GNU bug report logs - #9586
The Windows port does not support datagram sockets

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN>; dated Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:15:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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I don't need them for anything specific. It's just a capability that works
on GNU/Linux and not on Windows.

And that's why I updated this bug report, to mark that it wasn't obsolete.

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<div dir="ltr">I don&#39;t need them for anything specific. It&#39;s just a capability that works on GNU/Linux and not on Windows.<div><br></div><div>And that&#39;s why I updated this bug report, to mark that it wasn&#39;t obsolete.<br></div><br></div>

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>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 16:28:27 +0200, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN> said:
    Juanma> Anyway, this bug report wasn't really about dns.el, but about datagram
    Juanma> sockets not being implemented on the Windows port. The dns.el problem is
    Juanma> just fallout.

True, but the question remains: what do you need datagram sockets for?

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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:19 PM Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> wrote:

> We now have the following, which will do DNS lookups, although it
> doesn=CA=BCt let you specify the server.
>
>     network-lookup-address-info is a built-in function in `C source code'=
.
>
>     (network-lookup-address-info NAME &optional FAMILY)

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Anyway, this bug report wasn't really about dns.el, but about datagram
sockets not being implemented on the Windows port. The dns.el problem is
just fallout.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:19 PM Robert Pluim &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:rpluim@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">rpluim@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br><br><div>&gt; We now have the following, which will do DNS lookups, alt=
hough it<br>&gt; doesn=CA=BCt let you specify the server.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 network-lookup-address-info is a built-in function in `C sour=
ce code&#39;.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (network-lookup-address-info NA=
ME &amp;optional FAMILY)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, I didn&#39;t know=
 that.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, this bug report wasn&#39;t really a=
bout dns.el, but about datagram sockets not being implemented on the Window=
s port. The dns.el problem is just fallout.<br><br></div></div>

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>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 00:52:26 +0200, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN=
om> said:

    Juanma> (Resending, there was a typo in the debbugs address)
    >>> dns.el uses datagram sockets.

    >> I suppose it was added after Stefan's comment (in 2006).

    Juanma> Well, in fact dns-query does not work on Windows because datagr=
am
    Juanma> sockets are still unsupported.

    Juanma> M-x load-library dns <RET>

    Juanma> M-: (dns-make-network-process "8.8.8.8")

    Juanma> =3D> Unsupported connection type

We now have the following, which will do DNS lookups, although it
doesn=CA=BCt let you specify the server.

    network-lookup-address-info is a built-in function in `C source code'.

    (network-lookup-address-info NAME &optional FAMILY)

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Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN> writes:

>> dns.el uses datagram sockets.
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> I suppose it was added after Stefan's comment (in 2006).

It was written in 2002, but perhaps it didn't land in Emacs until later.

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>> dns.el uses datagram sockets.

> I suppose it was added after Stefan's comment (in 2006).

Well, in fact dns-query does not work on Windows because datagram
sockets are still unsupported.

M-x load-library dns <RET>

M-: (dns-make-network-process "8.8.8.8")

=> Unsupported connection type

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> dns.el uses datagram sockets.

I suppose it was added after Stefan's comment (in 2006).

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Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@HIDDEN> writes:

> Stefan: "I don't know of any elisp code that uses datagram sockets, so
> it's not a big deal, is it?"

dns.el uses datagram sockets.

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Package: emacs
Severity: wishlist

This is not new. Datagram sockets were unreliable on Windows and were
disabled in 2006, during the 22.1 pretest.

Kim: "Unfortunately, I just discovered (by reading the code) that
datagram support is severely broken on Windows -- it can send
datagrams, but not receive them reliably. So datagram support should
probably be disabled too."

Stefan: "I don't know of any elisp code that uses datagram sockets, so
it's not a big deal, is it?"

(To which I would add: well, I would've programmed an elisp RADIUS
server long ago if datagrams were available on Windows, but still...)




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