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envelope-from=spwhitton@HIDDEN; helo=wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/30 01:29:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Hello, Eshell's docs advertise it as a replacement for IELM, but one IELM feature that Eshell doesn't have is an equivalent to C-c C-b, or, ielm-change-working-buffer. It would be great to have something like this. -- Sean Whitton
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X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#42612: 28.0.50; Eshell: support setting working buffer like IELM Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.42612.B42612.15961149339936 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42612 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> Cc: 42612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 42612-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B42612.15961149339936 (code B ref 42612); Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 42612) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2020 13:15:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1k18PA-0002a4-GF for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:15:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1k18P9-0002Zt-QX for 42612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:15:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37749) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1k18P4-0004iA-J6; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:15:22 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1219 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1k18P4-0001yc-4o; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:15:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:15:05 +0300 Message-Id: <834kppf8km.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87o8nx1sfj.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Sean Whitton on Wed, 29 Jul 2020 22:29:52 -0700) References: <87o8nx1sfj.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 22:29:52 -0700 > > Eshell's docs advertise it as a replacement for IELM, but one IELM > feature that Eshell doesn't have is an equivalent to C-c C-b, or, > ielm-change-working-buffer. It would be great to have something like > this. Like "C-u M-x eshell RET"? If that's not what you wanted, then perhaps I don't quite understand what you meant by running Eshell in another buffer.
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It would be great to have something like >> this. > > Like "C-u M-x eshell RET"? > > If that's not what you wanted, then perhaps I don't quite understand > what you meant by running Eshell in another buffer. No, not what I had in mind. In IELM you can type C-c C-b and select a buffer, and then when you eval further sexps in *ielm*, it will be as if you used M-: with that other buffer selected. Useful for debugging a major or minor mode. In Eshell the closest thing you can do is wrap your sexps in a (with-current-buffer) form, or use (progn (set-buffer ...) ...), which is less convenient. -- Sean Whitton
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN Subject: bug#42612: 28.0.50; Eshell: support setting working buffer like IELM Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.42612.B42612.159612882216666 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42612 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> Cc: 42612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 42612-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B42612.159612882216666 (code B ref 42612); Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 42612) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2020 17:07:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1k1C1F-0004Ke-I9 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:07:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37614) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1k1C1D-0004KM-Bc for 42612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:07:00 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1k1C17-0000Nj-8C; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:06:53 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4496 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1k1C16-00060k-Ha; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:06:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 20:06:36 +0300 Message-Id: <83v9i5djab.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87lfj10wz8.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Sean Whitton on Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:49:15 -0700) References: <87o8nx1sfj.fsf@HIDDEN> <834kppf8km.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfj10wz8.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@HIDDEN> > Cc: 42612 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:49:15 -0700 > > In IELM you can type C-c C-b and select a buffer, and then when you eval > further sexps in *ielm*, it will be as if you used M-: with that other > buffer selected. Useful for debugging a major or minor mode. > > In Eshell the closest thing you can do is wrap your sexps in a > (with-current-buffer) form, or use (progn (set-buffer ...) ...), which > is less convenient. Eshell is a shell. What is the semantics of running a shell in a buffer? The only semantics I can think of is to run the shell in the default-directory of that buffer.
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What is the semantics of running a shell in a > buffer? The only semantics I can think of is to run the shell in the > default-directory of that buffer. (info "(eshell) Top") says [Eshell] is intended to be an alternative to the IELM REPL for Emacs and with an interface similar to command shells ... The functionality of setting a working buffer would be for when Eshell is being used as an alternative to IELM, and it would have the same semantics as the equivalent functionality in IELM. I agree that when Eshell is being used as a command shell the only significant thing would be default-directory. -- Sean Whitton
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