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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN> wrote: > Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@HIDDEN> writes: > > > >> If viper-mode is on and you for example in org-mode are in on a header > >> line with an invisible body and press =E2=80=9Co=E2=80=9D then the inv= isible text is > >> still invisible and point is now in the invisible part. > >> > >> I think this is a general Emacs problem, not a problem with only Viper > >> and I suggest that global-reveal-mode is turned on by default. > > > > Sorry for the late reply. This is still a problem in Emacs 25. > > > > I don't know if I agree that this is a problem, though. The behavior I > > see with Viper (or Evil, for that matter) is confusing but not crazy. I > > still see that I'm inserting something before the invisible part > > (represented by "..."), and when I expand the outline, then my edit > > indeed put the text before that invisible part. > > > > Turning on global-reveal-mode by default would change the org experienc= e > > and as well, so I'm unsure that is something others would agree on. > > No one has yet disagreed with me, so I'm going to mark this one as a > wishlist - I think there is something that either Org or Viper could do > to work better with each other, but this is more of a feature request > than a bug IMHO. > --94eb2c0603b2da73f6053a60b5a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">It is definitively a bug in my opinion.<br><div><br></div>= </div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug= 18, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Hyatt <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:= ahyatt@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">ahyatt@HIDDEN</a>></span> wrote:<= br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left= :1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">A= ndrew Hyatt <<a href=3D"mailto:ahyatt@HIDDEN">ahyatt@HIDDEN</a>>= ; writes:<br> <br> > Lennart Borgman <<a href=3D"mailto:lennart.borgman@HIDDEN">lenna= rt.borgman@HIDDEN</a>> writes:<br> ><br> >> If viper-mode is on and you for example in org-mode are in on a he= ader<br> >> line with an invisible body and press =E2=80=9Co=E2=80=9D then the= invisible text is<br> >> still invisible and point is now in the invisible part.<br> >><br> >> I think this is a general Emacs problem, not a problem with only V= iper<br> >> and I suggest that global-reveal-mode is turned on by default.<br> ><br> > Sorry for the late reply.=C2=A0 This is still a problem in Emacs 25.<b= r> ><br> > I don't know if I agree that this is a problem, though. The behavi= or I<br> > see with Viper (or Evil, for that matter) is confusing but not crazy. = I<br> > still see that I'm inserting something before the invisible part<b= r> > (represented by "..."), and when I expand the outline, then = my edit<br> > indeed put the text before that invisible part.<br> ><br> > Turning on global-reveal-mode by default would change the org experien= ce<br> > and as well, so I'm unsure that is something others would agree on= .<br> <br> </div></div>No one has yet disagreed with me, so I'm going to mark this= one as a<br> wishlist - I think there is something that either Org or Viper could do<br> to work better with each other, but this is more of a feature request<br> than a bug IMHO.<br> </blockquote></div><br></div> --94eb2c0603b2da73f6053a60b5a0--
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[74.73.128.199]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m62sm169941qke.13.2016.08.17.21.56.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN> To: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#5466: Viper opens line in invisible part References: <e01d8a51001241102j23914158nc9f72775562c4424@HIDDEN> <m2r3a5cl7z.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 00:56:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: <m2r3a5cl7z.fsf@HIDDEN> (Andrew Hyatt's message of "Wed, 03 Aug 2016 22:38:08 -0400") Message-ID: <m2fuq28ykz.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 5466 Cc: 5466 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@HIDDEN> writes: > Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@HIDDEN> writes: > >> If viper-mode is on and you for example in org-mode are in on a header >> line with an invisible body and press =E2=80=9Co=E2=80=9D then the invis= ible text is >> still invisible and point is now in the invisible part. >> >> I think this is a general Emacs problem, not a problem with only Viper >> and I suggest that global-reveal-mode is turned on by default. > > Sorry for the late reply. This is still a problem in Emacs 25. > > I don't know if I agree that this is a problem, though. The behavior I > see with Viper (or Evil, for that matter) is confusing but not crazy. I > still see that I'm inserting something before the invisible part > (represented by "..."), and when I expand the outline, then my edit > indeed put the text before that invisible part. > > Turning on global-reveal-mode by default would change the org experience > and as well, so I'm unsure that is something others would agree on. No one has yet disagreed with me, so I'm going to mark this one as a wishlist - I think there is something that either Org or Viper could do to work better with each other, but this is more of a feature request than a bug IMHO.
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