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Full text available.Received: (at 49379) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2021 20:40:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 04 16:40:36 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43298 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1m08uq-00032r-4I for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 16:40:36 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:58625) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1m08un-00032X-If; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 16:40:34 -0400 Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3EE39C0004; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 20:40:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Petr Losev <wowpetr@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#49379: 27.1; Shortcuts don't work with Russian layout active on Linux (Ubuntu) Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <93e468ce-66b1-7b84-0012-33c8c4aa70aa@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2021 23:29:44 +0300 In-Reply-To: <93e468ce-66b1-7b84-0012-33c8c4aa70aa@HIDDEN> (Petr Losev's message of "Sun, 4 Jul 2021 14:35:12 +0300") Message-ID: <87sg0tamg7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49379 Cc: 49379 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) merge 43830 49379 thanks > There are no shortcuts seem to be working when Russian layout is active. > > I change layouts with <Super>+Space. You could use the package https://github.com/a13/reverse-im.el or help us to implement the same natively in https://debbugs.gnu.org/43830
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[109.252.126.168]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f9sm1055558ljf.73.2021.07.04.07.30.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jul 2021 07:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#49379: 27.1; Shortcuts don't work with Russian layout active on Linux (Ubuntu) To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> References: <93e468ce-66b1-7b84-0012-33c8c4aa70aa@HIDDEN> <831r8ei47j.fsf@HIDDEN> <e75543aa-d937-ccf4-cf7b-72dc15b90ba4@HIDDEN> <83wnq6goff.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Petr Losev <wowpetr@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <8a95d217-1038-5ff8-f21f-36c5ac543b91@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 17:30:15 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83wnq6goff.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49379 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Jul 2021 12:40:45 -0400 Cc: 49379 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) You're right, any keys with modifiers don't work in Russian layout on Emacs, but some of them do work on the Terminal in Ubuntu (at least keys with <Ctrl>), so I can for example type command on the terminal: "sudo apt update", switch to Russian layout then press <Ctrl+A> or <Ctrl+E> to move the cursor to the beginning/end of the command. Combinations with <Alt> key don't work for me either on the Terminal. On 7/4/21 5:10 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > [Please use Reply All to keep the bug address on the CC list.] > >> From: Petr Losev <wowpetr@HIDDEN> >> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 16:51:43 +0300 >> >> Any shortcuts related to the text editor, e.g. Ctrl-n, Ctrl-p for moving >> to the next/previous line in the text editor while editing text. > So you mean that keys with modifiers (Ctrl, Meta, etc.) don't work? I > think it's a known limitation on X (it works as expected on > MS-Windows). Emacs reads the keys on a level where retrieving the > hardware keys and then translating them to the English equivalents is > not easy.
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Full text available.Received: (at 49379) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2021 13:44:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 04 09:44:21 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1m02Q0-0003wS-UE for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 09:44:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m02Pz-0003wA-1v for 49379 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 09:44:19 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m02Pt-0002m1-QW; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 09:44:13 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2584 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1m02Pt-00056K-CZ; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 09:44:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2021 16:44:16 +0300 Message-Id: <831r8ei47j.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Petr Losev <wowpetr@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <93e468ce-66b1-7b84-0012-33c8c4aa70aa@HIDDEN> (message from Petr Losev on Sun, 4 Jul 2021 14:35:12 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#49379: 27.1; Shortcuts don't work with Russian layout active on Linux (Ubuntu) References: <93e468ce-66b1-7b84-0012-33c8c4aa70aa@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49379 Cc: 49379 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Petr Losev <wowpetr@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 14:35:12 +0300 > > There are no shortcuts seem to be working when Russian layout is active. > > I change layouts with <Super>+Space. > > Ubuntu 21.04. Which shortcuts did you try and they didn't work? Thanks.
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[109.252.126.168]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bu15sm772853lfb.292.2021.07.04.04.35.13 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jul 2021 04:35:13 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 27.1; Shortcuts don't work with Russian layout active on Linux (Ubuntu) From: Petr Losev <wowpetr@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <93e468ce-66b1-7b84-0012-33c8c4aa70aa@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 14:35:12 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::234; envelope-from=wowpetr@HIDDEN; helo=mail-lj1-x234.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 04 Jul 2021 09:16:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) There are no shortcuts seem to be working when Russian layout is active. I change layouts with <Super>+Space. Ubuntu 21.04. In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.23, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-01-18, modified by Debian built on lgw01-amd64-045 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Ubuntu 21.04 Recent messages: user-error: Info file emacs does not exist [7 times] Mark set user-error: Info file emacs does not exist Mark set [4 times] user-error: Info file emacs does not exist Note: file is write protected View mode: type C-h for help, h for commands, q to quit. Beginning of buffer [8 times] Search failed: #("layout" 0 6 (isearch-regexp-function nil isearch-case-fold-search nil)) funcall-interactively: End of buffer Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-cairo --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs-P5Mppj/emacs-27.1+1=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Outline Minor modes in effect: goto-address-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t view-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils goto-addr noutline outline easy-mmode view mule-util jka-compr info eieio-opt cl-extra seq speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe find-func help-fns radix-tree novice thingatpt etags fileloop generator xref cl-seq project ring eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv eieio-core cl-macs gv eieio-loaddefs tutorial help-mode easymenu time-date subr-x cl-loaddefs cl-lib deeper-blue-theme tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 73753 16135) (symbols 48 8542 1) (strings 32 24172 1744) (string-bytes 1 771416) (vectors 16 13797) (vector-slots 8 178385 13740) (floats 8 41 321) (intervals 56 1229 0) (buffers 1000 17))
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