GNU bug report logs - #9745
Restore vc-initial-comment functionality for VCS that support it

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>

Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:08:03 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: wontfix

Found in version 23.3

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#9745; Package emacs. (Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:08:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org. (Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:08:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.3; vc-register does not prompt for initial comment
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:21:42 -0700
This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
not to your local site managers!
Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.

Your report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org mailing list
and the gnu.emacs.bug news group, and at http://debbugs.gnu.org.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give
a recipe starting from `emacs -Q':

Performing a vc-register never prompts for an initial comment.  The
variable vc-initial-comment is defined in vc.el, but it is never
referenced or used.

Previous versions of Emacs prompted for an initial comment by default,
but that feature seems to have gotten lost.

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
   `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file
/usr/share/emacs/23.3/etc/DEBUG.


In GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12)
of 2011-10-09 on rolf
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10502000
configured using `configure  'prefix=/usr''

Important settings:
 value of $LC_ALL: nil
 value of $LC_COLLATE: C
 value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
 value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
 value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
 value of $LC_TIME: nil
 value of $LANG: en_US
 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
 locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix
 default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
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 mouse-wheel-mode: t
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<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<menu-bar> <help-menu> <send-emacs-bug-report>

Recent messages:
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-- 

   Chris            http://members.cox.net/cwcarlson





Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#9745; Package emacs. (Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:17:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
To: Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>
Cc: 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#9745: 23.3; vc-register does not prompt for initial comment
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:15:32 -0400
Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net> writes:

> This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
> not to your local site managers!
> Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
> usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.
>
> Your report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org mailing list
> and the gnu.emacs.bug news group, and at http://debbugs.gnu.org.
>
> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
> and the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give
> a recipe starting from `emacs -Q':
>
> Performing a vc-register never prompts for an initial comment.  The
> variable vc-initial-comment is defined in vc.el, but it is never
> referenced or used.
>
> Previous versions of Emacs prompted for an initial comment by default,
> but that feature seems to have gotten lost.

Modern VCS do not have an initial message when adding a file (just RCS
did that -- maybe SCCS too), so that feature has been removed. 




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#9745; Package emacs. (Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:41:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>
Subject: Re: bug#9745: 23.3; vc-register does not prompt for initial comment
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:39:40 -0400
Dan Nicolaescu wrote:

> Modern VCS do not have an initial message when adding a file (just RCS
> did that -- maybe SCCS too), so that feature has been removed. 

The variable is still defined (not even obsolete), still mentioned in
the manual, and there is nothing in NEWS or ChangeLog that says
"vc-initial-comment removed", so this is at least a doc bug.




Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#9745; Package emacs. (Tue, 18 Oct 2011 07:02:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #14 received at 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>
Subject: Re: bug#9745: 23.3; vc-register does not prompt for initial comment
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:00:01 -0400
I fixed the documentation and am leaving this open as a wishlist item,
to bring back the deleted functionality for VCS's that support it.




Changed bug title to 'Restore vc-initial-comment functionality for VCS that support it' from '23.3; vc-register does not prompt for initial comment' Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 18 Oct 2011 07:04:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 18 Oct 2011 07:04:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#9745; Package emacs. (Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:48:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #21 received at 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> gnu.org>, 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net>
Subject: Re: bug#9745: Restore vc-initial-comment functionality for VCS that
 support it
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 19:46:56 +0200
Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Modern VCS do not have an initial message when adding a file (just RCS
>> did that -- maybe SCCS too), so that feature has been removed. 
>
> The variable is still defined (not even obsolete), still mentioned in
> the manual, and there is nothing in NEWS or ChangeLog that says
> "vc-initial-comment removed", so this is at least a doc bug.

commit 0ef87d60054fc1660413772cfb5598d2fb8a5fe5
Author:     Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
AuthorDate: Fri Mar 23 20:31:53 2018 -0400

    * lisp/vc/vc.el (vc-initial-comment): Remove var unused since 23.2.

The variable was finally removed a couple of years ago, so I'm closing
this bug report.  (If somebody wants this functionality brought back, a
new wishlist bug report can be opened, but I can't recall seeing anybody
asking for that.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:48:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 9745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Chris Carlson <cwcarlson <at> cox.net> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 07 Sep 2021 17:48:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 06 Oct 2021 11:24:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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