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Full text available.Received: (at 8592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2011 21:08:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 17:08:41 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QH0MD-0004m5-28 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 17:08:41 -0400 Received: from mo-p05-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.180]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <abstraktion@HIDDEN>) id 1QH039-0004M9-BI for 8592 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 16:49:00 -0400 X-RZG-AUTH: :KmALZ0mpdbGonPxw7gDkop508XQjelhLxGYn4B74/iddlkME3ssvHN/NVn+dtQ6oeNmSC72U8Yw= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from flo-laptop (p54997444.dip.t-dialin.net [84.153.116.68]) by post.strato.de (fruni mo60) (RZmta 25.17) with (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted) ESMTPA id x0644en42IBY5t ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:48:50 +0200 (MEST) From: Florian Beck <abstraktion@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8592: 24.0.50; improve describe-function/variable References: <8762pwenjg.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tydg3pga.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:48:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87tydg3pga.fsf@HIDDEN> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:15:33 +0300") Message-ID: <87r58gltfy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8592 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:08:37 -0400 Cc: Florian Beck <abstraktion@HIDDEN>, 8592 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> writes: >> Both functions provide lots of useful information. Unfortunatly, they do >> too much at once. They collect the information AND display it. I'd find >> it useul to have access to the help text in a lisp program. So I suggest >> splitting the functions up and have one function return the help text, >> another display it. Even more useful would be a function returning a >> list with source file and position, keybindings, etc for functions and >> original value for variables. > > This is what I intended to do: > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/125872/focus=126713 > I'll continue very soon. That looks exactly like what I need. Looking forward to it! > > > > -- Florian Beck
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Full text available.Received: (at 8592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2011 12:18:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 30 08:18:11 2011 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1QG97j-0000Uv-7y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:18:11 -0400 Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1QG97f-0000UW-9j for 8592 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:18:08 -0400 Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547DB6E805C; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 05:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99713451C298; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 05:17:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Florian Beck <abstraktion@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#8592: 24.0.50; improve describe-function/variable Organization: JURTA References: <8762pwenjg.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:15:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <8762pwenjg.fsf@HIDDEN> (Florian Beck's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:49:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87tydg3pga.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 8592 Cc: 8592 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/pipermail/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > Both functions provide lots of useful information. Unfortunatly, they do > too much at once. They collect the information AND display it. I'd find > it useul to have access to the help text in a lisp program. So I suggest > splitting the functions up and have one function return the help text, > another display it. Even more useful would be a function returning a > list with source file and position, keybindings, etc for functions and > original value for variables. This is what I intended to do: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/125872/focus=126713 I'll continue very soon.
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