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[PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report template

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report template
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 10:45:55 +0200

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Tags: patch

I can never remember what that funny CC header was when I need it, how
about adding an empty X-Debbugs-Cc to the bug report and patch message
templates?

An alternative would be to add a reminder and explanation about it to
that portion of text that gets deleted (“This bug report will be
sent...”).

In GNU Emacs 29.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.34, cairo version 1.17.6) of 2022-09-14 built on ars3
Repository revision: a9941269683fe50673d0aa81feefb7a9d3d8a6b9
Repository branch: HEAD
System Description: Fedora Linux 36 (Workstation Edition)

Configured using:
 'configure --with-pgtk'

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Message #8 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:31:30 +0200

Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Tags: patch
>
> I can never remember what that funny CC header was when I need it, how
> about adding an empty X-Debbugs-Cc to the bug report and patch message
> templates?
>
> An alternative would be to add a reminder and explanation about it to
> that portion of text that gets deleted (“This bug report will be
> sent...”).
>

I think this change may confuse some users because there will be a blank
X-Debbugs-Cc header when reporting a bug (they'll ask themselves "what
should I put here?, what does this do?").  I think we should update the
bug template to explain when to fill that special mail header, at least.

But, if the problem is not general enough, we may simply expose a custom
variable so that users can provide custom headers in bug reports.  With
that approach, sending bug reports to Emacs by default remains as simple
as before, while experienced bug reporters can still provide the mail
header in their customizations, if they want to.

Opinions?

Message #11 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
To: Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
Cc: 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 13:45:50 +0200

On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 at 11:31, Daniel Martín wrote:

> Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Tags: patch
>>
>> I can never remember what that funny CC header was when I need it, how
>> about adding an empty X-Debbugs-Cc to the bug report and patch message
>> templates?
>>
>> An alternative would be to add a reminder and explanation about it to
>> that portion of text that gets deleted (“This bug report will be
>> sent...”).
>>
>
> I think this change may confuse some users because there will be a blank
> X-Debbugs-Cc header when reporting a bug (they'll ask themselves "what
> should I put here?, what does this do?").  I think we should update the
> bug template to explain when to fill that special mail header, at least.
>
> But, if the problem is not general enough, we may simply expose a custom
> variable so that users can provide custom headers in bug reports.  With
> that approach, sending bug reports to Emacs by default remains as simple
> as before, while experienced bug reporters can still provide the mail
> header in their customizations, if they want to.
>
> Opinions?

That makes sense.  From my perspective either (or both) alternatives you
propose are good.

Message #14 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>, 
 Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 14:04:12 -0400

Daniel Martín via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I think this change may confuse some users because there will be a blank
> X-Debbugs-Cc header when reporting a bug (they'll ask themselves "what
> should I put here?, what does this do?").  I think we should update the
> bug template to explain when to fill that special mail header, at least.

I think we should just make `message-goto-cc' command use
"X-Debbugs-CC" in both `report-emacs-bug' and `submit-emacs-patch'.

For extra points, make it do the same if "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" (and
some other well-known debbugs lists, customizable) is already in the
"To:" header.

Message #17 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 09:39:01 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hi,

> For extra points, make it do the same if "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" (and
> some other well-known debbugs lists, customizable) is already in the
> "To:" header.

<https://debbugs.gnu.org/Packages.html> lists the currently hosted
projects on debbugs.gnu.org. The "Bug mailing list" column contains a
link to the project specific bug mailing lists, email addresses for bug
submissions could be extracted from there.

Yes, it would be some work to earn the bonus points :-)

Best regards, Michael.

Message #20 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 04:16:35 -0400

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

> <https://debbugs.gnu.org/Packages.html> lists the currently hosted
> projects on debbugs.gnu.org.

And then the Debian bug tracker itself, of course.

Message #23 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:57:24 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I think we should just make `message-goto-cc' command use
> "X-Debbugs-CC" in both `report-emacs-bug' and `submit-emacs-patch'.

Or just add new commands to insert debbugs headers when reporting a
bug -- I think that's simpler.

Message #30 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2024 13:13:38 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Daniel Martín via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> I think this change may confuse some users because there will be a blank
>> X-Debbugs-Cc header when reporting a bug (they'll ask themselves "what
>> should I put here?, what does this do?").  I think we should update the
>> bug template to explain when to fill that special mail header, at least.
>
> I think we should just make `message-goto-cc' command use
> "X-Debbugs-CC" in both `report-emacs-bug' and `submit-emacs-patch'.

Apparently, the requested header is added in `report-emacs-bug' by commit
040cba5d3332. Shouldn't we do the same for `submit-emacs-patch', and
close the bug?

Best regards, Michael.

Message #33 received at 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57877 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 06:32:07 -0700

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Daniel Martín via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
>> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>> I think this change may confuse some users because there will be a blank
>>> X-Debbugs-Cc header when reporting a bug (they'll ask themselves "what
>>> should I put here?, what does this do?").  I think we should update the
>>> bug template to explain when to fill that special mail header, at least.
>>
>> I think we should just make `message-goto-cc' command use
>> "X-Debbugs-CC" in both `report-emacs-bug' and `submit-emacs-patch'.
>
> Apparently, the requested header is added in `report-emacs-bug' by commit
> 040cba5d3332. Shouldn't we do the same for `submit-emacs-patch', and
> close the bug?

Makes sense to me.

Message #38 received at 57877-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Martín <mardani29 <at> yahoo.es>,
 Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 57877-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#57877: [PATCH] Add empty X-Debbugs-Cc header to bug report
 template
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:36:14 +0200

Version: 31.1

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:
>
>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Daniel Martín via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
>>> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> I think this change may confuse some users because there will be a blank
>>>> X-Debbugs-Cc header when reporting a bug (they'll ask themselves "what
>>>> should I put here?, what does this do?").  I think we should update the
>>>> bug template to explain when to fill that special mail header, at least.
>>>
>>> I think we should just make `message-goto-cc' command use
>>> "X-Debbugs-CC" in both `report-emacs-bug' and `submit-emacs-patch'.
>>
>> Apparently, the requested header is added in `report-emacs-bug' by commit
>> 040cba5d3332. Shouldn't we do the same for `submit-emacs-patch', and
>> close the bug?
>
> Makes sense to me.

Done, pushed to master. Closing the bug.

Best regards, Michael.

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