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I've attempted to customize the shape of the pointer for the current
frame, what I've found out so far is that there are a text property to
change the pointer shape when hovering over it and the `x-pointer-shape'
option which takes effect on hovering over text.  Looking at the xfns.c
file in the Emacs 24.4 sources revealed to me that there is a
`x-nontext-pointer-shape' option which is processed similiarly to the
`x-pointer-shape' option, however the code responsible for exposing it
in the Lisp code is commented out with a preprocessor directive.

Is there any particular reason for this peculiar decision?  Or more
generally, why would a desirable feature be present, but commented out
from code?  Are there any special known caveats that led to it?



In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.7)
 of 2015-01-17 on bisson
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11701000
System Description:	Arch Linux

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M-x r e p o r t - e m a c s <return>

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Vasilij Schneidermann <v.schneidermann@HIDDEN> writes:

> I've attempted to customize the shape of the pointer for the current
> frame, what I've found out so far is that there are a text property to
> change the pointer shape when hovering over it and the `x-pointer-shape'
> option which takes effect on hovering over text.  Looking at the xfns.c
> file in the Emacs 24.4 sources revealed to me that there is a
> `x-nontext-pointer-shape' option which is processed similiarly to the
> `x-pointer-shape' option, however the code responsible for exposing it
> in the Lisp code is commented out with a preprocessor directive.
>
> Is there any particular reason for this peculiar decision?  Or more
> generally, why would a desirable feature be present, but commented out
> from code?  Are there any special known caveats that led to it?

I think the reasons are lost to the mist of time, [1: af01ef2643] is the commit
which ifdefs it out; the changelog is not very enlightening.

[1: af01ef2643]: 1993-05-21 20:22:10 +0000
  (syms_of_xfns): Don't make Lisp vars x-mode-pointer-shape and x-nontext-pointer-shape.
  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=af01ef26430d69c04421aac4d862df4f5898a838

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> From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 20:05:32 -0400
> Cc: 20076 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Is there any particular reason for this peculiar decision?  Or more
> > generally, why would a desirable feature be present, but commented out
> > from code?  Are there any special known caveats that led to it?
> 
> I think the reasons are lost to the mist of time, [1: af01ef2643] is the commit
> which ifdefs it out; the changelog is not very enlightening.
> 
> [1: af01ef2643]: 1993-05-21 20:22:10 +0000
>   (syms_of_xfns): Don't make Lisp vars x-mode-pointer-shape and x-nontext-pointer-shape.
>   https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=af01ef26430d69c04421aac4d862df4f5898a838

We could perhaps expose these variables to Lisp again, on master, and
see if that breaks something in the long run.
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