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User's customization to completion-styles requires tweak to completion-category-defaults

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Package: emacs; Reported by: João Távora <joaotavora@HIDDEN>; dated Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:23:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 2:20 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
> > From: Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora <joaotavora@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:02:03 +0000
> > Cc: 38101 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > Sure thing.
> >
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-11/msg00227.html
>
> Thanks, but I see no references there to completion-category-defaults
> or anything along those lines.

It's on line 23-24 of the linked email's body.

As I wrote, this is the problem:

JT >  completion-category-defaults
JT > needs to be tweaked to "unshadow" the user's customization to
JT > completion-styles.

This means that if you customize completion-styles, you also need
to tweak completion-category-defaults, because the latter shadows
the former. Stefan thinks this is a bug, and so do I.

Moreover, Stefan has stated that you need to "constantly" tweak
completion-category-defaults because other packages might
add to it.

I haven't analyzed the problem sufficiently to tell you _why_ the
shadowing happens, just that it happens.

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> From: João Távora <joaotavora@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 16:02:03 +0000
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> Sure thing.
> 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-11/msg00227.html

Thanks, but I see no references there to completion-category-defaults
or anything along those lines.

Perhaps Stefan or someone else could describe the actual problem in
this bug report?

TIA




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Sure thing.

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-11/msg00227.html

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> From: João Távora <joaotavora@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:09:04 +0000
> Cc: 38101 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
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> > Please help me to find this conversation by giving some URL or Subject
> > and Date.
> 
> Sorry Eli, this was sent to me off-list by Stefan.  I just noticed it now.
> (Also very sorry Stefan, this was a mistake).
> 
> Eli, the conversation you want is in Emacs devel, a reply of mine
> to Oscar Fuentes yesterday, with a subject that includes "fido-mode".

Thanks, but that thread is huge, and you've posted quite a lot there.
Could you perhaps state the URL of that message in the emacs-devel
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 2:46 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:
> > Hi maintainers,
> >
> > As you can read in the above conversation, completion-category-defaults
> > needs to be tweaked to "unshadow" the user's customization to
> > completion-styles.
>
> Please help me to find this conversation by giving some URL or Subject
> and Date.

Sorry Eli, this was sent to me off-list by Stefan.  I just noticed it now.
(Also very sorry Stefan, this was a mistake).

Eli, the conversation you want is in Emacs devel, a reply of mine
to Oscar Fuentes yesterday, with a subject that includes "fido-mode".

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> From: João Távora <joaotavora@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:22:29 +0000
> 
> > >     (setq completion-styles '(flex))
> > >     (setq completion-category-defaults nil )
> >
> > Ha, I was just thinking about that: could you open a bug report about
> > the need for tweaking completion-category-defaults?
> > Note: the above `setq` isn't enough because packages can (and do) add
> > themselves to completion-category-defaults later on.
> >
> >         Stefan
> 
> Hi maintainers,
> 
> As you can read in the above conversation, completion-category-defaults
> needs to be tweaked to "unshadow" the user's customization to
> completion-styles.

Please help me to find this conversation by giving some URL or Subject
and Date.

Thanks.




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> >     (setq completion-styles '(flex))
> >     (setq completion-category-defaults nil )
>
> Ha, I was just thinking about that: could you open a bug report about
> the need for tweaking completion-category-defaults?
> Note: the above `setq` isn't enough because packages can (and do) add
> themselves to completion-category-defaults later on.
>
>         Stefan

Hi maintainers,

As you can read in the above conversation, completion-category-defaults
needs to be tweaked to "unshadow" the user's customization to
completion-styles.

This is a bug report to track any possible improvements that can be done
in this regard.

Jo=C3=A3o




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