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Hi There,

I am using the sml-mode/REPL from inside Emacs. When I try to get the =
"~" character (normally Right Alt-n on my Swiss-French keyboard) I get =
what looks to be the first command of the history buffer instead.

When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this problem, =
the "~" is available as usual, as here.

My config :

MacOS 10.12.=20
French language
Swiss-french keyboard
sml/nj from http://www.smlnj.org/dist/working/110.80/ =
<http://www.smlnj.org/dist/working/110.80/>.
Standard sml-mode, from Stefan Monnier

Stefan gave me a work-around allowing me to get this character when I =
need it. But this may be a bug so I contact you directly. So did I.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Thierry



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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi There,</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I am using the sml-mode/REPL from =
inside Emacs. When I try to get the "~" character (normally Right Alt-n =
on my Swiss-French keyboard) I get what looks to be the first command of =
the history buffer instead.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this =
problem, the "~" is available as usual, as here.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My config :</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">MacOS 10.12.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">French language</div><div =
class=3D"">Swiss-french keyboard</div></div><div class=3D"">sml/nj =
from&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.smlnj.org/dist/working/110.80/" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener nofollow" =
class=3D"">http://www.smlnj.org/dist/working/110.80/</a>.</div><div =
class=3D"">Standard sml-mode, from Stefan Monnier</div><div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Stefan gave me a work-around allowing =
me to get this character when I need it. But this may be a bug so I =
contact you directly. So did I.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks in advance for your =
help.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thierry</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS =
apple-appkit-1265.21)</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;of 2015-04-10 on <a =
href=3D"http://builder10-9.porkrind.org" =
class=3D"">builder10-9.porkrind.org</a></div><div class=3D"">Windowing =
system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1504</div><div =
class=3D"">Configured using:</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;`configure =
--with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/Application</=
div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;Support/Emacs/site-lisp''</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Important =
settings:</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; locale-coding-system: =
utf-8-unix</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Major=
 mode: Inferior-SML</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Minor modes in effect:</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
compilation-minor-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; tooltip-mode: =
t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; electric-indent-mode: t</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; mouse-wheel-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
tool-bar-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; menu-bar-mode: t</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; file-name-shadow-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
global-font-lock-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; font-lock-mode: =
t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; blink-cursor-mode: t</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp; auto-composition-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
auto-encryption-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; =
auto-compression-mode: t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; line-number-mode: =
t</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp; transient-mark-mode: t</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Recent =
messages:</div><div class=3D"">For information about GNU Emacs and the =
GNU system, type C-h C-a.</div><div class=3D"">user-error: End of =
history; no default available</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Load-path shadows:</div><div =
class=3D"">None found.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Features:</div><div class=3D"">(shadow sort gnus-util =
mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml</div><div =
class=3D"">mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 =
mailabbrev</div><div class=3D"">gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 =
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util</div><div class=3D"">help-fns mail-prsvr =
mail-utils sml-mode compile comint ansi-color ring</div><div =
class=3D"">easymenu smie browse-url package epg-config time-date tooltip =
electric</div><div class=3D"">uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks =
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class=3D"">prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select =
scroll-bar</div><div class=3D"">mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu =
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class=3D"">custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote =
make-network-process</div><div class=3D"">cocoa ns multi-tty =
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:21:40PM +0200, Thierry Jeanneret wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> I am using the sml-mode/REPL from inside Emacs. When I try to get
> the "~" character (normally Right Alt-n on my Swiss-French keyboard)
> I get what looks to be the first command of the history buffer
> instead.
> 
> When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this
> problem, the "~" is available as usual, as here.

Hi,

This is a long‐standing problem with the defaults on non‐US English
keyboards. There are a number of work‐arounds available.

See previous (non‐)discussion at:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5011
-- 
Alan Third

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Hi Alan,

Thank you for your answer. I will try to unbind the right M-n combination, b=
ut I will not spend too much time with this since Stefan gave me another tri=
ck.

Best regards,

Thierry


> Le 19 oct. 2016 =C3=A0 13:01, Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>=20
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:21:40PM +0200, Thierry Jeanneret wrote:
>> Hi There,
>>=20
>> I am using the sml-mode/REPL from inside Emacs. When I try to get
>> the "~" character (normally Right Alt-n on my Swiss-French keyboard)
>> I get what looks to be the first command of the history buffer
>> instead.
>>=20
>> When I use the REPL from inside a terminal I don't have this
>> problem, the "~" is available as usual, as here.
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> This is a long=E2=80=90standing problem with the defaults on non=E2=80=90U=
S English
> keyboards. There are a number of work=E2=80=90arounds available.
>=20
> See previous (non=E2=80=90)discussion at:
>=20
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D5011
> --=20
> Alan Third

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package emacs
severity 51893 wishlist
merge 51893 5011
thankyou


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