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Before Emacs 29.1, selecting a region and running ispell-region would =
leave point and mark unchanged.  Now it leaves one end of the region at =
the last place ispell stopped.  I don=E2=80=99t know if this is intended =
behavior, but it is less convenient than the way it worked before.

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> From: Sean O'Rourke <sean@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 05:21:13 -0600
> 
> Before Emacs 29.1, selecting a region and running ispell-region would leave point and mark unchanged.  Now it leaves one end of the region at the last place ispell stopped.  I don’t know if this is intended behavior, but it is less convenient than the way it worked before.

It was deliberate, see bug#14816 (and the corresponding change to the
doc string of ispell-region).  With Emacs 29.1, the region is left
around the portion of text that was not yet spell-checked, so it is
more useful for continuing spell-checking.  I guess we could add a
user option to avoid doing that, for those who prefer the old
behavior, but is this really needed?

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Thanks for the prompt and thorough response, Eli.  My use case is that I =
store multiple blog posts in a single file.  When I compose one, I =
select it, run ispell-region, then copy-paste the corrected text into a =
webpage.  Ispell changing the region is therefore unhelpful to me, but =
if that=E2=80=99s an uncommon usage pattern, I can just defadvice it =
myself to get the old behavior back =E2=80=94 no need for another user =
option.

Sean

> On Aug 5, 2023, at 3:41 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
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>> From: Sean O'Rourke <sean@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 05:21:13 -0600
>>=20
>> Before Emacs 29.1, selecting a region and running ispell-region would =
leave point and mark unchanged.  Now it leaves one end of the region at =
the last place ispell stopped.  I don=E2=80=99t know if this is intended =
behavior, but it is less convenient than the way it worked before.
>=20
> It was deliberate, see bug#14816 (and the corresponding change to the
> doc string of ispell-region).  With Emacs 29.1, the region is left
> around the portion of text that was not yet spell-checked, so it is
> more useful for continuing spell-checking.  I guess we could add a
> user option to avoid doing that, for those who prefer the old
> behavior, but is this really needed?

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> From: Sean O'Rourke <sean@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2023 20:21:14 -0600
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> Thanks for the prompt and thorough response, Eli.  My use case is that I store multiple blog posts in a single file.  When I compose one, I select it, run ispell-region, then copy-paste the corrected text into a webpage.  Ispell changing the region is therefore unhelpful to me, but if that’s an uncommon usage pattern, I can just defadvice it myself to get the old behavior back — no need for another user option.

OK, thanks.  I'll leave the bug open so that others who'd like to have
such an option could chime in.  If there's enough demand, I think we
should add it.

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