GNU bug report logs - #43830
keyboard layout handling incompatible with rest of the OS

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 6 Oct 2020 15:35:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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I use English and Russian keyboard layouts. For every single application I
don't need to care which layout is currently selected for shortcuts, e.g.
Ctrl+S and Ctrl+=D0=AB do the same (S and =D0=AB are on the same physical k=
ey). Of
course, in Emacs it doesn't work this way: C-s triggers Isearch, but C-=D1=
=8B
"is undefined".

I know that Emacs reinvents the wheel by providing built-in input methods
(switchable by C-\), which does the remapping. However, it is very
user-unfriendly at least for two reasons:

- it is a different key compared to everything else I use; my normal
"Shift+Shift" way of switching keyboard layouts is already part of
mechanical memory and having to use something else is very inconvenient;

- *all* of my configuration for XKB is of course gone if I try using Emacs
input methods; e.g. special handling of the right Alt key (AltGr), which is
very important to quickly type characters only available on English layout.

Paul

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I use English and Russian keyboard layouts. For every sing=
le application I don&#39;t need to care which layout is currently selected =
for shortcuts, e.g. Ctrl+S and Ctrl+=D0=AB do the same (S and =D0=AB are on=
 the same physical key). Of course, in Emacs it doesn&#39;t work this way: =
C-s triggers Isearch, but C-=D1=8B &quot;is undefined&quot;.<div><br></div>=
<div>I know that Emacs reinvents the wheel by providing built-in input meth=
ods (switchable by C-\), which does the remapping. However, it is very user=
-unfriendly at least for two reasons:</div><div><br></div><div>- it is a di=
fferent key compared to everything else I use; my normal &quot;Shift+Shift&=
quot; way of switching keyboard layouts is already part of mechanical memor=
y and having to use something else is very inconvenient;</div><div><br></di=
v><div>- *all* of my configuration for XKB is of course gone if I try using=
 Emacs input methods; e.g. special handling of the right Alt key (AltGr), w=
hich is very important to quickly type characters only available on English=
 layout.</div><div><br></div><div>Paul</div></div>

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Acknowledgement sent to Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@HIDDEN>:
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