Received: (at 61281) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2023 00:13:26 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 05 19:13:25 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46773 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pOp8P-00075g-LS for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 19:13:25 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:57757) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1pOp8N-00075N-Kx for 61281 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 19:13:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1675642387; bh=96LAQ+FgHugKpAZB7vavDq5ijorNQNwAZrm0o/tEeTY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=Y7ZsnmuZkfhoIsjb3pyxwhpQ3ek3jIDdrsh+xeduIxBNFq8tehnpsN+MGVsyDqh+m G8UJKGEnt61paJaMRb3Zt5JY1wHAgPv2RJobXs/M/MtCs1cLSjOJq23CoX32aNAeBj ogom0RLlBckNvbEJLNUbw3HjKV2Gk+XbtUp/7/8o7cH+ZcCO/WE4tARLlWSUQJkjO9 RS2czJN7rieF8xALUGpMxxDn1WOkukMC6qn+fgNM5G5bSEHUhFkye19LF2pAnqMDkb qq2NnTyjlFyCX9CW/ZcPFUNFl748EdC7Q1tKp9BIdBDQeUukzA5SihvXS+swd/Iuw6 VnIHUHgeljB3g== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([84.59.210.57]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mq184-1olxoG3a54-00n4lC; Mon, 06 Feb 2023 01:13:06 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61281: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9C`=28a?= \, =?utf-8?Q?b=29?= =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9D?= equals to =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9C`=28a?= . , =?utf-8?Q?b=29=E2=80=9D?= In-Reply-To: <d16c637d-38a4-29c0-ff22-008efee74c6f@HIDDEN> (Jim Porter's message of "Sat, 4 Feb 2023 22:32:08 -0800") References: <SA0PR04MB7433BC96453731D173F8B8A5D7D49@HIDDEN> <SJ0PR10MB54882316327D577FD7D51D67F3D49@HIDDEN> <87a61tgdkx.fsf@HIDDEN> <SJ0PR10MB5488DA0892190846E3921B8FF3D59@HIDDEN> <875ycghgv1.fsf@HIDDEN> <d16c637d-38a4-29c0-ff22-008efee74c6f@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2023 01:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87bkm7tzvy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Qdv+s/Etnltx/eMwiO5ykClRGpvKL523pWwB32Q+hh1xBLC6VGI 6bem6dW2KsrxeeNjHkW0rCJ1lXi2Le4uqqQoFBlcjxnrrEhHXX++1R4beavvH6Kp7RMlPbD 5TT6WuX9MA+HJOX1EYTgQhyIxGIh2VHCaeA/yXaEGoDuwodI/ZpKwSz4yRjMZ+0Vthkvg0C MpZiicyTPzHIwXPRIQASw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:mDnKbgQcBpw=;B8mn40v1MGalkkoY69fIZUcHXUi 1X1utsXog7GecilM+c30XWoLx4s1+ZMVw7SwzobqLgPfqwpenxwfBkWE4AMUZvLynvBGPFKkH JQKVcC/+LwjX3qujND8eLG3i1BZ8RJy8aJKv5Ldpf+VmmNFMhZkFFWVOgd8cbHUd4bLTgYqTZ a3AmHdqOEd0aXiBdm0M4ji5zzCJcqF767uFpKGfH1pNs1+iy5Q+GdxudtDarMkQ7HexQBCxm6 nBv71yBflmArkIl8h+FFn+Pk8yx6tN4ou6FvEJK6+UFkuPaqUlfE6hAfWk9TDQoBbuEyKwSAG eoh+JH5pkuSdIOFxWruu5/H75eDfseECEwSt2Y/Yqqif090w0VI7TLE5sBer2j/DnB1i4FohI trbg7rd1YrioxRSeev/ljHBwBiMKRGxYtQ5VtciwqEvWFkv+mJMREBzWrb24gj8TPZsve8YpB 45lRPeULZGa/582WlUuAC0xCRqpSODR5dF/otV7qgnAm6Df1GG05cpCzW88pZH4oSv9OVucFh XS4tbVdMyY/aS3BKIgI8PoYuQPivEwENeWhjEL9tE4W9B5l2rEO3h4hIBE/OUXL7dzbjE3FH2 edoPkOhLC6uCJ7/p/PVuaYMnNb98ecAwn1mWAKec/9imHNglyViwfqmM9ilTS1C+OfR3ra7Ze JOpc33l1mZKehHgVDSJAUD02MJj5ko3A4rn1O39txC3s1Axbfrd+BlrOWtrF/xCJ3d98fzBin wZEB4Qh3aUNmIJg8yZ0U8vl+n48xhr3zuBqtGZfAb+Fn4dHF9uPHNdZGdq0aEeuHBcme7PP1g ficQxPIGIJWUYIP+7aQTzNEUxtk/BBCFs3I4cHFW/b6V4Wce1h2TkspDK1ETGeQLKhul5rzA+ b79LO7w28P+hszAUOtkNRNORyNCqsj0u/Ulcs/zxUJtmKJp9OGAB5/B3IIQE2ALK8+TXoP624 BTRqCw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61281 Cc: Xie Shynur <one.last.kiss@HIDDEN>, "61281 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <61281 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> writes: > What about emitting a warning? That shouldn't break anything, and it > might catch some bugs. (I'm not sure if a warning is easy to add for > this though...) You mean the reader should emit a warning? Note that at least expressions printed by Emacs itself might be printed like this, e.g. (nth 1 '`(a . ,b)) ==> (a \, b) so you would get warnings for automatically generated code. OTOH, is it that likely that people write something like the above by accident? If the symbol "," (with read syntax "\,") appears outside backquote or pcase patterns at a place where it is funcalled or referenced as a variable you already get a compiler warning. And are we sure that nobody ever wants to use that syntax by purpose? BTW, if you are working with backquote expressions a lot you are seeing such commas in apparently "normal" (undotted) lists regularly (because the printer seems to prefer that syntax over using a dotted list, like in the above example). It surprises you only once or twice. Michael.
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(read ",foo") and (read ", foo" return > (\, foo). Why? (Just because the current > implementation of backquote depends on that?) As I said: any other format would lead to the same "problem", no? Unless ",X" is something "meta" that has no reader-construct-less expansion at all. > (read "'foo") returns just 'foo - it doesn't > return (quote foo). (read "`foo") returns > `foo, not (backquote foo). (read "`,foo") > returns `,foo. You forget that the printer is able to produce this format. Try `car'. > Notice the error msg from (eval ',foo): > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function \,) > ,foo > eval(,foo) > (progn (eval ',foo)) > > Nothing in (normal) Lisp syntax shows the use > of comma as a function. ,foo doesn't look > like function-call syntax, does it? Another side effect of ,X being equivalent to (\, X.). That's the only thing you need to remember. When you eval that, you should not be surprised that it's evaluated like ... Lisp evaluates things. > And here's the error from either (read ",") > or (eval (read ",")): > > End of file during parsing > > Yes, an error should be reported in each case, > but I think it should just say that comma is > undefined outside of backquote. S-exps are defined recursively. ",X" is read syntax of a valid s-exp, and I don't think we want to make the reader raise an error for it. But the reader expects an expression following the ",". And a single "," is _not_the read syntax of the symbol with the name "," (that is "\,": (symbol-name (read "\\,")) --> ","). So "End of file during parsing" is an appropriate message: no complete expression could be read, but something that looks like the start of an expression. Ok, so everything is about that you don't want that ,X and (\, X) are equivalent. All your arguments were of the kind "the implications are surprising". But you never answered the core question: what should ,X expand to instead that would not have any of these implications? Else all you say is that it's surprising when you lack knowledge. OTOH it seems not easy to find the information ,X == (\, X) somewhere. Is there a place where there is said something about the kind of expression the reader construct ,X produces? I didn't find anything in a rush. It should be explained, else this thing indeed can lead to surprises, as the one reported here. Michael.
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Yes, you need > > to say `(a ,'\, b). > > Is this really different in other Lisps (isn't `,' a > > reader macro in Common Lisp)? I think I spoke to this in my previous msg today. Let me know, if you think not. > I mean, what should the Elisp reader return > when reading ",foo"? Dunno. (read ",foo") and (read ", foo" return (\, foo). Why? (Just because the current implementation of backquote depends on that?) (read "'foo") returns just 'foo - it doesn't return (quote foo). (read "`foo") returns `foo, not (backquote foo). (read "`,foo") returns `,foo. And (read "\\,foo") returns \,foo. Maybe (read ",foo") should rather return ",foo" - but of course the Lisp reader would need to behave accordingly. And maybe (read ", foo") should return ",". > It must be some expression, and backquote > will have to handle this expression differently > than quote for the thing to work. See above. Notice the error msg from (eval ',foo): Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function \,) ,foo eval(,foo) (progn (eval ',foo)) Nothing in (normal) Lisp syntax shows the use of comma as a function. ,foo doesn't look like function-call syntax, does it? And here's the error from either (read ",") or (eval (read ",")): End of file during parsing Yes, an error should be reported in each case, but I think it should just say that comma is undefined outside of backquote.
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I think \, should be > > read as the symbol whose print name is ",". >=20 > That's the case. Inside a backquote, an escaped comma's handled as if it were unescaped. That's the bug. =20 > > To me, `(a \, b) should be treated like > > (a foo b): a list of 3 symbols - no evaluation. >=20 > No evaluation by backquote, you mean? I mean that \, is not (should not be) the same as comma whether inside or outside a backquote. It is (should be) only an UNescaped comma that (1) when inside backquote introduces evaluation of what follows it and (2) raises an error when not inside a backquote. > Yes, you need to say `(a ,'\, b). When I said "no evaluation" I meant that \, shouldn't cause evaluation inside backquote.=20 I wasn't talking about evaluating the symbol \, itself - I'm not interested in doing that. I'm talking about the special interpretation of \, here, i.e., its being handled just like an UNescaped comma, instead of just like any other symbol (e.g. foo). > Is this really different in other Lisps=20 > (isn't `,' a reader macro in Common Lisp)? It may be, dunno, but I'd bet that Common Lisp treats unescaped comma differently from escaped comma. I meant that reading \, should be like reading foo, whether inside backquote or not. The only thing that should introduce evaluation within a backquote is an UNescaped comma. \, is not , Dunno about the reader macro question. (But I'm guessing that the overall difference here is how the CL reader works, yes.) > I don't decide about this, but when we changed > the semantics of `,' like you suggest, we will > probably break a lot of code for no real gain > (I think the semantics in Elisp clear and easy > to understand), so this sounds like a very bad > idea to me. I'm not saying the bug should be fixed. I have the same concern you express. Not that I really think that "a lot of code" will break (I don't), but that (1) some code might depend on this behavior and so break, and (more importantly) (2) it's likely that the new code will introduce other (new) backquote bugs. There be dragons. What I expect is that the bug will be closed as "wont-fix". This should nevertheless be seen as a (minor) bug. It should be noted somewhere (at least called out in code comments). Whether it's important enough to merit mention in the Elisp manual, I don't know. Normally it's not, but someone actually stumbling on this would need to check the code to discover it and would need to recognize that it's a bug by design. File backquote.el says clearly at the outset: ;; When the Lisp reader sees `(...), it generates ;; (\` (...)). ;; ;; When it sees ,... inside such a backquote form, ;; it generates (\, ...). ;; ;; For ,@... it generates (\,@ ...). It's _good_ that it says this. That's a pretty clear description of the implementation / design. (Except that the use of (...) and ... in what the reader sees doesn't make clear what those stand for. Backquote applies to unparenthesized sexps also.) It could also usefully say that this doesn't provide exactly the usual Lisp backquote behavior. It could call out what we're talking about: _escaped_ comma is (wrongly) treated as unescaped comma inside a backquote. That's the design, AFAICT, and that's not the traditional behavior (IIRC).
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I think \, should be read > as the symbol whose print name is ",". That's the case. > To me, `(a \, b) should be treated like (a foo b): a list of 3 > symbols - no evaluation. No evaluation by backquote, you mean? Yes, you need to say `(a ,'\, b). Is this really different in other Lisps (isn't `,' a reader macro in Common Lisp)? > And `(a \,b) should be treated as a list of two symbols, whose print > names are "a" and ",b". That's also the case. I don't decide about this, but when we changed the semantics of `,' like you suggest, we will probably break a lot of code for no real gain (I think the semantics in Elisp clear and easy to understand), so this sounds like a very bad idea to me. Michael.
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(\, b)), which is another syntax for > `(a . ,b) ? Well, yes. And that's no doubt why we get that. But (\, b) shouldn't be handled as ,b. I know that it is - in Elisp. I don't think it should be. To me, that spells (faulty) implementation leaking out. > With other words, I think `(a \, b) and `(a . ,b) are different read > syntaxes for the same expression, equivalent to (cons 'a b). Yes, but see above. I think \, should be read as the symbol whose print name is ",". To me, `(a \, b) should be treated like (a foo b): a list of 3 symbols - no evaluation. And `(a \,b) should be treated as a list of two symbols, whose print names are "a" and ",b". The symbol \, should be read as just a symbol. The same is not true of just an unescaped comma - outside a backquoted sexp that raises an error, and inside one it's handled specially as part of the backquote syntax. \, is not just , I don't have another Lisp interpreter, but I'm guessing that Common Lisp does what I expect. 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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#61281; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 61281) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2023 00:29:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 04 19:29:04 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pOStz-0002n2-Tq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 19:29:04 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:40249) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1pOStx-0002m8-DJ for 61281 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 19:29:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1675556928; bh=yPBSdrMssMkABSm+i3JMraXvXCLV5ezMxu0o8jSnjLg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=cDQL0Hv4U05bMEJ2/mPlweYb+c1OIYvAmD1EYETEXipXKCLk+YVzxPBQNdWgKANTy 1XRyfmVL1HhZ9FsKCYGn9n4yRvPqpfAbLV43kKolyXaMNpgiYYpp1G3j6OorguIAGR 54rSgKatoiygPbj4a5YCd1ezVxOISPTyKW5K7CSPgoSLuZHfL5fFjai27JFCowvE2U N3kjjq1QwLXbYo49OHB2YzIn1tyAhcDvLZhebszp8OdeBwTqh5Gm8Ob+vZWLt7Dd+w irRQ4xQ9aQ7hyloqkU6kilBsj5fG9dE0fa9A716Svb9HW1epv6Hej6LtV/UeVbQa+N +rPxEjByN4fPQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([84.59.210.57]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MXGOC-1p7IH349xm-00YkEJ; Sun, 05 Feb 2023 01:28:48 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61281: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9C`=28a?= \, =?utf-8?Q?b=29?= =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9D?= equals to =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9C`=28a?= . , =?utf-8?Q?b=29=E2=80=9D?= In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB54882316327D577FD7D51D67F3D49@HIDDEN> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 4 Feb 2023 23:34:48 +0000") References: <SA0PR04MB7433BC96453731D173F8B8A5D7D49@HIDDEN> <SJ0PR10MB54882316327D577FD7D51D67F3D49@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2023 01:28:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87a61tgdkx.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:BWXfgvL1g6CLh5YMSYi95dY6GtDpOtKDziwXiEO/h6Z+NQdKcDJ 2coe+aio8DUlCsVU1LJ3gxuyqaR9vnx8qiFNer2mv+i+iM9qpevw1gljG5A/Wrj7/KPMYb6 8bUeXwyhVrpEPTAWAijBpHmffdg+Ljg9niZ+4HTIynuOvj/hxdCwRQkvwfIAusN7m+6tYSe e6w7nzpwYZf0a/rZUY1aA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:Wg9tKDUrvFM=;pWe4iYFSlUQuKvFcohGE+jKoPSS +Jhte/Igu8gnCkvjpo6D4AGQsBF6m7F3FSZydf52iEVoD6GrE6WWDn415gsnarWyh0vqmQlkq Znez88C2i2BOOSS+K1oV3SSx9ncuByTg/CmFLcagivKAnfpQKRbomjqKpBUbwLcqGcXosx+Fc XsoQbfXigBUJrgjWGztzFJc8M1aFys9xEz35rYOm7fAMIGv2RysVxn/trwdgLAnxdrVeYOOM7 Fu4H0iXngMs3B8mhxVqSf82YsFd3UYIJumchTmn4iGoSynMIhnZa7mE3R7Ss/7zNjAFGmixQ1 1RzjIWE5t7rZxrAbHjAoe5Z5EPg5XcFUZ0BrngN4gwQUeSyzBCMtVaWlL/yGTsUryO6JuDES/ VyEV3vcuCBJyhFJGX6VBxAetfBohTMGHf7Uq6DeEAkW12Gii4GCT+uXyd0ZLmN2bZ6Wa9/8xO p04HFXcCtnbWd8EuZJwVUiqAWvTY94STCcw72eYU4/iCUFLFN1W7oBD3lF6L5Iz4HZqRgVPHe ysOH+wR4wPdSCnZTDnuW9IlgslSRF8Jl9O+pIQcgeVFcEAqZFv9/e31e18/43q5ylDhY4NOUd H+SD9nXt9Gb5iPZcfp2S7AfJ8fhMpLG+P+z3hIH8YzYA4Ab6HkRxFwb0KlQ05sPqnsKn65C5k D98wvLS5n66UJ9BJV3B+2zvj5dv4i2IDM7Hk0HglP5LqreuJSKQ1wXJ0SChXdsnU/tp/8TRwp A5qEQ4rRf53+/g/bz63rRMFPj9NiVPMkZPiFPb3BrpEeT91//6+4in2K7AFKpgBdWuQMeG390 r6MVcMIO/SI4T4F8F55SA5qFNhhF0Hmkm30+lKqOQyjHhcWdnMkNuLLRGPOTk43w6wh6HSlh6 bIWLwaOuTG99sRJDJtFjPb2twi4wGNsoD6G3HBk7Jv82x+NJ21rm4v9xWS+ewqnz+UnGxwHsL z9zr7Q== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61281 Cc: Xie Shynur <one.last.kiss@HIDDEN>, "61281 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <61281 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > Good catch! > > `(a \, b) returns (a . <value-of-b>) > > Looks like a bug to me. Isn't `(a \, b) just another read syntax for `(a . (\, b)), which is another syntax for `(a . ,b) ? With other words, I think `(a \, b) and `(a . ,b) are different read syntaxes for the same expression, equivalent to (cons 'a b). Michael.
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