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Emacs comes with a GUI app that launches emacs. It would be very
helpful if there would be a GUI app that launches emacsclient. Im on
OSX, and sometimes its useful to drag a few files from my desktop to the
emacs icon on my dock. but that launches the full emacs, so its slow. it
would be nice if that app checked for a running daemon to connect to
before launching the full emacs, or if there would be a second app that
would use emacsclient.

So we shoudl either add a new app for emacsclient, or better, make that
existing app use emacsclient, and if there is no daemon, then use
full emacs.


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It seems to me that

emacsclient -a "" -c

does what you want, and you should be able to bind that to whatever
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but i cannot run it with an app-script unless i give the full path to emacsclient. its a good workaround, but i think its not general enough. i dont think that this functionality is something for a dotfile or a script you make again and again for your machines. i think its something basic thats needs to be available, like the full emacs app. what do you think?

i could try to implement it, in a local branch, and then submit a pull request. would that be of interest?


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It seems to me that 

emacsclient -a "" -c 

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but i think its not general enough. i dont think that this functionality =
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I think this is how Emacs in general should work.
There should be no separate "emacsclient", only "emacs".
The first call to "emacs" would start a server by default.
Subsequent calls to "emacs" would always connect to the running Emacs,
unless you used "emacs --new-instance" or somesuch.
This is how eg Firefox works.

I don't think this is a new suggestion, eg bug#7741 explains it all.
But there's no sign of it happening.

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ok then how about we actually make it work like firefox, so when you
close all windows of Emacs.app, it doesn=E2=80=99t quit. it stays, keeping =
the
instance running. so if i click on it again, it opens a new windows
connecting to the existing instance. would that make more sense?

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Glenn Morris <rgm@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> I think this is how Emacs in general should work.
> There should be no separate "emacsclient", only "emacs".
> The first call to "emacs" would start a server by default.
> Subsequent calls to "emacs" would always connect to the running Emacs,
> unless you used "emacs --new-instance" or somesuch.
> This is how eg Firefox works.
>
> I don't think this is a new suggestion, eg bug#7741 explains it all.
> But there's no sign of it happening.
>



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