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Bob Proulx wrote:
> Where is the seed that the search engines start with to crawl the db
> tree? I couldn't find it.
The db pages are linked from the main page https://debbugs.gnu.org/
Is that what you are asking? ("static indices")
> But the upstream allows the robots to crawl the cgi main bug ticket
> display pages. Maybe they have better resources. Was this allowed on
> debbugs previously and then blocked due to load problems?
That is my recollection, but it has been a long time.
> I am wondering if we should allow it again as a test and then see what
> the current state of things results. Because then the main pages
> would be indexed and this would also avoid the problem. WDYT?
My initial thought is that it is not a good idea, but feel free to try
it out.
Another idea is that if /usr/lib/debbugs/db2html is impenetrable, just
stick a "formail -I Received:" somewhere near the end of it?
Not the most efficient method, but if it works, may be good enough.
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Glenn Morris wrote:
> Note that the "db view tree" is the part that gets indexed by search
> engines. Search engines are (obviously) denied from the cgi bug pages,
> for reasons of system load. So if you get rid of the db pages, it will
> be impossible to search debbugs reports using standard web search
> engines.
I know I asked this in the mailing list but I am going to repeat it
here so it is in the ticket and then add some more.
Where is the seed that the search engines start with to crawl the db
tree? I couldn't find it.
Meanwhile... I find this difference between the systems.
https://debbugs.gnu.org/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin/
Disallow: /cgi/
As you say debbugs blocks the robots that comply.
https://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt
User-Agent: Googlebot
User-Agent: bingbot
User-Agent: yandexbot
User-Agent: baiduspider
User-Agent: ia_archiver
Allow: /cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=
Allow: /cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=*;dist=unstable$
Disallow: /*/
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
But the upstream allows the robots to crawl the cgi main bug ticket
display pages. Maybe they have better resources. Was this allowed on
debbugs previously and then blocked due to load problems?
I am wondering if we should allow it again as a test and then see what
the current state of things results. Because then the main pages
would be indexed and this would also avoid the problem. WDYT?
Bob
Me who keeps making crazy brainstorm suggestions and hoping that maybe
eventually one of them might work out beneficially. :-)
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Bob Proulx wrote:
> Okay then! I'll look at it. Won't be today. I'll put it on the task
> queue. Good that I see it is in Perl as that is a good language for
> me. I don't see where address hidden is done there but I am sure it
> will become clear when digging into it.
Thanks!
Debbugs is all perl. :)
My kludge for hiding emails in /usr/lib/debbugs/db2html was the
hide_address_total function. I don't know if a similar strategy will
work for removing the full mail headers.
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Bob Proulx wrote:
> Okay then! I'll look at it. Won't be today. I'll put it on the task
> queue. Good that I see it is in Perl as that is a good language for
> me. I don't see where address hidden is done there but I am sure it
> will become clear when digging into it.
Thanks!
Debbugs is all perl. :)
My kludge for hiding emails in /usr/lib/debbugs/db2html was the
hide_address_total function. I don't know if a similar strategy will
work for removing the full mail headers.
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Full text available.Received: (at 43073-submitter) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2020 21:24:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 03 16:24:01 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kkw53-00076a-Bp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 16:24:01 -0500 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:50542) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bob@HIDDEN>) id 1kkw51-00076C-RR; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 16:24:00 -0500 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B533323; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 14:23:54 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1607030634; bh=XQV2+FgzyE3f2j0EqlHZcpD+joSzTb60tfH5YShSd6U=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=j/wNk24clePhUe86iIbkVRqzJCA+BullH/go9eY+tqjFD+GpUt56hG1wRWGD81JiV ZoQZ37UB49MqmIBzekCCgTkk6I0g0cbyfvBr5v5zEG+DiJ7W9NZUFsRd7ZKR8zLxKZ qv/Uai92A0f+rtt3sn2CQD68xCkEkdUOfuV8+EwX3bt78FFn59i4vKVckESF4yucdm PvTONpaR2WEacoaFfczDGYsfk6iVjWRAW0k5C1wikNDl+78FLt1IoyGGipBW+8uq1C VNvtgvaZ7Y5YSH4G83ngONNbgo4TMMt7EJE7uYst2BDDV3gufPHCB/XmF+nQsffLGS AAVREfKevj3+Q== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9A121152; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 14:23:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3509D2DC9E; Thu, 3 Dec 2020 14:23:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 14:23:54 -0700 From: Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> To: 43073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#43073: Trim/hide full email headers on debbugs Message-ID: <20201203140606640710457@HIDDEN> References: <20201202234500077292069@HIDDEN> <0lwnxykefu.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0lwnxykefu.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43073-submitter Cc: 43073-submitter <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Glenn Morris wrote: > Note that the "db view tree" is the part that gets indexed by search > engines. Hmm... That does explain why when people are complaining that they are complaining about the db tree view and not the "main" view. (Main in IMNHO since the regular report display is the one I use.) > Search engines are (obviously) denied from the cgi bug pages, > for reasons of system load. So if you get rid of the db pages, it will > be impossible to search debbugs reports using standard web search > engines. Well... That does create problems for my suggestion then. > There are ways around this, such as searches of the associated > bug mailing lists, and native search on debbugs.gnu.org, but it would > seem like a loss to me, for very little real gain. Agreed. Now that I learn this. > Note that the IP address is also in the mbox mailing list archives: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/mbox/bug-diffutils/2020-02 Yes. But I have yet to see anyone actually complain about those. (It's possible I have missed seeing a complaint. But I don't recall having seen one on the mbox archives.) > and now also in the help-debbugs mailing list archives (Streisand effect > ahoy). Right! The Streisand effect. The very act of trying to suppress something calls attention to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect Even better John Oliver did a (tremendously humorous but very irreverent, NSFW due to language) report on this topic too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ERajkMXw0#t=4m04s Usually it is better to let sleeping dogs lie. Otherwise attempts to suppress information will only serve to call attention to it. My best advice to people is to do nothing. > The right solution is probably to make the db pages not include full > header information, but of course that is more work. I think it is > /usr/lib/debbugs/db2html that would need patching (already patched to > hide email addresses). Okay then! I'll look at it. Won't be today. I'll put it on the task queue. Good that I see it is in Perl as that is a good language for me. I don't see where address hidden is done there but I am sure it will become clear when digging into it. Bob
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Hmm... That does explain why when people are complaining that they are complaining about the db tree view and not the "main" view. (Main in IMNHO since the regular report display is the one I use.) > Search engines are (obviously) denied from the cgi bug pages, > for reasons of system load. So if you get rid of the db pages, it will > be impossible to search debbugs reports using standard web search > engines. Well... That does create problems for my suggestion then. > There are ways around this, such as searches of the associated > bug mailing lists, and native search on debbugs.gnu.org, but it would > seem like a loss to me, for very little real gain. Agreed. Now that I learn this. > Note that the IP address is also in the mbox mailing list archives: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/mbox/bug-diffutils/2020-02 Yes. But I have yet to see anyone actually complain about those. (It's possible I have missed seeing a complaint. But I don't recall having seen one on the mbox archives.) > and now also in the help-debbugs mailing list archives (Streisand effect > ahoy). Right! The Streisand effect. The very act of trying to suppress something calls attention to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect Even better John Oliver did a (tremendously humorous but very irreverent, NSFW due to language) report on this topic too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ERajkMXw0#t=4m04s Usually it is better to let sleeping dogs lie. Otherwise attempts to suppress information will only serve to call attention to it. My best advice to people is to do nothing. > The right solution is probably to make the db pages not include full > header information, but of course that is more work. I think it is > /usr/lib/debbugs/db2html that would need patching (already patched to > hide email addresses). Okay then! I'll look at it. Won't be today. I'll put it on the task queue. Good that I see it is in Perl as that is a good language for me. I don't see where address hidden is done there but I am sure it will become clear when digging into it. Bob
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Hi Bob,
Bob Proulx wrote:
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/XY/XYABC.html
>
> I use the BTS a lot but really I had never looked at the db views
> before these complaints. Is there a use for the db views?
>
> What do people think of disabling the display of the entire db view
> tree? I propose to do this unless someone tells me not to.
Note that the "db view tree" is the part that gets indexed by search
engines. Search engines are (obviously) denied from the cgi bug pages,
for reasons of system load. So if you get rid of the db pages, it will
be impossible to search debbugs reports using standard web search
engines. There are ways around this, such as searches of the associated
bug mailing lists, and native search on debbugs.gnu.org, but it would
seem like a loss to me, for very little real gain.
Note that the IP address is also in the mbox mailing list archives:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/mbox/bug-diffutils/2020-02
and now also in the help-debbugs mailing list archives (Streisand effect
ahoy).
The right solution is probably to make the db pages not include full
header information, but of course that is more work. I think it is
/usr/lib/debbugs/db2html that would need patching (already patched to
hide email addresses).
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Full text available.Received: (at 43073-submitter) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2020 08:53:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 03 03:53:07 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kkkMN-0000Aa-II for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:53:07 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kkkMM-0000A4-Do; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:53:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vNcm0lu42iO0pqH2/Hw8E+omlTu7Lh36hbAger9Va3g=; b=TtIR31yRhMm89EgPk62kxucKt9 rFI33ZB5RGWIFOqjB7FI+oI1UzegR/TBDJO/g+ylbzwKpI+zXohbZD4xVER10OL36m96ADM/XMFTS DjK0YgCQXHEhPnlpOOyAPdTiU1QBr5xKkQ3Ai5fUwLSecHW9k1HdEtbMDcCg6jjj4fpw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kkkME-0001P6-6X; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:53:00 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#43073: Trim/hide full email headers on debbugs References: <20201202234500077292069@HIDDEN> <871rg7e1c3.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Now-Playing: Mia Doi Todd's _Floresta_: "O Vento" Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:52:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rg7e1c3.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:00 +0100") Message-ID: <87ft4nxod3.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes: > I add Lars as Cc. I know he's collecting stats about debbugs.org, and I > don't know whether he needs the db links for retrieval of data. I just use the debbugs-gnu interfaces when doing stats. Basically: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43073-submitter Cc: 43073-submitter <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 43073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes: > I add Lars as Cc. I know he's collecting stats about debbugs.org, and I > don't know whether he needs the db links for retrieval of data. I just use the debbugs-gnu interfaces when doing stats. Basically: (apply 'debbugs-get-status (debbugs-get-bugs :archive "both")) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 43073-submitter) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2020 08:33:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 03 03:33:10 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38196 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kkk33-0005yh-Qp for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:33:10 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:57435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1kkk32-0005yP-5x; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:33:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606984381; bh=Lo5YvzwOpg6S+BtcKmpu4puyxG/6cSsgfCzQntQ8v9k=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FI4StcGHXs33nvN8AslP0nSJduX2Sj9OIbJlJiy62+yTctfWVsfMn0Nq80kjDM8dt WtT3ILhJpMeG2hOGgbKDohz8rTazgnTzDAvRbBoMmj+RGBHOrantv2HCCDAobJ93dS Q88gxXwGjClX6+TTa+mpDTzI7oTcusdLrCIzXoB0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([212.86.43.49]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MhU5R-1kGe9W2J5X-00eZmG; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:01 +0100 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: 43073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#43073: Trim/hide full email headers on debbugs References: <20201202234500077292069@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20201202234500077292069@HIDDEN> (Bob Proulx's message of "Wed, 2 Dec 2020 23:57:28 -0700") Message-ID: <871rg7e1c3.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:7DElTUVpMC0vjUyruYX6ZwTbupXfyA/jG3AQSEWBkENtsor5IAJ OVBzCnnTO7z/7eNTdRaU+Vq7YWqBA5O6Io/XkdmQfir/T8zCUKQl8d/PUX+78tKbTPcyVLG 65Ppzz6ozmdioSS1QRQRTdr7eWKGpBw3yRaqOvVlLJeK9f9jJfnrdTbUSDvEG5Bk8bfve3H VjDCnB+16duUShqdC10PA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:vU9wXmoBWZs=:nw1hosMB0XSpZkaJrg7a0M HNeZYX4nxlv3f3fzKjR0+PUQ37t5VSYWmWtnK+HWkJw6qBeLGzaNTbisc1QBf7x6aOH9a83R0 2juzjRMZRoSYfHDK86elF5ooB5QR5CoYyPzlk9YNthRlFXYCgQvc5ry0AyTMOcC4gESdo8Ebi j4SvpD+rbC7Ua+yVMEj+acPaQQ4uisN4JVxVoaWW6aPYDggqzjlQ/RgecP6joB1L2liUZqAFi KMCSEzJK54EAN3ckYNAcRHRZddm0A4qFO8Jw8Bys0cEAdkcuxmrL3abS681TTBsDQr3j33msy yS6x+4DxxHt1lMgNVnIbWHJWlDMQ/3ldO+BlrwwNUVVIkx8xvoOqQVvTdxp2DMubmAmNmslRH eoCUqNvNyO05JzsKY604PAipFdLOo8rNVqi8SgTYTVm2MzUYmKAXRYq1Bgy2DV/0KKLV8GTyk fCExtiu5PiEoGkc2/JScxaMuBgEukEwQ11MmSVAnJU2DFdxi4e6zurvOQbRD8PwENPtXD6vc3 KCNwvex2XXeqFZE/tcQj83Yi275E2TiQZQXRn5OS+dKX6fNmvG1OVyxE/LQ7Ldmro6PQYB89D 3FtIR7I4ySlHxCLChRdc0GT5UaNZS/Q/XxDJ9fvvYmlvDYjjkvXpHADKaXD8DYwMYe8joRg0L N8evo6pAerqZWmT3S9XTwcgAgXsw9FwjUhQz0gR5zyE+B8Kc6GTVhWok7I9FKF7pRcliSfIxw /KOy4XqftpCQYz6d49s7y1sp1JLaUibaYnk6rmxmhrvqHpfXRnxnwDsV5qBj2HMDxfFrPul8a eSP+AUT7nmvMG6ARBqLTZHElgTybDKEFIZsDpFN5AltzoTaa2fF1h0UDu7HTSWjwEPjnyoe8f YbmYidRTZ4NduY0vqM6g== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43073-submitter Cc: 43073-submitter <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Bob, > I see we have yet another complaint about IP addresses. Two if I > count the other mailing list complaint too. Personally I have no > understanding of what people are thinking with regards to IP > addresses. I think I will blame Hollywood movies on it. Hollywood > makes people think it means something that it does not mean. > > In any case yet again the complaint was about the db links. It's > really only the db tree view that people are complaining about. > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/XY/XYABC.html > > I use the BTS a lot but really I had never looked at the db views > before these complaints. Is there a use for the db views? > > What do people think of disabling the display of the entire db view > tree? I propose to do this unless someone tells me not to. > > Just keep it simple and take the brute force and ignorance approach > and add in another apache server rewrite rule redirect so that the > entire tree is redirected to the document root. In one action that > would make all of those views unavailable and perhaps would stop the > complaints. WDYT? Looks reasonable to me. I add Lars as Cc. I know he's collecting stats about debbugs.org, and I don't know whether he needs the db links for retrieval of data. > Bob Best regards, Michael.
Ruben Rodriguez <ruben@HIDDEN>:Received: (at 43073) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2020 08:33:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 03 03:33:10 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38198 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kkk34-0005yk-36 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:33:10 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:57435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1kkk32-0005yP-5x; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:33:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606984381; bh=Lo5YvzwOpg6S+BtcKmpu4puyxG/6cSsgfCzQntQ8v9k=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=FI4StcGHXs33nvN8AslP0nSJduX2Sj9OIbJlJiy62+yTctfWVsfMn0Nq80kjDM8dt WtT3ILhJpMeG2hOGgbKDohz8rTazgnTzDAvRbBoMmj+RGBHOrantv2HCCDAobJ93dS Q88gxXwGjClX6+TTa+mpDTzI7oTcusdLrCIzXoB0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([212.86.43.49]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MhU5R-1kGe9W2J5X-00eZmG; Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:01 +0100 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: 43073 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#43073: Trim/hide full email headers on debbugs References: <20201202234500077292069@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20201202234500077292069@HIDDEN> (Bob Proulx's message of "Wed, 2 Dec 2020 23:57:28 -0700") Message-ID: <871rg7e1c3.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:7DElTUVpMC0vjUyruYX6ZwTbupXfyA/jG3AQSEWBkENtsor5IAJ OVBzCnnTO7z/7eNTdRaU+Vq7YWqBA5O6Io/XkdmQfir/T8zCUKQl8d/PUX+78tKbTPcyVLG 65Ppzz6ozmdioSS1QRQRTdr7eWKGpBw3yRaqOvVlLJeK9f9jJfnrdTbUSDvEG5Bk8bfve3H VjDCnB+16duUShqdC10PA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:vU9wXmoBWZs=:nw1hosMB0XSpZkaJrg7a0M HNeZYX4nxlv3f3fzKjR0+PUQ37t5VSYWmWtnK+HWkJw6qBeLGzaNTbisc1QBf7x6aOH9a83R0 2juzjRMZRoSYfHDK86elF5ooB5QR5CoYyPzlk9YNthRlFXYCgQvc5ry0AyTMOcC4gESdo8Ebi j4SvpD+rbC7Ua+yVMEj+acPaQQ4uisN4JVxVoaWW6aPYDggqzjlQ/RgecP6joB1L2liUZqAFi KMCSEzJK54EAN3ckYNAcRHRZddm0A4qFO8Jw8Bys0cEAdkcuxmrL3abS681TTBsDQr3j33msy yS6x+4DxxHt1lMgNVnIbWHJWlDMQ/3ldO+BlrwwNUVVIkx8xvoOqQVvTdxp2DMubmAmNmslRH eoCUqNvNyO05JzsKY604PAipFdLOo8rNVqi8SgTYTVm2MzUYmKAXRYq1Bgy2DV/0KKLV8GTyk fCExtiu5PiEoGkc2/JScxaMuBgEukEwQ11MmSVAnJU2DFdxi4e6zurvOQbRD8PwENPtXD6vc3 KCNwvex2XXeqFZE/tcQj83Yi275E2TiQZQXRn5OS+dKX6fNmvG1OVyxE/LQ7Ldmro6PQYB89D 3FtIR7I4ySlHxCLChRdc0GT5UaNZS/Q/XxDJ9fvvYmlvDYjjkvXpHADKaXD8DYwMYe8joRg0L N8evo6pAerqZWmT3S9XTwcgAgXsw9FwjUhQz0gR5zyE+B8Kc6GTVhWok7I9FKF7pRcliSfIxw /KOy4XqftpCQYz6d49s7y1sp1JLaUibaYnk6rmxmhrvqHpfXRnxnwDsV5qBj2HMDxfFrPul8a eSP+AUT7nmvMG6ARBqLTZHElgTybDKEFIZsDpFN5AltzoTaa2fF1h0UDu7HTSWjwEPjnyoe8f YbmYidRTZ4NduY0vqM6g== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43073 Cc: 43073-submitter <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, help-debbugs@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Bob Proulx <bob@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Bob, > I see we have yet another complaint about IP addresses. Two if I > count the other mailing list complaint too. Personally I have no > understanding of what people are thinking with regards to IP > addresses. I think I will blame Hollywood movies on it. Hollywood > makes people think it means something that it does not mean. > > In any case yet again the complaint was about the db links. It's > really only the db tree view that people are complaining about. > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/XY/XYABC.html > > I use the BTS a lot but really I had never looked at the db views > before these complaints. Is there a use for the db views? > > What do people think of disabling the display of the entire db view > tree? I propose to do this unless someone tells me not to. > > Just keep it simple and take the brute force and ignorance approach > and add in another apache server rewrite rule redirect so that the > entire tree is redirected to the document root. In one action that > would make all of those views unavailable and perhaps would stop the > complaints. WDYT? Looks reasonable to me. I add Lars as Cc. I know he's collecting stats about debbugs.org, and I don't know whether he needs the db links for retrieval of data. > Bob Best regards, Michael.
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I see we have yet another complaint about IP addresses. Two if I
count the other mailing list complaint too. Personally I have no
understanding of what people are thinking with regards to IP
addresses. I think I will blame Hollywood movies on it. Hollywood
makes people think it means something that it does not mean.
In any case yet again the complaint was about the db links. It's
really only the db tree view that people are complaining about.
https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/XY/XYABC.html
I use the BTS a lot but really I had never looked at the db views
before these complaints. Is there a use for the db views?
What do people think of disabling the display of the entire db view
tree? I propose to do this unless someone tells me not to.
Just keep it simple and take the brute force and ignorance approach
and add in another apache server rewrite rule redirect so that the
entire tree is redirected to the document root. In one action that
would make all of those views unavailable and perhaps would stop the
complaints. WDYT?
Bob
Ruben Rodriguez <ruben@HIDDEN>:
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I see we have yet another complaint about IP addresses. Two if I
count the other mailing list complaint too. Personally I have no
understanding of what people are thinking with regards to IP
addresses. I think I will blame Hollywood movies on it. Hollywood
makes people think it means something that it does not mean.
In any case yet again the complaint was about the db links. It's
really only the db tree view that people are complaining about.
https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/XY/XYABC.html
I use the BTS a lot but really I had never looked at the db views
before these complaints. Is there a use for the db views?
What do people think of disabling the display of the entire db view
tree? I propose to do this unless someone tells me not to.
Just keep it simple and take the brute force and ignorance approach
and add in another apache server rewrite rule redirect so that the
entire tree is redirected to the document root. In one action that
would make all of those views unavailable and perhaps would stop the
complaints. WDYT?
Bob
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Bob Proulx wrote:
> I also note that there is nothing new under the sun. This is really a
> duplicate of the upstream BTS Debian Bug#63995.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/63995
I would say it is kind of new, since I don't recall seeing the specific
complaint "I object to full email headers being shown" before.
IMO debbugs.gnu.org is a bit better than bugs.debian.org in this area,
since the former does at least basic email obscuration, and in fact
tries to totally remove email addresses from the static pages such as
https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/39/39688.html (which are the ones indexed by
search engines). I think a better link for that ara would be
https://debbugs.gnu.org/14811
I don't see much value in having the full headers in the static db
pages, so it seems fine to me if someone wants to remove them. (Obviously
they will remain in the downloadable mbox files.) But debbugs.gnu.org
development is moribund.
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Ruben Rodriguez wrote:
> RT ticket 1599321 requests not showing full email headers on debbugs, a
> privacy violation. I'm sending this on behalf of the reporter, please DTRT.
On IRC this URL was passed as being in the original report:
rwp: the requestor referenced this link: https://debbugs.gnu.org/db/39/39688.html
That is an alternative view to:
https://bugs.debian.org/63995
I also note that there is nothing new under the sun. This is really a
duplicate of the upstream BTS Debian Bug#63995.
https://bugs.debian.org/63995
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