCB1C0008E; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:41:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.180]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.8.164]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MDXqHUjS4wHb; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-158-197.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.158.197]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id E9675CA29C; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:41:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> To: Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8572: du/bigtime skip reason References: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> <87hb9i2079.fsf@HIDDEN> <201104281340.18450.bruno@HIDDEN> X-Yow: With this weapon I can expose fictional characters and bring about sweeping reforms!! Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:41:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <201104281340.18450.bruno@HIDDEN> (Bruno Haible's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:40:17 +0200") Message-ID: <m2iptyk0ps.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8572 Cc: 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jim Meyering <jim@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> writes: > If printing a date is harder than assigning that date to a file, how is then > "ls -l" doing it? > > $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/ls -l f* > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 48 31. Mär 01:57 foo1.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 244 31. Mär 01:57 foo.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 922337203685477580 future > > Hmm. A single column instead of 3 columns? Wouldn't it be better to print > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 10. Sep 29227704432 future 29227704432 is not representable in int tm_year, thus localtime fails. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@HIDDEN GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."
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Full text available.Received: (at 8572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 11:59:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 07:59:04 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QFPs7-0007Q1-N2 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:59:03 -0400 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([82.230.74.64]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <jim@HIDDEN>) id 1QFPs5-0007PX-LJ for 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:59:02 -0400 Received: by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister, from userid 1000) id 39B0E60290; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:58:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Jim Meyering <jim@HIDDEN> To: Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8572: du/bigtime skip reason In-Reply-To: <201104281340.18450.bruno@HIDDEN> (Bruno Haible's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:40:17 +0200") References: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> <87hb9i2079.fsf@HIDDEN> <201104281340.18450.bruno@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:58:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87pqo6ziww.fsf@HIDDEN> Lines: 46 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8572 Cc: 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Bruno Haible wrote: > Hi Jim, > >> That use of touch has to depend on the file system since it sets >> stat.st_mtime and stat.st_atime. > > But why is (in 64bit mode) 'touch' accepting a date that 'date' rejects? > > $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo $? > 0 > $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/date -d @922337203685477580 > coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/date: time 922337203685477580 is out of range > > If printing a date is harder than assigning that date to a file, how is t= hen > "ls -l" doing it? > > $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/ls -l f* > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 48 31. M=E4r 01:57 foo1.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 244 31. M=E4r 01:57 foo.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 922337203685477580 future > > Hmm. A single column instead of 3 columns? Wouldn't it be better to print > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 10. Sep 29227704432 future > > Then programs which expect 3 columns for the date will continue to work. > >> On systems with 32-bit st_*time >> fields, touch has to diagnose failures like the above when the >> supplied value is too wide for a 32-bit slot. > > So, this means 32-bit programs cannot reliably read the date of a file? > Oh indeed: > > $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/ls -l future > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 922337203685477580 future > $ coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/ls -l future > -rw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 13. Okt 1942 future > > So, the error message "file system cannot represent big time stamps" was = wrong; > instead: "the touch program's time_t type cannot represent big time stamp= s" > would have been correct. Right. Though actually it's the type of timespec.tv_sec (time_t) that matters, and that is selected by you when you choose to build 32- or 64-bit binaries.
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Full text available.Received: (at 8572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 11:40:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 07:40:30 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QFPa9-00070d-A8 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:40:29 -0400 Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.160]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <bruno@HIDDEN>) id 1QFPa6-00070N-GK for 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:40:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1303990819; l=1638; s=domk; d=haible.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To: References:Cc:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=0cqG1czUSIFLY/Uz7zbBjleZRkI=; b=T+tIjTu2CANK9Q6UlLKVmcDA9arLca098myeumH0SxkxSQohVrPxsD0I1mAhERklP9r X6PZEjnWOZaVxisTrNHQWm9KLjS8irdgia5DXbLLz6yQG85HAGvEnnKbB7sbO63fogXlx 5xIYkMJaJbg8XstQg2rOb/9DFGGwDtlNGT0= X-RZG-AUTH: :Ln4Re0+Ic/6oZXR1YgKryK8brksyK8dozXDwHXjf9hj/zDNRbvU45h26 X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from linuix.haible.de (dslb-088-068-073-041.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.68.73.41]) by post.strato.de (cohen mo9) (RZmta 25.17) with ESMTPA id m008a7n3SA8oiH ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:40:19 +0200 (MEST) From: Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> To: Jim Meyering <jim@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8572: du/bigtime skip reason Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:40:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> <87hb9i2079.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87hb9i2079.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201104281340.18450.bruno@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8572 Cc: 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) Hi Jim, > That use of touch has to depend on the file system since it sets > stat.st_mtime and stat.st_atime. But why is (in 64bit mode) 'touch' accepting a date that 'date' rejects? $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo $? 0 $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/date -d @922337203685477580 coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/date: time 922337203685477580 is out of range If printing a date is harder than assigning that date to a file, how is then "ls -l" doing it? $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/ls -l f* =2Drw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 48 31. M=C3=A4r 01:57 foo1.c =2Drw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 244 31. M=C3=A4r 01:57 foo.c =2Drw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 922337203685477580 future Hmm. A single column instead of 3 columns? Wouldn't it be better to print =2Drw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 10. Sep 29227704432 future Then programs which expect 3 columns for the date will continue to work. > On systems with 32-bit st_*time=20 > fields, touch has to diagnose failures like the above when the > supplied value is too wide for a 32-bit slot. So, this means 32-bit programs cannot reliably read the date of a file? Oh indeed: $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/ls -l future=20 =2Drw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 922337203685477580 future $ coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/ls -l future=20 =2Drw-r--r-- 1 bruno users 0 13. Okt 1942 future So, the error message "file system cannot represent big time stamps" was wr= ong; instead: "the touch program's time_t type cannot represent big time stamps" would have been correct. Bruno =2D-=20 In memoriam Heinz Dro=C3=9Fel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Drossel>
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Full text available.Received: (at 8572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 09:50:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 05:50:11 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QFNrP-0003k9-Bv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:50:11 -0400 Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.161]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <bruno@HIDDEN>) id 1QFNrM-0003jk-A0 for 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:50:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1303984202; l=1558; s=domk; d=haible.de; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To: References:Cc:Date:Subject:To:From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=QK3yOO8lwZEN13ypwf4Iw709ydQ=; b=dNka7adNf3YyDGefK1CB8nPq/XX2kwlwMBjbgB5ib2okCo/eVkd6+HGFgvGZZ8bQDYj IWiBEboMxn1uZBA60HJiuEC5SdV2+ZbNvL+TqwOL5fnA+9vWcM56VUtNQ8z52NKA7nzkN +/wzUeuXCHBUSBnMe3MnAR77iVMvxhgOHoM= X-RZG-AUTH: :Ln4Re0+Ic/6oZXR1YgKryK8brksyK8dozXDwHXjf9hj/zDNRbvU45h26 X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from linuix.haible.de (dslb-088-068-073-041.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.68.73.41]) by post.strato.de (cohen mo14) (RZmta 25.17) with ESMTPA id d06623n3S91SBY ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:50:01 +0200 (MEST) From: Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8572: du/bigtime skip reason Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:49:58 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> <4DB8D6D4.809@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <4DB8D6D4.809@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201104281149.59880.bruno@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8572 Cc: 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) Hi Paul, > > $ ./coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo = $? > > 0 > >=20 > > $ ./coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo = $? > > ./coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/touch: invalid date format `@922337203685477= 580' > > 1 And the 'date' program's interpretation of the same date: $ coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/date -d @922337203685477580 coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/date: time 922337203685477580 is out of range $ coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/date -d @922337203685477580 coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/date: invalid date `@922337203685477580' > Is it the message "invalid date format" that's the problem? > So you're suggesting that the message be improved to say "date out of ran= ge", or > something like that? That would make sense; I'm just trying to make > sure that's what you're asking for. I'm asking for two things: 1) In tests/du/bigtime, to distinguish errors that are due to the 'time_t' = type from errors that are due to the file system. When I get the error message "file system cannot represent big time stamps" I am led to believe that it's a problem with the 'ext3' file system, and actually it is not: the reason is some behavioural difference between 32-bit and 64-bit of the 'touch' program. 2) To have a consistent interpretation of @922337203685477580 as an input d= ate between 'touch' and 'date' and between 32-bit and 64-bit binaries on the same machine. Bruno =2D-=20 In memoriam Heinz Dro=C3=9Fel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Drossel>
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Full text available.Received: (at 8572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 09:29:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 05:29:40 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QFNXX-0003H8-Pn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:29:40 -0400 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([82.230.74.64]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <jim@HIDDEN>) id 1QFNXV-0003Gw-9t for 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 05:29:38 -0400 Received: by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister, from userid 1000) id BDFB6602A0; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:29:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Jim Meyering <jim@HIDDEN> To: Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8572: du/bigtime skip reason In-Reply-To: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> (Bruno Haible's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:21:00 +0200") References: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:29:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87hb9i2079.fsf@HIDDEN> Lines: 28 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8572 Cc: 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Bruno Haible wrote: > building coreutils 8.12 on a Linux 2.6.25.20, glibc 2.8 machine, "make check" > shows these lines in 32-bits only (not in 64-bit builds): > > bigtime: skipped test: file system cannot represent big time stamps > SKIP: du/bigtime > > The message suggests that it's a problem with the file system. But then, > why do I get the SKIP then in a 32-bit build and a PASS in a 64-bit build? > > The answer is that the behaviour of the 'touch' program depends on whether > it is built in 32-bit mode or in 64-bit mode: > > $ ./coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo $? > 0 > > $ ./coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo $? > ./coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/touch: invalid date format `@922337203685477580' > 1 > > I would argue that when entering a date, this should not happen. For numbers, > ok, but here a number is meant to be converted to a date. Hi Bruno, That use of touch has to depend on the file system since it sets stat.st_mtime and stat.st_atime. On systems with 32-bit st_*time fields, touch has to diagnose failures like the above when the supplied value is too wide for a 32-bit slot.
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Full text available.Received: (at 8572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2011 02:54:27 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 27 22:54:27 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QFHN4-0001Ev-P2 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:54:27 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1QFHN1-0001Eh-Th for 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:54:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABA439E80DB; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vfvGwVKmyCGX; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6DC5739E8082; Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DB8D6D4.809@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:54:12 -0700 From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruno Haible <bruno@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8572: du/bigtime skip reason References: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <201104280121.01460.bruno@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8572 Cc: 8572 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On 04/27/11 16:21, Bruno Haible wrote: > $ ./coreutils-8.12-64bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo $? > 0 > > $ ./coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/touch -d @922337203685477580 future; echo $? > ./coreutils-8.12-32bit/src/touch: invalid date format `@922337203685477580' > 1 > > I would argue that when entering a date, this should not happen. Is it the message "invalid date format" that's the problem? So you're suggesting that the message be improved to say "date out of range", or something like that? That would make sense; I'm just trying to make sure that's what you're asking for.
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