Received: (at 32426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2018 15:49:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 14 11:49:30 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50988 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fpbZL-0007YZ-DA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:49:30 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:56991) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1fpbYu-0007X1-M2 for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:49:03 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.243.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6O1v-1g4Usd0KEd-00yMJa; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:48:24 +0200 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#32426: 27.0.50; Loosing key bindings in threads References: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> <87zhxqv4tz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sh3ijpql.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pnyluuuf.fsf@HIDDEN> <837ektj7wv.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 17:48:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <837ektj7wv.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:16:00 +0300") Message-ID: <87eff1ueyh.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YBw8M4owWz1EdtnowdqQdRCdgXendOzPmQy4DtLRM0c1DjIBhNT mM6lO6BliOqzQ38Mt8//d7arOJKztGlsNlmV3sitLcwyn76vHuNRmbVzLUWXsYVNxi7rVjW p9WWrRSQoq2qy0g8NzK6dFf5qG8ILGzCwiSKxCPgn1Dt4BHa7Rcm7lNmGUMJg78Ee8wlkDl bc3sevBX+nYk0fhIXD3dA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pBZo1xeopK4=:sJPsUVZ45JifMsPRPjCX0C 1ZJg4yKRorSm0Vz8sfyf76aBC3B5tqv1kZqI/DYkR7Ld0atUVsZOFFDFQCadjnXv8PH/9nzCe iHUPwnYi3X7yTI+icGXATn9W+qEYmODxSwJBOrbojNGteQ3ChfQbw63OvEwBBgBKUSbjzK9b0 8lUloUleKyWNxtn/x65fiJ2tENmZ8Hv0ralXkm0O5nfMRFvK7ugFkECFvaONHunnn4SiEbDUv 83ppVY9sSZxho76dTgPdSjj8HSE+1vVhT06dNW5jYyjSMWVKRZo/PHKq/axzk0JltfeIL13br pCE5ykPEF1DWTiPkk/Nz5kp/9i4w7yJuxKGoTy9tQOeblQ/kcfne/sPWIjTNemf5Dd5Tr5Hu4 e5wz2YJl9vmtv+9SpG3paymAv8GMBp9dkVAnaCFQG8/mAHv8Gx48jINt/JF2Ywgf8bAMiXuND CF6NNYlhUoaf2pD6GmVHEmVl1G6E9y6l/3FKzda0IlC5KW/1ZYknSz9+sfpapIKurWHV/rBMH Z+Nwgtez+V0SdovFUJbZrCyPxhKb3v1JwXmU9yAaTrJQZuAW6gGnG5dsGLC2Rp7cb1kSDRpKd uS7+Hhwd5nhslMoan50iWVf4/+p2Vf94QBd9ZiQOH3xkEsoZ6+9llh3MRceUAubjyknjfEoPx lt+KfEXOriSiY+UFQTApRgTv+x4MGKS5Orx4Bn8A1rZBfwHE+LSgSwJiszVLAcWVZz2e8+vUI u9har16ciTJGV4SA8FsndGKvfwz7WJB5Hu9mfC2f6LkHmZlcrOCn2bpdRmARFLEU7/V8+appp 4SsmjH+ X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32426 Cc: 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Eli, >> Perhaps we need this also for other events, D-Bus and file notifications >> come to mind. > > Possibly, but those seem like an easier nut to crack: AFAIU, each time > we need to watch for D-Bus events, we register a file descriptor for > that, and deregister it when we no longer need it, is that right? If > so, we could easily make these descriptors watched only by the thread > that registered the watch, the infrastructure for that already exists. We need a file descriptor per D-Bus bus (system and session). But applications register for (asynchronous) method calls and signals on the buses. This could happen in several threads, so we need a mechanism how to distribute incoming events to those threads. But I would postpone this discussion until after we have resolved the keyboard issue. Best regards, Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32426; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2018 15:16:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 14 11:16:03 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fpb3D-0006L5-GW for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:16:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56331) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpb3A-0006K8-1p for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:16:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpb30-0001lB-Rn for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:15:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44124) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpb30-0001kx-Nm; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:15:50 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4055 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpb30-0004O8-1Y; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 11:15:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 18:16:00 +0300 Message-Id: <837ektj7wv.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <87pnyluuuf.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Michael Albinus on Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:05:12 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32426: 27.0.50; Loosing key bindings in threads References: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> <87zhxqv4tz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sh3ijpql.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pnyluuuf.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32426 Cc: 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> > Cc: 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:05:12 +0200 > > > Maybe we need to start a new discussion on emacs-devel, once you read > > that. > > Yes, that's needed. Started a discussion on emacs-devel. > But I know that the proposal to disable keyboard reading for all > threads but the main one is not working; see my example in > bug#32426. I'm not surprised. > Perhaps we need this also for other events, D-Bus and file notifications > come to mind. Possibly, but those seem like an easier nut to crack: AFAIU, each time we need to watch for D-Bus events, we register a file descriptor for that, and deregister it when we no longer need it, is that right? If so, we could easily make these descriptors watched only by the thread that registered the watch, the infrastructure for that already exists. By contrast, there's only one keyboard descriptor.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32426; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2018 10:05:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 14 06:05:26 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fpWCc-00043i-1P for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 06:05:26 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:58275) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1fpWCY-000435-Iz for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 06:05:22 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.243.205]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MM0bQ-1foQnW0QJQ-007nvi; Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:05:14 +0200 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#32426: 27.0.50; Loosing key bindings in threads References: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> <87zhxqv4tz.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sh3ijpql.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 12:05:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83sh3ijpql.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:38:42 +0300") Message-ID: <87pnyluuuf.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:KqBTBOp4aQsWWZOLgLtcCq1ed1nc1O/++65hst1yFt+o84XRiM1 fivtDJcu4M+mW5sKXODwQpXJPi98ygF/8qXjisC/8MkB8HD99vKjHNkrOh76/2a8HS+bQZk 56AnA23UvjGInhmexXH3rtAqSFiyBj8cI0MUD/ppFpe2WhQrBqMVy6+V9zGTTZR1oJ6G5NB KcW8m2Eg+wOG15zVJW7DQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:/MiKWnW5qeo=:ztSu9Ghr81fWiOZei99OIY qyhWEAxH1f+PiRIHOAYRSTMPyqqgoVv5Udkn9Xt6S/giiFuxOwPRBQFeZiZfvlMrVerftxz54 tUsb5/ylI0z6xi7qxXpei1aeMQklhYHWMUOtJWgFeDleftkvBLzJv1wC8zp3PrNX1Lxg6Ku9k 3v54D09xGFlfveca95he05c61DcqLmCcykSMaxC2kzUtpzhQlPnePNTXBmVQWqtw5B9mDzXHk p0f8DByA06RRD0uAnu+IBHUDBSi4kM707IYOZHgyVQoZRfbsWUvrGwap5bani/S5DCG1K92bv PXNDy1CW+WPY5PRsqFS6xcgLqHVMYUzQKv9RUNdN+3CmXRRdW3AI4RU5Bf/4NHNObBoIqXrbS LoLc765YF+kFpm0JF1EvJ39fiHcnKYX1Z952oqNpGomRfBz3WSeP93UuVrW/5mdtyP1EJgoaG vsp9FqswWWD6VwlWMO7BaWbm3A9v+ki1ftjETX6TXySk3Fxt5AMANQqkV3HC2sEfm5wHjM1iz cwimNZAh3HqcqZtHdjdGUlhjAD9UkgtIG/Y7Aa7b0jtoUpWq452cF76SeARsH78CvnAry0V8d ohSKIPn4ifAPZzU1x9cf1p9rMQ/RqFA+bcHeyY9hdHjVjRdNTucTAEbHTq2Qtuhhpaet29n5D 6MlPpcpZYvq+9StxY5fuKBwX3KDQVAgRNXIGxWV/qBzyuq7bLVmsbhgYeNcXvpg8abDxveNg6 q+6U5Wxkt3uj4JwDcNmrlCSv8dhuiRf5044sloHIT3BxBknYkSMLCdzsD973VhRU0Pr0B8VQd bWGQi/G X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32426 Cc: 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Eli, > I don't know, the discussion never reached any concrete conclusions. > (And the more I think about that, the less I understand how a message > pump could help: after all, keyboard input is already a kind of > "message pump", on the OS level. It seems we'd eventually have the > same problem: how to allow multiple threads to read from the message > pump.) > > Some additional discussion was in this thread: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-12/msg00607.html > > Maybe we need to start a new discussion on emacs-devel, once you read > that. Yes, that's needed. I have also no idea how to fix. But I know that the proposal to disable keyboard reading for all threads but the main one is not working; see my example in bug#32426. Perhaps we need this also for other events, D-Bus and file notifications come to mind. I fear I'm not the best one to reanimate this discussion. Keyboard handling in Emacs is terra incognita for me. Best regards, Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#32426; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 32426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2018 14:38:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 13 10:38:46 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fpDza-0005Oe-DP for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:38:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpDzY-0005OQ-AS for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:38:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpDzQ-00068k-0L for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:38:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52701) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpDzP-00068e-T0; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:38:35 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1613 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fpDzP-00056J-Cg; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:38:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:38:42 +0300 Message-Id: <83sh3ijpql.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <87zhxqv4tz.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Michael Albinus on Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:17:12 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#32426: 27.0.50; Loosing key bindings in threads References: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> <87zhxqv4tz.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32426 Cc: 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> > Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:17:12 +0200 > > > See bug#25214. > > Thanks, I've merged both bugs. Bug#25214 has the analysis, but I don't > know which direction we want to continue. Using a message pump, as > proposed by Clément? I don't know, the discussion never reached any concrete conclusions. (And the more I think about that, the less I understand how a message pump could help: after all, keyboard input is already a kind of "message pump", on the OS level. It seems we'd eventually have the same problem: how to allow multiple threads to read from the message pump.) Some additional discussion was in this thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-12/msg00607.html Maybe we need to start a new discussion on emacs-devel, once you read that.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2018 12:17:25 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 13 08:17:25 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fpBmn-0001KD-2h for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:17:25 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:37121) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1fpBmk-0001F7-Hx for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 08:17:23 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([178.20.90.0]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M3MAG-1g6r7s0YkK-00qzyC; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:17:16 +0200 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#32426: 27.0.50; Loosing key bindings in threads References: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 14:17:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 13 Aug 2018 12:39:30 +0300") Message-ID: <87zhxqv4tz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:RJHXVCYd3mkqJIb8etNVXnxFjhcB3K/miDPA1Q97EwqLPiM0eNC Y8IRz4rq0zhace+AcYx6fBSKV4KQRv2+bKFXDZakRFkIyYTxprkfnDGb3yyROJEurDQoG8C nIQMMrp+VJdyIQeZoc3amdEZb3T8G9JgaVD116LMH+PZyI17notL4aQ1KreNg5D059VGs08 3pY0kh65ewxkCkK4YBG/A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pSJgCJZkm5g=:V+y8UlUpR6Ta6w4MzhPjzs Z/ZW4g4SrpnH8dTRrO70fT+agXTAPntE8t32BH7spvMGpYpT857InnRIAhuwa36B9tpm9sSL4 sKs/4WUIoEVadzgDSYKvG6tNBrDOm5Vcb6sb24VOGQW8AUtyOogORZIDC8MG1R3eZQA7MY+FB 1+ey7bRIBYfvu8miM9jxKdunBmuYGCkztWP2MYhqk9iaZHg14y22gRmEWjBcM1qXj9TwHmzKH U14uqiKZYNiertRLras+9ymfDdEyT8hGQvyg5iTlkPTNmDFlS11Tov7ntPNNbE/Ch6t19t8Mq Wbwd1seIL7paUSgZo50ylUg7NJ6QxtnfFwlCoVOQBOPsG0ewfPFEc6XGB7cEYwIjKq0y2mWTu V2nCDkgikYd37yutTnByP9JjDBbjNT57qMWE/fdhD13MHn2QHwwCQpnUSGTNuYqe5ri/l0nXv kZk2zsxmULyWxmWfda/g3gvM0F6tZHyLpbbCqs2rEMPgy8A7Y6mXufwR7LtEUC2WfWHKzqhLM oQ/neO2VuXw6vR4689Mufba2OewHtzw+mkrnMUZwDOjXH/Q69OdZY4bEINz//gUNBAcN26wsi NinaBTdjvTvYKHGvO+a6dwJsAbcplkmvGDjTtAkUTKIo2EF5uvMgnkPd3+uCSDPShipBL8RRZ jhH0uZz3vfbO27kPC9Sq9RhckdXUlsrVmgNAwjJ+yzPCMN3ukrtgnW6WXo5gp8soooJ2mSo1F 8c1GDxKgIplKdTXJghz+Eu1cLnoXvfUVfexe1xWEZgPDhGEUH/dDuCXDaSW+i4AAUx8JRXFwD AExpslb X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32426 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Eli, > See bug#25214. Thanks, I've merged both bugs. Bug#25214 has the analysis, but I don't know which direction we want to continue. Using a message pump, as proposed by Cl=C3=A9ment? Best regards, Michael.
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Thanks, I've merged both bugs. Bug#25214 has the analysis, but I don't know which direction we want to continue. Using a message pump, as proposed by Cl=C3=A9ment? Best regards, Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 32426) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2018 09:39:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 13 05:39:51 2018 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1fp9KJ-0008Oi-FZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:39:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34449) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fp9KH-0008OD-BP for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:39:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fp9KB-0003ZB-J6 for 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:39:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fp9K3-0003Sr-OX; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:39:35 -0400 Received: from [176.13.8.54] (port=23641 helo=[10.130.45.248]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1fp9K2-0005RH-TS; Mon, 13 Aug 2018 05:39:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 12:39:30 +0300 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <87mutq1wyh.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: bug#32426: 27.0.50; Loosing key bindings in threads To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN, Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>, 32426 <at> debbugs.gnu.org From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <FE654AB0-A81C-4832-BCE5-14F4BDF693B5@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 32426 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) On August 13, 2018 11:40:06 AM GMT+03:00, Michael Albinus <michael=2Ealbinu= s@gmx=2Ede> wrote: >=20 > This is about the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch=2E The bug seems to > be > related to the threads implementation in general; that branch is used > only because it is simpler to demonstrate=2E >=20 > I have two files, a=2Etest and b=2Etest=2E Both files have the same cont= ents >=20 > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > Local Variables: > risky-variable: nil > End: > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >=20 > I open both files asynchronously via "C-x & C-x C-f *=2Etest"=2E The > buffer > *Local Variables* is displayed, and in the minibuffer I'm asked > "Please > type y, n, or !, or C-v to scroll:"=2E Whatever key I type, I get "y is > undefined"=2E >=20 > I have no idea how to debug this=2E See bug#25214=2E
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The bug seems to be related to the threads implementation in general; that branch is used only because it is simpler to demonstrate. I have two files, a.test and b.test. Both files have the same contents --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Local Variables: risky-variable: nil End: --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I open both files asynchronously via "C-x & C-x C-f *.test". The buffer *Local Variables* is displayed, and in the minibuffer I'm asked "Please type y, n, or !, or C-v to scroll:". Whatever key I type, I get "y is undefined". I have no idea how to debug this. 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Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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