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I am new to Guix.
My issue is related to the native compilation too, however it manifests
itself differently.
The build of emacs-next goes well.
However, when I start Emacs it throws lots of errors, most of which are
like this:
Deleting /tmp/comp-lambda-RCGJQI.eln
comp--native-compile: Native compiler error: (lambda (&rest arg1) (let =
((f #'make-process)) (apply f arg1))), "Compiling /tmp/comp-lambda-RCGJQI.e=
ln...
x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc-10.3.0: fatal error: cannot execute =E2=80=
=98as=E2=80=99: execvp: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
So while it builds successfully I can't really run it.
What confuses me is that everyone else in this thread has a differnt
issue. For some, if I understand it correctly, the problem is that the
compiler runs to aggressively and makes Emacs unusable. Is it right?
But in my case the native compiler just plainly fails to execute,
because assembler program is not found.
Why isn't it deterministic, meaning that going through the same build
process, the resulting build of my Emacs is different from the others,
reporting related, but different issues?
And this is what makes me think that the problem is actually in
packaging.
This sounds like the problem with dependencies, libgccjit in particular,
doesn't it?
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Even if you compile code ahead of time, > there seem to be some leftovers that are deferred. guix-emacs.el is an > oversight, but apart from that I also other leftovers (possibly from > init.el?) AFAIU, the compiler is invoked any time a function is redefined or advised, see (info "(elisp) Advising Functions"). In Emacs it is a very common paractice to put advices around a function to modify its behaviour. Since this happens during runtime (for example, in response to a hook, or after you manually run some command), you should accept the fact that native compiler may be invoked at any time as you use Emacs. > In Guix, this is more or less a user choice =E2=80=93 we advertised the > transformation by which you can opt-in to AOT compilation in a news > entry. Also, enforcing ahead-of-time compilation does not fix the more > pressing issue of packages breaking with native compilation ;) How pressing is this issue? There are literally no reports of packages breaking due to native compilation. So this is probably the reason why Eli considers it as a non-issue. > To quote Eli: >> More generally, we never expected people who have Emacs with native >> compilation available to want to disable it. It made no sense to us >> during development of Emacs 28, and frankly, it still doesn't, at >> least to me. > I think this reasoning really falls flat in presence of any non-Emacs > package manager. Like, obviously wanting to natively compile packages > managed by (dpkg, rpm, pacman, emerge, guix), but not natively > compiling a random elisp script you just downloaded from the web is a > legitimate use case. If security is a concern, you should not load random Elisp in the first place. It is much easier to just directly run harmful elisp, then to exploit native compiler, which stays silent until after you evaluate some (possibly harmful) elisp.
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From personal experience, no. Even if you compile code ahead of time, there seem to be some leftovers that are deferred. guix-emacs.el is an oversight, but apart from that I also other leftovers (possibly from init.el?) > There would be nothing left to compile in deferred mode. A quick scan > of the relevant page on Emacs Wiki > (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GccEmacs) suggests that some package > manager do this. In Guix, this is more or less a user choice =E2=80=93 we advertised the transformation by which you can opt-in to AOT compilation in a news entry. Also, enforcing ahead-of-time compilation does not fix the more pressing issue of packages breaking with native compilation ;) To quote Eli: > More generally, we never expected people who have Emacs with native > compilation available to want to disable it. It made no sense to us > during development of Emacs 28, and frankly, it still doesn't, at > least to me. I think this reasoning really falls flat in presence of any non-Emacs package manager. Like, obviously wanting to natively compile packages managed by (dpkg, rpm, pacman, emerge, guix), but not natively compiling a random elisp script you just downloaded from the web is a legitimate use case. Cheers
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This does indeed look like an upstream bug, but it also seems to have a context dependence because the Debian bug reports list some packages are affected that cause no problem under Guix (e.g. git-timemachine). As for Liliana's idea of disabling deferred compilation : shouldn't it be sufficient to have all Emacs Lisp packages in Guix AOT-compiled? There would be nothing left to compile in deferred mode. A quick scan of the relevant page on Emacs Wiki (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GccEmacs) suggests that some package manager do this. Cheers, Konrad.
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I don't want to disable native compilation for everyone, but I'd very much disable deferred compilation and replace it with Guix packages.=20 In other words, as long as your change doesn't break the current "guix build --with-input=3Demacs-minimal=3Demacs" flow, I'm leaning towards accepting a patch. As for disabling native compilation, using=C2=A0 (setq native-comp-deferred-compilation nil) removes most, but sadly not all compilation from personal experience.=20 I do wonder what causes the remaining ones to still pop up.=20 Cheers
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Works fine. The next question that I consider relevant: is this an upstream (Emacs) issue, or an issue created by packaging in Guix? That's not easy to answer. A related question: what are appropriate debugging techniques? Cheers, Konrad.
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Mon, 19 Sep 2022 02:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@HIDDEN> To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN>, 57878 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: Minimal reproducible setup In-Reply-To: <12eb8b51fe6c9508517e19bdeed923c389cafe1f.camel@HIDDEN> References: <m1o7ve2t2a.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1o7vexawf.fsf@HIDDEN> <e00fb97ec9fa651b42c7bbbf29760e0d93e6e3e6.camel@HIDDEN> <12eb8b51fe6c9508517e19bdeed923c389cafe1f.camel@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:04:37 +0200 Message-ID: <m14jx3q4qy.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 57878 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@HIDDEN> writes: >> I think you can prevent native-compilation entirely by setting no- >> native-compile to t in your early-init.el (I'm playing with the idea >> of doing this anyway, because I'm annoyed by the clutter that falls >> through the cracks). > > Okay, it turns out that disabling native compilation is not so simple > after all. Other ideas are welcome. That's what I discovered as well. What you can do is set native-comp-speed to -1, reducing native compilation to byte code compilation. But that doesn't deactivate the machinery. Cheers, Konrad.
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The only one that starts the process avalanche is emacs-ido-completing-read+. Cheers Konrad.
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From: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@HIDDEN>
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Subject: Minimal reproducible setup
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My understanding of site-start.el is that it actually loads all the
Emacs packages that are listed in my Guix profile. Which means that my
package list matters. Here is a minimal containerized example that
creates a process avalanche:
guix shell -C emacs emacs-ido-completing-read+ \
-- emacs --batch --eval="(print load-path)"
ido-completing-read+ is a rather small Emacs package, and I don't see
anything obvious in it that could cause trouble with native compilation.
But more importantly, I think no package should be able to cause the
behavior that I observe.
Cheers
Konrad.
bug-guix@HIDDEN:bug#57878; Package guix.
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It launches an ever increasing number of async processes for native compilation, which rapidly makes kswapd the main CPU user on my machine, and ultimately crashes the kernel. Some experiments showed that it's loading the site-lisp/site-start.el that causes this avalanche of processes: emacs -Q --batch --eval="(print load-path)" works fine. As does: emacs -Q --batch --load=~/.guix-profile/share/emacs/site-lisp/guix-emacs.el --eval="(print load-path)" But not: emacs -Q --batch --load=~/.guix-profile/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.el --eval="(print load-path)" which starts the avalanche of compilation. Possibly related: in my user-dir (~/.emacs.d/) I have a directory "eln-cache" containing a directory "28.1-f1a30909", but that directory remains empty. Perhaps all native compilation attempts fail and that's what causes the problem. Just guessing! Cheers, Konrad.
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