GNU logs - #29634, boring messages


Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build
Resent-From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:04:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.29634.B.15128713978161 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: report 29634
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.15128713978161
          (code B ref -1); Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:04:01 +0000
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Dec 2017 02:03:17 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1eNqxY-00027Z-OX
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:16 -0500
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39330)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eNqxW-00027N-JT
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:15 -0500
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
 (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eNqxQ-0001hj-IO
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:09 -0500
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled
 version=3.3.2
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49933)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32)
 (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eNqxQ-0001hU-FH
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:08 -0500
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58527)
 by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71)
 (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eNqxP-00054j-Bk
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:08 -0500
Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71)
 (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eNqxK-0001cb-DK
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:07 -0500
Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:36722)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32)
 (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eNqxK-0001c6-7y
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:02 -0500
Received: from pool-72-93-28-165.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.28.165]
 helo=jojen)
 by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>)
 id 1eNqxI-0007Fq-Hi; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:03:00 -0500
From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 21:02:42 -0500
Message-ID: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic]
 [fuzzy]
X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x
X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11
X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----)

An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra,
because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored.
For example:

  https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845

This is a longstanding issue.  In past core-updates cycles, I have
worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations
from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time
manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures.

It would be good to fix this issue properly.

My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is
no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'.

       Mark




Message sent:


Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Subject: bug#29634: Acknowledgement (Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time'
 for early guile build)
Message-ID: <handler.29634.B.15128713978161.ack <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Gnu-PR-Message: ack 29634
X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix
Reply-To: 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:04:02 +0000

Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 bug-guix@HIDDEN

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@HIDDEN unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--=20
29634: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D29634
GNU Bug Tracking System
Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems


Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build
Resent-From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:41:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.29634.B29634.151298521121551 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29634
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Cc: 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 29634-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B29634.151298521121551
          (code B ref 29634); Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:41:02 +0000
Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Dec 2017 09:40:11 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1eOKZH-0005bV-6v
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:40:11 -0500
Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:38535)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1eOKZG-0005bO-Ax
 for 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:40:10 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1D7F6D4;
 Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:13 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr
Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id ZAMketw5nFS5; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:12 +0100 (CET)
Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.104])
 by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 550B0F354;
 Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:12 +0100 (CET)
From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/
X-Revolutionary-Date: 21 Frimaire an 226 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?=
X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5
X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc
X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4  0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5
X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:08 +0100
In-Reply-To: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Sat, 09
 Dec 2017 21:02:42 -0500")
Message-ID: <877ett4n7r.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+)

Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skribis:

> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra,
> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored.
> For example:
>
>   https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845
>
> This is a longstanding issue.  In past core-updates cycles, I have
> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations
> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time
> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures.
>
> It would be good to fix this issue properly.
>
> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is
> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'.

Exactly.  Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2=80=
=99 is built as a
dependency of another job.

Ludo=E2=80=99.




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build
Resent-From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:59:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.29634.B29634.151304750710680 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29634
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
Cc: 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 29634-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B29634.151304750710680
          (code B ref 29634); Tue, 12 Dec 2017 02:59:01 +0000
Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 02:58:27 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1eOam3-0002mB-0P
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:58:27 -0500
Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:36606)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eOam1-0002lw-94
 for 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:58:25 -0500
Received: from pool-72-93-30-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.30.197]
 helo=jojen)
 by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>)
 id 1eOalt-0008MW-T3; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:58:17 -0500
From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN> <877ett4n7r.fsf@HIDDEN>
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:57:56 -0500
In-Reply-To: <877ett4n7r.fsf@HIDDEN> ("Ludovic
 \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\=
 \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2017 10:40:08 +0100")
Message-ID: <87y3m8irez.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)

ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:

> Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra,
>> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored.
>> For example:
>>
>>   https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845
>>
>> This is a longstanding issue.  In past core-updates cycles, I have
>> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations
>> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time
>> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures.
>>
>> It would be good to fix this issue properly.
>>
>> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is
>> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'.
>
> Exactly.  Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2=
=80=99 is built as a
> dependency of another job.

How do you think we should fix this?

      Mark




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build
Resent-From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 09:22:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.29634.B29634.151307047126786 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29634
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Cc: 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 29634-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B29634.151307047126786
          (code B ref 29634); Tue, 12 Dec 2017 09:22:01 +0000
Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 09:21:11 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57690 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1eOgkR-0006xy-BY
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 04:21:11 -0500
Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:42237)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1eOgkQ-0006xr-0V
 for 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 04:21:10 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA11DF8D2;
 Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:12 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr
Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id x7HN9Avh0DJU; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:12 +0100 (CET)
Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.104])
 by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F032CF5CC;
 Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:11 +0100 (CET)
From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN> <877ett4n7r.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <87y3m8irez.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/
X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 Frimaire an 226 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?=
X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5
X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc
X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4  0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5
X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:08 +0100
In-Reply-To: <87y3m8irez.fsf@HIDDEN> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Mon, 11
 Dec 2017 21:57:56 -0500")
Message-ID: <87po7ks3nf.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+)

Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skribis:

> ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:
>
>> Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>
>>> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra,
>>> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored.
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>   https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845
>>>
>>> This is a longstanding issue.  In past core-updates cycles, I have
>>> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations
>>> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time
>>> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures.
>>>
>>> It would be good to fix this issue properly.
>>>
>>> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is
>>> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'.
>>
>> Exactly.  Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2=
=80=99 is built as a
>> dependency of another job.
>
> How do you think we should fix this?

Of course I=E2=80=99d prefer if Guile compile times were shorter.

Besides, we should probably handle timeouts per-derivation rather than
globally (currently timeout are per-session, see =E2=80=98set-build-options=
=E2=80=99).
We could do that by adding a new special value in the environment
variable map of derivation (as is the case for, e.g.,
=E2=80=9CexportReferencesGraph=E2=80=9D) that the daemon would honor.  It=
=E2=80=99s a
rebuild-the-world change though.

Ludo=E2=80=99.




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#29634: Hydra fails to honor 'max-silent-time' for early guile build
Resent-From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:14:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.29634.B29634.151311680326179 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29634
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
Cc: 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 29634-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B29634.151311680326179
          (code B ref 29634); Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:14:01 +0000
Received: (at 29634) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2017 22:13:23 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1eOsnj-0006oB-I1
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:23 -0500
Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:39042)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>) id 1eOsni-0006nv-23
 for 29634 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:22 -0500
Received: from pool-72-93-30-197.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([72.93.30.197]
 helo=jojen)
 by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <mhw@HIDDEN>)
 id 1eOsnc-00075N-5H; Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:13:16 -0500
From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN>
References: <87efo3jq65.fsf@HIDDEN> <877ett4n7r.fsf@HIDDEN>
 <87y3m8irez.fsf@HIDDEN> <87po7ks3nf.fsf@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 17:12:56 -0500
In-Reply-To: <87po7ks3nf.fsf@HIDDEN> ("Ludovic
 \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\=
 \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Tue, 12 Dec 2017 10:21:08 +0100")
Message-ID: <87h8svd28n.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)

ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:

> Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes:
>>
>>> Mark H Weaver <mhw@HIDDEN> skribis:
>>>
>>>> An early 'guile' build on armhf-linux consistently fails on Hydra,
>>>> because the 'timeout' and 'max-silent-time' properties are not honored.
>>>> For example:
>>>>
>>>>   https://hydra.gnu.org/build/2391845
>>>>
>>>> This is a longstanding issue.  In past core-updates cycles, I have
>>>> worked around the problem by rebuilding these early 'guile' derivations
>>>> from Hydra's command line, passing --timeout and --max-silent-time
>>>> manually, and then restarting the many dependency failures.
>>>>
>>>> It would be good to fix this issue properly.
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that the build parameters are not honored because there is
>>>> no Hydra 'job' associated with this early 'guile'.
>>>
>>> Exactly.  Or maybe there=E2=80=99s one but this early =E2=80=98guile=E2=
=80=99 is built as a
>>> dependency of another job.
>>
>> How do you think we should fix this?
>
> Of course I=E2=80=99d prefer if Guile compile times were shorter.
>
> Besides, we should probably handle timeouts per-derivation rather than
> globally (currently timeout are per-session, see =E2=80=98set-build-optio=
ns=E2=80=99).
> We could do that by adding a new special value in the environment
> variable map of derivation (as is the case for, e.g.,
> =E2=80=9CexportReferencesGraph=E2=80=9D) that the daemon would honor.  It=
=E2=80=99s a
> rebuild-the-world change though.

Sounds good to me.  For now, I'll rebuild the early guile for armhf
manually.

     Thanks,
       Mark




Message received at control <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2018 14:28:43 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 08 09:28:43 2018
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1eYYPr-0007Y2-3j
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 09:28:43 -0500
Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([185.233.100.1]:35922)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1eYYPo-0007Xu-Uh
 for control <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2018 09:28:41 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7962510812
 for <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon,  8 Jan 2018 15:28:40 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr
Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id Fg1oyMshc0Fp for <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>;
 Mon,  8 Jan 2018 15:28:40 +0100 (CET)
Received: from ribbon (unknown [193.50.110.243])
 by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E44E2107F6
 for <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon,  8 Jan 2018 15:28:39 +0100 (CET)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2018 15:28:39 +0100
Message-Id: <87d12kfmqw.fsf@HIDDEN>
To: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org
From: ludo@HIDDEN (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=)
Subject: control message for bug #29634
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+)
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+)

retitle 29634 'max-silent-time' etc. should be per-derivation settings





Last modified: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 12:00:02 UTC

GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-97 Ian Jackson.