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Full text available.Received: (at 24964) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2016 10:57:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 30 05:57:45 2016 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1cC2a8-00014H-Rv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 05:57:45 -0500 Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com ([209.85.161.181]:35925) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jackkamm@HIDDEN>) id 1cC2a7-000143-5O for 24964 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 05:57:43 -0500 Received: by mail-yw0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a10so154919733ywa.3 for <24964 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:57:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rvVQndwy1sx/KT6xhI378k6Myr512Ku6sAKeXXqidic=; b=Hu1j+FVXb7i0hXlAbKX/saFaqXka2PVEDZOK3O2quK6cKI8DPsnuBJX3GCGT76+gi4 OMyXmt/QnctnVFHklvIDCnfrD1VQG0W8samyM7sGw3TxnmviakDmlxPM1tzqX7dcthfz nEVHNirYnSBRgT5FgFXSUlNJRiD3MjFmFJrr0F09pzurb8cvIWnynVqJLzomfpH1hUsL 72yN/VFiOIef1az6+yHOcA6IGEuaQwj8Gzz4NhJJT2WvR9sMPlRSqsFcG8DoXMUZ9YSq ThwgAWy4gvjU0TKNDnAs+8Gg4TFeGEVn1ppkkWrf0gTj5I05LbCQ7n+5CuycUTGMTH+d LdMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rvVQndwy1sx/KT6xhI378k6Myr512Ku6sAKeXXqidic=; b=AWU6SmvKAUEXp2MPmbj4mThMA4VxdkT36OaegLZ7RQujzKmVCjUQToT3SwgmASSZ7b FPVt6zYIB5RFPxxVvXCQvkZy0MLm4VBtEkOBWJEJH3RBKOtixRzT05evtEVHbxwYYXSl qK7S2I00t6pjVldFDF2RpRetLwFNqGj/yP9KkmhMyFWcFbDLQXK62maAUiQZCdwjLZWl CuLwmBcLALkzG5f31JkiXzfFB+tuYYPdEPLKeW1qc7SD0gwe3Vj/xNOk7UV4cS7hQ96z XvwvV601OInNG4Ob6D7KacTOjA5YRTVIh1ZbtXec4CM7l061EOOHFziMzehabO85/C1p cGbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC015TmztMCwO00dUTxEWqIjCqEiSlnWCcqwy5K0xsKSOCbJmzYsKCgbYb6uRexofR0Fe5GeNqK73P2tB/w== X-Received: by 10.129.74.65 with SMTP id x62mr35132573ywa.59.1480503457504; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:57:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.45.3 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:57:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <m2inr8j20x.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <nmnzikwvj85.fsf@HIDDEN> <m2inr8j20x.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:57:37 +0000 Message-ID: <CADRALHyRrHOgd6+mgmVZCmAEoXb97910sJoEChCPzsHTykuNkQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#24964: 25.1; Backspace inside term/ansi-term on OSX To: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114d8b22ac64940542829202 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24964 Cc: 24964 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --001a114d8b22ac64940542829202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes, this is the same bug. I think it is due to weird shell initialization in macOS -- it seems like the setting of erase key in TERMINFO and TERMCAP gets ignored. For now I just manually set 'stty ek' in my .zshrc/.bashrc if TERM == eterm-color. On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> wrote: > Jack Kamm <jackkamm@HIDDEN> writes: > > > On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert > > the character "^?" instead of doing a backspace. > > > > Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works > > fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less > > or vim) that it breaks. > > > > To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term, > > type "echo foobar | less", type "/", start entering some text, > > and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting > > the text, it will insert "^?" characters. > > This looks like it might be related to bug#5331: > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=5331 > -- > Alan Third > --001a114d8b22ac64940542829202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, this is the same bug. I think it is due to weird shel= l initialization in macOS -- it seems like the setting of erase key in TERM= INFO and TERMCAP gets ignored. For now I just manually set 'stty ek'= ; in my .zshrc/.bashrc if TERM =3D=3D eterm-color.<br></div><div class=3D"g= mail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:55 PM,= Alan Third <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:alan@HIDDEN" target= =3D"_blank">alan@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g= mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l= eft:1ex">Jack Kamm <<a href=3D"mailto:jackkamm@HIDDEN">jackkamm@gmail= .com</a>> writes:<br> <br> > On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert<= br> > the character "^?" instead of doing a backspace.<br> ><br> > Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works<br> > fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less<br> > or vim) that it breaks.<br> ><br> > To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term,<br> > type "echo foobar | less", type "/", start enterin= g some text,<br> > and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting<br> > the text, it will insert "^?" characters.<br> <br> This looks like it might be related to bug#5331:<br> <br> <a href=3D"https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D5331" rel=3D"nor= eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/<wbr>bugreport.cgi?b= ug=3D5331</a><br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br> Alan Third<br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div> --001a114d8b22ac64940542829202--
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On OSX, interactive programs in multi-term/ansi-term/term will insert
the character "^?" instead of doing a backspace.
Note that simply typing backspace on the command prompt works
fine, it is only inside an interactive program (such as less
or vim) that it breaks.
To reproduce this, start emacs -Q, start ansi-term,
type "echo foobar | less", type "/", start entering some text,
and then hit backspace a few times. Instead of deleting
the text, it will insert "^?" characters.
A quick fix is to remap backspace to (term-send-raw-string "\C-h")
inside term-mode. The problem seems to arise from different systems
using Control-H vs Control-? as the raw character sequences for
deletion -- apparently OSX wants Control-H, but emacs assumes
Control-? (as best as I can tell, I am not an expert here).
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lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select
scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame
cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai
tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian
slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote kqueue cocoa ns
multi-tty make-network-process emacs)
Memory information:
((conses 16 846971 745835)
(symbols 48 73028 28)
(miscs 40 2417 15558)
(strings 32 181240 362469)
(string-bytes 1 6226567)
(vectors 16 93144)
(vector-slots 8 1450755 289216)
(floats 8 1549 2477)
(intervals 56 6434 1757)
(buffers 976 711))
Jack Kamm <jackkamm@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
Full text available.bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#24964; Package emacs.
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