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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ff09016279991fe6b16500ddfa975520; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:28:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode In-Reply-To: <25497.46382.506940.917949@HIDDEN> (Robert Marshall's message of "Wed, 14 Dec 2022 11:36:14 +0000") References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> <25441.16114.353043.904045@HIDDEN> <83o7tqblna.fsf@HIDDEN> <25448.59211.40089.270248@HIDDEN> <838rknyn9e.fsf@HIDDEN> <87fsev7ybp.fsf@HIDDEN> <25488.59068.866352.235693@HIDDEN> <87pmculnx0.fsf@HIDDEN> <25489.55837.970291.248593@HIDDEN> <87edtakqek.fsf@HIDDEN> <25489.59354.729610.27651@HIDDEN> <871qp9l713.fsf@HIDDEN> <25497.46382.506940.917949@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:28:28 +0800 Message-ID: <87359iglmr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20926 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 922 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> writes: > Oops, didn't reply to all recipients, resending.. > > Po Lu writes: > > Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> writes: > > > > > Ah, I'm running from within kde/plasma (in an ubuntu install) and have > > > ibus > > > > Hmmm. I don't see that with I-Bus here... Did you try updating it to a > > newer version? > > > > ibus version gives me > IBus 1.5.26 > > which appears pretty recent, I'm on ubuntu 22.04 - the problem also > was present on ubuntu 21.10 which I guess was an earlier > version (or ibus). There needs to be a 2 or 3 second break for emacs to auto > save for the problem to appear - at least for me! > > Robert Thanks. I'm really lost here; if you set `x-gtk-use-native-input' to a non-nil value, does the problem persist? If so, it's likely a problem with I-Bus, as that will make Emacs use I-Bus through an entirely different interface.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#58135; Package emacs.
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I don't see that with I-Bus here... Did you try updating it to a newer version?
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6f0ef1797c68001e47aa627af17adc6d; Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode In-Reply-To: <25489.55837.970291.248593@HIDDEN> (Robert Marshall's message of "Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:35:41 +0000") References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> <25441.16114.353043.904045@HIDDEN> <83o7tqblna.fsf@HIDDEN> <25448.59211.40089.270248@HIDDEN> <838rknyn9e.fsf@HIDDEN> <87fsev7ybp.fsf@HIDDEN> <25488.59068.866352.235693@HIDDEN> <87pmculnx0.fsf@HIDDEN> <25489.55837.970291.248593@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:53:39 +0800 Message-ID: <87edtakqek.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20926 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 633 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> writes: > Po Lu writes: > > Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> writes: > > > > > I've run emacs with those options for 2+ weeks now and am yet to > > > see the problem occurring, so that appears to avoid the problem. > > > > Right. I've forgotten whether or not I've asked this before, so here > > goes nothing. What input method/framework do you use? > > > > C-h C-\ gives me no input method is activated now - and I wasn't aware of setting one > > Robert No, I meant on your system. xcin or kinput2 would be examples of such input method frameworks, and so would I-Bus.
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Right. I've forgotten whether or not I've asked this before, so here goes nothing. What input method/framework do you use?
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1c0ebc4f116cd34a6b2e1dc6eeb8d2f6; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:18:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode In-Reply-To: <838rknyn9e.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:14:53 +0200") References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> <25441.16114.353043.904045@HIDDEN> <83o7tqblna.fsf@HIDDEN> <25448.59211.40089.270248@HIDDEN> <838rknyn9e.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2022 20:18:02 +0800 Message-ID: <87fsev7ybp.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20826 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1127 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN>, 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:08:59 +0000 >> From: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> >> Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, >> 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > Is the wrong order real, or just on display? IOW, what happens if you >> > save the buffer to a file -- do you see the wrong order in the file as >> > well? >> > >> >> I saved a buffer containing garbled "r dehsangul ce" - I typed "rules >> changed" to a file and the contents of the file were as in the buffer >> - so the wrong order was real rather than just being displayed. > > That would mean something really changes the input events that Emacs > receives. Does "C-h l" after this happens indeed shows the characters > in the wrong order? And if it does, would you please try turning off input method support, by running Emacs like so: emacs (other options here) -xrm 'Emacs.useXIM: off' the extra layers of indirection involved in ferrying events to and fro the input method may be causing this problem, and narrowing it down to the input method would make it easier to debug. Thanks.
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Full text available.Received: (at 58135) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2022 12:15:33 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 07 07:15:33 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33536 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1os12L-0006fL-3f for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 07:15:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50368) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1os12I-0006f7-HL for 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 07:15:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1os12A-0000Ge-4C; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 07:15:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Pn7bWU52C7WWkKbmQcih8aYZv792pxy5tVUQSEHW8V4=; b=Zgwn6+z1tfYQ dBXlkZWnxNOfZqPRQk4aqt0eMt/sw8qX5EpzI6t4Ptz9u6uRHDkLYaZs7062dHixByU32pEpzK6im 8Uw3gNiZh2sjp0cJRLMppnIXEhKUDAkRhM5usr6SCslCvz04k+jp2KLKO0oG6vm/8gZVl3p9Kd2sr NLPYMJSEvXuthFMtVD+NG4VM2H24N7uDX/qRdzx/GMAZ0P44a+znnJIuelUw6+43a7BrXEBnrRIqa K+WkZ+9WVfcBAMqiAlx6DfGnpl/0kFA1PFlDdH4BOO4l6BiteusJrrrIba7SXmChQ8zCnWlRq7tYT wEHbUE+hjq0YoRt/7X7Ocg==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1os11v-00050M-M7; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 07:15:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2022 14:14:53 +0200 Message-Id: <838rknyn9e.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <25448.59211.40089.270248@HIDDEN> (message from Robert Marshall on Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:08:59 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> <25441.16114.353043.904045@HIDDEN> <83o7tqblna.fsf@HIDDEN> <25448.59211.40089.270248@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:08:59 +0000 > From: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> > Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, > 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Is the wrong order real, or just on display? IOW, what happens if you > > save the buffer to a file -- do you see the wrong order in the file as > > well? > > > > I saved a buffer containing garbled "r dehsangul ce" - I typed "rules > changed" to a file and the contents of the file were as in the buffer > - so the wrong order was real rather than just being displayed. That would mean something really changes the input events that Emacs receives. Does "C-h l" after this happens indeed shows the characters in the wrong order?
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Full text available.Received: (at 58135) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2022 11:09:08 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 07 06:09:08 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33470 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1os004-0004oP-I2 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 06:09:08 -0500 Received: from smtpq2.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net ([212.54.57.97]:42144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <robert@HIDDEN>) id 1os002-0004nT-8k for 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 06:09:06 -0500 Received: from [212.54.57.110] (helo=csmtp6.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <robert@HIDDEN>) id 1orzzw-0007ZN-DE for 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:09:00 +0100 Received: from capuchin.co.uk ([82.0.180.44]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id rzzwoPAZLBiXorzzwow5hC; Mon, 07 Nov 2022 12:09:00 +0100 X-SourceIP: 82.0.180.44 X-Authenticated-Sender: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.4 cv=XvHphHJ9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=6368e74c cx=a_exe a=ZmEqW+an5eg7eqPGYFwV/Q==:117 a=ZmEqW+an5eg7eqPGYFwV/Q==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9xFQ1JgjjksA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=oWwmHH8kAAAA:8 a=mnw0KxBGdNPpCHXTxHYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=DxqqFg6QQ14A:10 a=_FVE-zBwftR9WsbkzFJk:22 a=UHw7H5ZA06RhiNH5GN12:22 Received: from poulenc.faure (unknown [192.168.0.153]) by capuchin.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B710219F34C; Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:08:59 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <25448.59211.40089.270248@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:08:59 +0000 From: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode In-Reply-To: <83o7tqblna.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> <25441.16114.353043.904045@HIDDEN> <83o7tqblna.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfILdoSbRuzSZr4c7vMsFNuld9/X+He6UwsJGFkb7TMfIhxRE5+vPKsmkJBuz4Voq8Gi4vkpGL+Ya4x54icr1BRSKDhYr85Uuw/0XMhd34sLseEcaAOnA apdvo27ZhoQe0MmAl2OAdBjJRlT8P13ouNTlwUL0FY+QvsT3APmuH2JeBPr7NszlF9EDaqPp7NlAKwL9AOrAotvcLVyrJMAsxKPFYUFe2EK7iUCWnJnXa02E 5xefZN+wjpTA684Qs/l7cA== X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: luangruo@HIDDEN, 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Cc: 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 15:44:50 +0000 > > From: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> > > > > > > Typically I'm seeing characters not appearing and then the buffered > > > > text appears all at once in a randomised 'wodge'. I've just this morning typed > > > > Matt and ttaM appeared on the screen, I don't think I'd have pressed > > > > the shift key in such a wildly incorrect place. Another example - "to > > > > discuss?" came out as "tsis?d oucs" (without the quotes) > > > > > > > > Typically none of *this* message came out garbled but it's a more or less daily > > > > event. > > > > > > Is Emacs otherwise responsive to non-keyboard input during the wedge > > > preceeding the ``wodge''? One way to find out is to see if a relief > > > appears on tool bar buttons if you move your mouse over them during that > > > period. > > > > > > > I don't tend to see the scrambling until it's done (: too focussed on > > the keyboard! What seems to be the case is that the problem happens > > during an auto save - so emacs won't be responsive, when it comes out > > of that pause, the letters buffered up appear but not in the correct order. I > > have a fairly large INBOX (in vm) that I sometimes don't save for a > > bit so auto saving can take a few seconds. > > Is the wrong order real, or just on display? IOW, what happens if you > save the buffer to a file -- do you see the wrong order in the file as > well? > I saved a buffer containing garbled "r dehsangul ce" - I typed "rules changed" to a file and the contents of the file were as in the buffer - so the wrong order was real rather than just being displayed. Robert
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Full text available.Received: (at 58135) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2022 15:45:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 01 11:45:00 2022 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1optRj-0005ov-PG for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2022 11:45:00 -0400 Received: from smtpq2.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net ([212.54.57.97]:56134) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <robert@HIDDEN>) id 1optRi-0005of-Dl for 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2022 11:44:59 -0400 Received: from [212.54.57.111] (helo=csmtp7.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.ukmail.iss.as9143.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <robert@HIDDEN>) id 1optRb-0008OG-Jo for 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2022 16:44:51 +0100 Received: from capuchin.co.uk ([82.0.180.44]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id ptRboySKD01WJptRboqjgG; Tue, 01 Nov 2022 16:44:51 +0100 X-SourceIP: 82.0.180.44 X-Authenticated-Sender: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.4 cv=KfDBDCUD c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=63613ef3 cx=a_exe a=ZmEqW+an5eg7eqPGYFwV/Q==:117 a=ZmEqW+an5eg7eqPGYFwV/Q==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9xFQ1JgjjksA:10 a=oWwmHH8kAAAA:8 a=svs5iWK3RpeKTXH5oy8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=vtF6iyD5EM8A:10 a=UHw7H5ZA06RhiNH5GN12:22 Received: from poulenc.faure (unknown [192.168.0.153]) by capuchin.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFB0919F34C; Tue, 1 Nov 2022 15:44:50 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <25441.16114.353043.904045@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 15:44:50 +0000 From: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> To: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode In-Reply-To: <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfHc4Tcqa84aLHeaZQ4wew8LedQ2BTRPY2LVQurVHFczTqaglSvUQ78AhKSveCEUsQpbb+U9rs4+J7XD9maa9kGUBLR+IjmKQ9MPhAqJcJ7cCn4qECzfx 75sWbrORgMehggIZmPHfwyJRGNTftbrTiBBk5xAe5Vu+30whPej/cuDkWDkLNTymsn2xPpja5JcDia/D2C5JZS9rQRo1yg9wmUCfn7ofkZO76UCRZlsNGU8b X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) Po Lu writes: > Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> writes: > > > I'm regularly seeing what I type getting garbled when I'm typing a > > message in mail-mode. I'm not sure that it's mail mode that is > > responsible but that's where I'm doing most typing these days. At first > > I thought it was age and lack of coordination but I think that's > > unlikely. > > > > Typically I'm seeing characters not appearing and then the buffered > > text appears all at once in a randomised 'wodge'. I've just this morning typed > > Matt and ttaM appeared on the screen, I don't think I'd have pressed > > the shift key in such a wildly incorrect place. Another example - "to > > discuss?" came out as "tsis?d oucs" (without the quotes) > > > > Typically none of *this* message came out garbled but it's a more or less daily > > event. > > Is Emacs otherwise responsive to non-keyboard input during the wedge > preceeding the ``wodge''? One way to find out is to see if a relief > appears on tool bar buttons if you move your mouse over them during that > period. > I don't tend to see the scrambling until it's done (: too focussed on the keyboard! What seems to be the case is that the problem happens during an auto save - so emacs won't be responsive, when it comes out of that pause, the letters buffered up appear but not in the correct order. I have a fairly large INBOX (in vm) that I sometimes don't save for a bit so auto saving can take a few seconds. I've just seen it happen in a .tex buffer so it happens in more than just mail-mode. Robert
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c251b8b62d7e572c701c5483a3f9b195; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 12:36:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu <luangruo@HIDDEN> To: Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#58135: 29.0.50; Typing getting garbled in mail-mode References: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 20:36:02 +0800 In-Reply-To: <25396.3430.948966.603226@HIDDEN> (Robert Marshall's message of "Wed, 28 Sep 2022 10:01:26 +0100") Message-ID: <87h70r7k25.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20702 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1014 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 58135 Cc: 58135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Marshall <robert@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm regularly seeing what I type getting garbled when I'm typing a > message in mail-mode. I'm not sure that it's mail mode that is > responsible but that's where I'm doing most typing these days. At first > I thought it was age and lack of coordination but I think that's > unlikely. > > Typically I'm seeing characters not appearing and then the buffered > text appears all at once in a randomised 'wodge'. I've just this morning typed > Matt and ttaM appeared on the screen, I don't think I'd have pressed > the shift key in such a wildly incorrect place. Another example - "to > discuss?" came out as "tsis?d oucs" (without the quotes) > > Typically none of *this* message came out garbled but it's a more or less daily > event. Is Emacs otherwise responsive to non-keyboard input during the wedge preceeding the ``wodge''? One way to find out is to see if a relief appears on tool bar buttons if you move your mouse over them during that period. Thanks.
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I'm not sure that it's mail mode that is responsible but that's where I'm doing most typing these days. At first I thought it was age and lack of coordination but I think that's unlikely. Typically I'm seeing characters not appearing and then the buffered text appears all at once in a randomised 'wodge'. I've just this morning typed Matt and ttaM appeared on the screen, I don't think I'd have pressed the shift key in such a wildly incorrect place. Another example - "to discuss?" came out as "tsis?d oucs" (without the quotes) Typically none of *this* message came out garbled but it's a more or less daily event. C-h l probably needs checking next time if there's no other obvious causes. 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