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Subject: bug#24964: 25.1; Backspace inside term/ansi-term on OSX
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On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert
the character "^?" instead of doing a backspace.

Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works
fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less
or vim) that it breaks.

To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term,
type "echo foobar | less", type "/", start entering some text,
and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting
the text, it will insert "^?" characters.

A quick fix is to remap backspace to (term-send-raw-string "\C-h")
inside term-mode. The problem seems to arise from different systems
using Control-H vs Control-? as the raw character sequences for
deletion -- apparently OSX wants Control-H, but emacs assumes
Control-? (as best as I can tell, I am not an expert here).




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Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1404
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Jack Kamm <jackkamm@HIDDEN> writes:

> On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert
> the character "^?" instead of doing a backspace.
>
> Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works
> fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less
> or vim) that it breaks.
>
> To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term,
> type "echo foobar | less", type "/", start entering some text,
> and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting
> the text, it will insert "^?" characters.

This looks like it might be related to bug#5331:

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5331
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Yes, this is the same bug. I think it is due to weird shell initialization
in macOS -- it seems like the setting of erase key in TERMINFO and TERMCAP
gets ignored. For now I just manually set 'stty ek' in my .zshrc/.bashrc if
TERM == eterm-color.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> wrote:

> Jack Kamm <jackkamm@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert
> > the character "^?" instead of doing a backspace.
> >
> > Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works
> > fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less
> > or vim) that it breaks.
> >
> > To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term,
> > type "echo foobar | less", type "/", start entering some text,
> > and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting
> > the text, it will insert "^?" characters.
>
> This looks like it might be related to bug#5331:
>
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5331
> --
> Alan Third
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, this is the same bug. I think it is due to weird shel=
l initialization in macOS -- it seems like the setting of erase key in TERM=
INFO and TERMCAP gets ignored. For now I just manually set &#39;stty ek&#39=
; in my .zshrc/.bashrc if TERM =3D=3D eterm-color.<br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM,=
 Alan Third <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alan@HIDDEN" target=
=3D"_blank">alan@HIDDEN</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">Jack Kamm &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jackkamm@HIDDEN">jackkamm@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert<=
br>
&gt; the character &quot;^?&quot; instead of doing a backspace.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works<br>
&gt; fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less<br>
&gt; or vim) that it breaks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term,<br>
&gt; type &quot;echo foobar | less&quot;, type &quot;/&quot;, start enterin=
g some text,<br>
&gt; and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting<br>
&gt; the text, it will insert &quot;^?&quot; characters.<br>
<br>
This looks like it might be related to bug#5331:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D5331" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/<wbr>bugreport.cgi?b=
ug=3D5331</a><br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Alan Third<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>

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