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Subject: bug#9370: "tail -f -1" should work
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$ tail --version
tail (GNU coreutils) 8.5
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
<http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by Paul Rubin, David MacKenzie, Ian Lance Taylor,
and Jim Meyering.
$
$ tail -f -1 some.log
tail: option used in invalid context -- 1
$

On any other system I have used the -NUM option can be used with
the -f option to specify how many lines of the file as-is to print
before starting to follow it for updates.

With this version of tail, it always prints ten lines and then
starts the follow.

Elijah

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Subject: bug#9370: "tail -f -1" should work
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Eli the Beareded wrote:
> $ tail -f -1 some.log
> tail: option used in invalid context -- 1
> $

I think you wanted this:
$ tail -f -n1 some.log

The syntax is explained quite nice in recent versions:

    -n, --lines=3DK            output the last K lines, instead of the last=
 10;
                             or use -n +K to output lines starting with the=
 Kth
  ...
  If the first character of K (the number of bytes or lines) is a `+',
  print beginning with the Kth item from the start of each file, otherwise,
  print the last K items in the file.  K may have a multiplier suffix: ...

Have fun,
Berny

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Subject: bug#9370: "tail -f -1" should work
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On 08/24/11 23:15, Eli the Beareded wrote:
> On any other system I have used the -NUM option can be used with
> the -f option to specify how many lines of the file as-is to print
> before starting to follow it for updates.

The interaction between -NUM and other options is so complicated
and unportable (different editions of the POSIX standards
disagree!) that GNU 'tail' is fairly conservative about where it
allows -NUM.  It might be nice to add support for your particular usage,
if someone wants to write the code, but it'll require some care to make
sure it doesn't run afoul of existing usage or standard in some other way.

In the meantime I suggest using "tail -f -n NUM", as that's standard
and portable these days.

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Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 08/24/11 23:15, Eli the Beareded wrote:
>> On any other system I have used the -NUM option can be used with
>> the -f option to specify how many lines of the file as-is to print
>> before starting to follow it for updates.
>
> The interaction between -NUM and other options is so complicated
> and unportable (different editions of the POSIX standards
> disagree!) that GNU 'tail' is fairly conservative about where it
> allows -NUM.  It might be nice to add support for your particular usage,
> if someone wants to write the code, but it'll require some care to make
> sure it doesn't run afoul of existing usage or standard in some other way.
>
> In the meantime I suggest using "tail -f -n NUM", as that's standard
> and portable these days.

I've marked this as a wishlist item.

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