Received: (at 49994) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2021 15:08:23 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 20 11:08:23 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mH687-0000Sm-5m for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 11:08:23 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:55948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mH684-0000SY-QY for 49994 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 11:08:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31711600FB; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 8MsaK7c1i55A; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E205160101; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:08:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id upG1Gs6lmKtT; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE5E91600FB; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:08:13 -0700 (PDT) To: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> <6119E8F2.6060705@HIDDEN> <6d41e1ae-9112-2dd5-96b1-f0e979476a0c@HIDDEN> <611B8E46.4090304@HIDDEN> <c7260628-478c-384b-1d0f-5802d199bb91@HIDDEN> <611C404C.7090902@HIDDEN> <69f4e1d8-7642-3172-9c86-b6fcac75fa90@HIDDEN> <611F5396.1080807@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" Message-ID: <c18bf6c2-b2d1-72ea-da3f-58e5464259c3@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:08:13 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <611F5396.1080807@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49994 Cc: 49994 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On 8/20/21 12:02 AM, L A Walsh wrote: > When I use "-b" in du (equivalent to '--apparent-size --block-size=3D1) Previously in this thread you asked for "allocated space for a file on a=20 device", which is why I was talking about that number. Now you're asking for apparent size, which is a different number. If you=20 want apparent size, you can use 'ls -l', or follow Andreas's suggestion=20 and use something like 'stat -c "%s %n"'. However, apparent size might=20 be quite different from allocated space, as can be seen in the 1st and=20 6th columns of the last two lines of the following: $ echo '' >a $ truncate -s 1TB b; echo '' >>b $ ls -ls --block-size=3D1 a b 4096 -rw-rw-r-- 1 eggert eggert 1 Aug 20 08:07 a 4096 -rw-rw-r-- 1 eggert eggert 1000000000001 Aug 20 08:07 b
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 49994) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2021 08:30:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 20 04:30:46 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32938 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mGzvK-0008Eq-6u for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 04:30:46 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:37716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <whitebox@HIDDEN>) id 1mGzvH-0008Ee-4k for 49994 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 04:30:44 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GrZb52W39z1rk4p; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:30:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4GrZb41lnMz1qqkj; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:30:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zd-XEJHwUr_4; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:30:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: Z30K9f08p96sso9BVjsW7FOFOTJ2nLBoVUsbDpLCH3VB8Z72Ww4GOw+sPrLCpOaL Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-165-33.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.165.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:30:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0CC742C274C; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:30:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> To: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> <6119E8F2.6060705@HIDDEN> <6d41e1ae-9112-2dd5-96b1-f0e979476a0c@HIDDEN> <611B8E46.4090304@HIDDEN> <c7260628-478c-384b-1d0f-5802d199bb91@HIDDEN> <611C404C.7090902@HIDDEN> <69f4e1d8-7642-3172-9c86-b6fcac75fa90@HIDDEN> <611F5396.1080807@HIDDEN> X-Yow: Wow! Look!! A stray meatball!! Let's interview it! Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 10:30:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <611F5396.1080807@HIDDEN> (L. A. Walsh's message of "Fri, 20 Aug 2021 00:02:46 -0700") Message-ID: <87czq8jz68.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49994 Cc: 49994 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) There is stat and numfmt. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@HIDDEN GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2021 07:04:55 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 20 03:04:55 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mGya8-0003pE-57 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:04:55 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mGyZz-0003oz-9f for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:04:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mGyZz-0006CB-23 for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:04:39 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:41240 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mGyZs-0006tL-W0 for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:04:38 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id 17K73RBv053436; Fri, 20 Aug 2021 00:03:29 -0700 Message-ID: <611F5396.1080807@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 00:02:46 -0700 From: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> <6119E8F2.6060705@HIDDEN> <6d41e1ae-9112-2dd5-96b1-f0e979476a0c@HIDDEN> <611B8E46.4090304@HIDDEN> <c7260628-478c-384b-1d0f-5802d199bb91@HIDDEN> <611C404C.7090902@HIDDEN> <69f4e1d8-7642-3172-9c86-b6fcac75fa90@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <69f4e1d8-7642-3172-9c86-b6fcac75fa90@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=173.164.175.65; envelope-from=coreutils@HIDDEN; helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Coreutils <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On 2021/08/18 08:39, Paul Eggert wrote: > Perhaps your request would be more clear if you gave a specific example > of what you want and why --block-size doesn't do what you want. ---- I wanted to use ls to list the size of files in bytes, and use Binary prefixes K=1024, M=1024**2, G=1024**3 to display the the numeric portion with a maximum 3 digits or use a floating point format with up to 1 digit to the right of the decimal point: similar and as rounded by use of "%.1f" as in printf. Using a list of 577 files in file "files.txt", the existing 'ls' using: cat files.txt|xargs /usr/bin/ls --block-size=1 -1dhsS Instead of displaying the file sizes in bytes, it showed them rounded to the nearest 4K, so sorting by size and displaying only the 1st of a given size, I only ended up with 13 unique file-sizes in the list: 312K lib/perl5db.pl 200K lib/Unicode/Collate/Locale/ja.pl 100K lib/Unicode/Collate/Locale/zh_pin.pl 96K ext/XS-APItest/t/utf8_warn_base.pl 36K regen/opcode.pl 32K ext/DynaLoader/DynaLoader_pm.PL 28K regen/feature.pl 24K ext/XS-APItest/t/handy_base.pl 20K Porting/checkURL.pl 16K Porting/corelist.pl 12K t/lib/dbmt_common.pl 8.0K dist/lib/lib_pm.PL 4.0K cpan/Pod-Simple/t/ascii_order.pl I expected closer to 100 or more files displayed with size under 1000 bytes. If 'ls' used the user-specified 'block-size' of 1 byte, the number of files displayed is actually 279, or over 20 times the number of files with some names elided for sake of brevity. 310K lib/perl5db.pl 197K cpan/Unicode-Collate/Collate/Locale/ja.pl 138K regen/mk_invlists.pl 126K Porting/bisect-runner.pl ... 53.3K win32/bin/search.pl 52.1K cpan/IO-Compress/t/compress/generic.pl 49.9K t/test.pl 46.4K utils/perlbug.PL ... 17.4K Porting/pod_lib.pl 17.1K Porting/add-package.pl .... 6.7K dist/Devel-PPPort/Makefile.PL 6.6K cpan/Sys-Syslog/Makefile.PL 6.5K cpan/podlators/Makefile.PL 5.5K cpan/Unicode-Collate/Collate/Locale/da.pl 5.4K symbian/makesis.pl ... 1.2K ext/Hash-Util/Makefile.PL 1.1K win32/bin/perlglob.pl 1.0K ext/File-Glob/Makefile.PL 997 cpan/Unicode-Collate/Makefile.PL 983 cpan/Unicode-Collate/Collate/Locale/mk.pl ... 125 dist/Time-HiRes/hints/sco.pl 110 ext/VMS-DCLsym/Makefile.PL 104 dist/Time-HiRes/hints/dynixptx.pl 101 cpan/DB_File/hints/dynixptx.pl 97 ext/POSIX/hints/mint.pl 94 dist/IO/hints/sco.pl .... 11 symbian/uid.pl 6 t/op/svleak.pl 3 t/run/dtrace.pl 2 cpan/Module-Load-Conditional/t/to_load/LoadMe.pl ----------------------------- Instead 'ls' displays 4.0K for a file that is only 2 bytes. Clearly it isn't using the block-size specified by the user in the same way 'du' does: cd /tmp echo "1" >out.pl du -b out.pl 2 out.pl Ishtar:/tmp> /bin/ls --block-size=1 -1dhsS /tmp/out.pl 4.0K /tmp/out.pl --- When I use "-b" in du (equivalent to '--apparent-size --block-size=1), I get a size of '2' which one would expect for a file with 2 chars in it. however, ls displays 4.0K. Clearly it isn't using the --block-size=1 that 'du' is using.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
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On 2021/08/17 16:00, Paul Eggert wrote:
> That's different from displaying the size that would have been allocated
> on a device with a block size of 1 byte. 'du' can't do what you
> requested, any more than 'ls' can.
----
However you want to phrase it, with:
--block-size=SIZE
I want to have 'ls'
'scale sizes by SIZE before printing them'
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 04:36:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 00:36:20 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48177 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mFUMG-000348-AT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:36:20 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:34882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mFUMF-000341-6G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:36:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mFUME-0001Ob-Un for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:36:18 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:36342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mFUMC-0004rp-9p for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:36:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912F0160051; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id bRZ0Yud932yL; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBDA16005D; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id cLxu3tNltu9a; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA917160051; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" To: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> <6119E8F2.6060705@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <6d41e1ae-9112-2dd5-96b1-f0e979476a0c@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:36:13 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6119E8F2.6060705@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=131.179.128.68; envelope-from=eggert@HIDDEN; helo=zimbra.cs.ucla.edu X-Spam_score_int: -62 X-Spam_score: -6.3 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.147, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Coreutils <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) On 8/15/21 9:26 PM, L A Walsh wrote: > I don't want to display the allocated size on the current device, > but the size that would be allocated on a device with block-size=1-byte. There's no practical way for 'ls' to calculate that, as the kernel doesn't reveal that information.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 04:27:44 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 00:27:44 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mFUDv-0002nV-TD for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:27:44 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:33652) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mFUDt-0002nL-Hl for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:27:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mFUDt-00082f-BA for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:27:41 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:41210 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mFUDr-00062s-Jf for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:27:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id 17G4Qfd3069719; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:26:44 -0700 Message-ID: <6119E8F2.6060705@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:26:26 -0700 From: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN>, Coreutils <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=173.164.175.65; envelope-from=coreutils@HIDDEN; helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On 2021/08/15 21:00, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 8/15/21 4:13 PM, L A Walsh wrote: >> Hmm... for libc.so, ls -l shows 253 bytes >> for -s, it shows '4' and w/block-size=1, it shows >> 4096... > > Right. That is, those numbers look right. ---- But I'm specifying a block size of 1 byte, to determine what size it would take up on a device that allocates in 'bytes'. I don't want to display the allocated size on the current device, but the size that would be allocated on a device with block-size=1-byte.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 04:01:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 00:01:11 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mFToE-00027Z-Vh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:01:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:56568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mFToD-00027S-9c for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:01:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43660) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mFToC-0002go-U4 for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:01:08 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:33430) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mFTo6-0000OF-Oh for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 00:01:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D87160051; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id KHr9xXX4x0zu; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B9716005D; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id yeElEgg1X7-j; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6F29160051; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" To: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <348109b1-8a2e-d12c-3fa6-452a69974fba@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 21:00:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=131.179.128.68; envelope-from=eggert@HIDDEN; helo=zimbra.cs.ucla.edu X-Spam_score_int: -62 X-Spam_score: -6.3 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.147, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Coreutils <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) On 8/15/21 4:13 PM, L A Walsh wrote: > Hmm...=C2=A0 for libc.so, ls -l shows 253 bytes > for -s, it shows '4' and w/block-size=3D1, it shows > 4096... Right. That is, those numbers look right.
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2021 23:15:12 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 15 19:15:12 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47929 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mFPLQ-0001Zf-UQ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:15:12 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mFPLM-0001ZT-TA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:15:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mFPLM-00063T-NR for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:15:04 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:41208 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <coreutils@HIDDEN>) id 1mFPLK-0005VU-N5 for bug-coreutils@HIDDEN; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 19:15:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id 17FNE4m1043831; Sun, 15 Aug 2021 16:14:06 -0700 Message-ID: <61199F88.6080109@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 16:13:12 -0700 From: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=173.164.175.65; envelope-from=coreutils@HIDDEN; helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Coreutils <bug-coreutils@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) (reposting w/list+bugdb) Hmm... for libc.so, ls -l shows 253 bytes for -s, it shows '4' and w/block-size=1, it shows 4096... My LS_OPTIONS is LS_OPTIONS=-N --color=tty -T 0 -N for quoting and -T for no tabs my version: rpm -qf /usr/bin/ls coreutils-8.23-2.3.2.x86_64 may not be as current as yours, but it would be odd if it changed and you didn't know... Ishtar:/usr/lib64> command ls -lgG libc.so -rw-r--r-- 1 253 Mar 11 11:22 libc.so Ishtar:/usr/lib64> command ls -s libc.so 4 libc.so Ishtar:/usr/lib64> command ls --block-size=1 -s libc.so 4096 libc.so On 2021/08/11 00:40, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 8/10/21 11:56 PM, L A Walsh wrote: >> Perhaps the '-s' option in ls could pay attention to >> the user-specified block-size? > > Doesn't it already do that? > > $ ls -s libc.so > 12192 libc.so > $ ls -s --block-size=1 libc.so > 12484608 libc.so On 2021/08/11 00:40, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 8/10/21 11:56 PM, L A Walsh wrote: >> Perhaps the '-s' option in ls could pay attention to >> the user-specified block-size? > > Doesn't it already do that? > > $ ls -s libc.so > 12192 libc.so > $ ls -s --block-size=1 libc.so > 12484608 libc.so
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
Full text available.Received: (at 49994) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2021 07:41:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 11 03:41:08 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33249 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mDirM-0003In-NG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 03:41:08 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:44938) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mDirK-0003IO-V0 for 49994 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 03:41:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B1F1600F1; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id iLoX12lNyxTp; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41A11600F3; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:40:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 74RYJgqTnm_m; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F4D61600F1; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#49994: upgrade: have "-s" of 'ls' display alloc'd sizes for specified "--block-size" To: L A Walsh <coreutils@HIDDEN>, 49994 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <37b76722-35c9-74b6-1414-5d686ccd02c3@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 00:40:56 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <61137488.8060406@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49994 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On 8/10/21 11:56 PM, L A Walsh wrote: > Perhaps the '-s' option in ls could pay attention to > the user-specified block-size? Doesn't it already do that? $ ls -s libc.so 12192 libc.so $ ls -s --block-size=1 libc.so 12484608 libc.so
bug-coreutils@HIDDEN:bug#49994; Package coreutils.
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I wanted to look for a good sample for _some_ specific size (not sure of the size until I'd looked through a few). I got close using: find -iname \*.pl |sed 's!./!!' |xargs /usr/bin/ls --block-size=1 -1dhsS That gave 577 lines of output, but only displaying the 1st entry of same-size, consecutive entries that only has 15 unique sizes: 312K lib/perl5db.pl 200K lib/Unicode/Collate/Locale/ja.pl 100K lib/Unicode/Collate/Locale/zh_pin.pl 96K ext/XS-APItest/t/utf8_warn_base.pl 36K regen/opcode.pl 32K ext/DynaLoader/DynaLoader_pm.PL 28K regen/feature.pl 24K ext/XS-APItest/t/handy_base.pl 20K Porting/checkURL.pl 16K Porting/corelist.pl 12K t/lib/dbmt_common.pl 8.0K dist/lib/lib_pm.PL 4.0K cpan/Pod-Simple/t/ascii_order.pl 4.0K t/run/dtrace.pl Unfortunately, the "-s" param on 'ls' drops 99.98% of the size info. If the -s parameter displayed allocated space for a file on a device with the block-size as specified on the command line (useful for determining how much space the files will take on some device with a finer block-size). Using the block size as specified by the user gives 279 uniquely-sized entries losing no information (0%) on the sizes of the files, with only my elision of names for the sake of less verbosity 310K lib/perl5db.pl 197K cpan/Unicode-Collate/Collate/Locale/ja.pl 138K regen/mk_invlists.pl 126K Porting/bisect-runner.pl ... 53.3K win32/bin/search.pl 52.1K cpan/IO-Compress/t/compress/generic.pl 49.9K t/test.pl 46.4K utils/perlbug.PL ... 17.4K Porting/pod_lib.pl 17.1K Porting/add-package.pl .... 6.7K dist/Devel-PPPort/Makefile.PL 6.6K cpan/Sys-Syslog/Makefile.PL 6.5K cpan/podlators/Makefile.PL 5.5K cpan/Unicode-Collate/Collate/Locale/da.pl 5.4K symbian/makesis.pl ... 1.2K ext/Hash-Util/Makefile.PL 1.1K win32/bin/perlglob.pl 1.0K ext/File-Glob/Makefile.PL 997 cpan/Unicode-Collate/Makefile.PL 983 cpan/Unicode-Collate/Collate/Locale/mk.pl ... 125 dist/Time-HiRes/hints/sco.pl 110 ext/VMS-DCLsym/Makefile.PL 104 dist/Time-HiRes/hints/dynixptx.pl 101 cpan/DB_File/hints/dynixptx.pl 97 ext/POSIX/hints/mint.pl 94 dist/IO/hints/sco.pl .... 11 symbian/uid.pl 6 t/op/svleak.pl 3 t/run/dtrace.pl 2 cpan/Module-Load-Conditional/t/to_load/LoadMe.pl -------------------------- Perhaps the '-s' option in ls could pay attention to the user-specified block-size?
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