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Subject: Re: bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix
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> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 16:49:15 +0100
> From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>
> >> So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix
> >> condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter??
> >
> >I don't understand what you want to achieve by that, so please
> >elaborate. ffap-file-finder's default value is a command that doesn't
> >display the file in another window, so how will ffap-require-prefix
> >help here?
>
> From the example above I expect that after:
>
> (setq ffap-require-prefix t)
> C-x 4 f
>
> You see ~/ instead of /somedir. Like when we do C-x C-f.
That's not what ffap-require-prefix does:
(defcustom ffap-require-prefix nil
"If set, reverses the prefix argument to `find-file-at-point'.
This is nil so neophytes notice ffap. Experts may prefer to disable
ffap most of the time."
> As I said before, ffap-prompter is causing this because it is called
> before switching window.
So what we need is fix how the prompt is calculated, not what is the
meaning of the prefix arg.
> So ffap-file-finder is actually called at point before going to another
> window. And it does not have any ffap-require-prefix condition. My
> question is actually that.
Once again, calling ffap-file-finder in this case is WRONG! We need a
function that visits the file in another window, and ffap-file-finder
doesn't.
IOW, you are talking about a very different change to
ffap-other-window.
> We need to put the ffap-require-prefix condition somewhere in
> ffap-read-file-or-url or ffap-prompter. Because this problem happens
> with the other-frame and other-tab variants as well.
I think we need to rewrite the interactive spec of those to do what
you want. ffap-require-prefix is not related to this at all.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fbff28c09d26ddc965c9d26d36af5a29; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 15:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 16:49:15 +0100 From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix Message-ID: <20230220154915.qm4smcoohaiyc52c@Ergus> References: <87pma6tlth.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87pma6tlth.fsf@HIDDEN> <837cwexb7l.fsf@HIDDEN> <2543743F-F7A4-4474-8B89-55E472577DB7@HIDDEN> <833572x8oa.fsf@HIDDEN> <20230219213255.rhyiu44udzpgqsq2@Ergus> <83r0ukv6ut.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83r0ukv6ut.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol Content-Length: 1628 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61613 Cc: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 02:50:18PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:32:55 +0100 >> From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> >> Cc: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 >> >> From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> >> >> CC: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> >> >> emacs -Q >> >> M-x ffap-bindings >> >> M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) >> >> Write /somedir >> >> >> >> C-x C-f (you see: ~/) >> >> >> >> But >> >> >> >> C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) >> >> >> >> This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? >> > >> >Yes, I think so. >> >> Hi Eli: >> >> So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix >> condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter?? > >I don't understand what you want to achieve by that, so please >elaborate. ffap-file-finder's default value is a command that doesn't >display the file in another window, so how will ffap-require-prefix >help here? From the example above I expect that after: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) C-x 4 f You see ~/ instead of /somedir. Like when we do C-x C-f. As I said before, ffap-prompter is causing this because it is called before switching window. So ffap-file-finder is actually called at point before going to another window. And it does not have any ffap-require-prefix condition. My question is actually that. We need to put the ffap-require-prefix condition somewhere in ffap-read-file-or-url or ffap-prompter. Because this problem happens with the other-frame and other-tab variants as well.
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Full text available.Received: (at 61613) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2023 12:51:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 20 07:51:38 2023 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50867 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1pU5dq-0001jH-6d for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 07:51:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44614) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pU5dn-0001j2-PU for 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 07:51:36 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pU5di-0000Ld-JM; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 07:51:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3GC/8GE9uCLfpNmV8enDaiFzBfQ3q2YixSU39h8QsVQ=; b=m00yvmWPD173 jolhnIo2Fx/1qn0QAdB/BbEI8ZHKIVFyRKfkp1/uUtX73lZaJzQcj00ycCupafPxE0GjzpSS+fNQE EcXGLi6bqb33rALO0zj3/1JAL0FnmcUkLoViVxpdJ3tQdkuf3Q6ZVGF1s6a3kOCE8+oLmjBUds3dz mGV4Poebb6d35UP0D92ClIRDXFDJnhPa0ihJbUlPoZZEicaQoCTLu78pq1waqfNngaRbTfATp0nn1 OmN4XS0XAMnotGd6QK2i0E+Ixm5KLeLLrdXQyX6/e6caSPq9AxBUUHiUaZO7QA6uGDHbC+EhOPO32 IGu1Aqv9s8PEqttNMhIR/Q==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1pU5di-0007Op-2z; Mon, 20 Feb 2023 07:51:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2023 14:51:39 +0200 Message-Id: <83pma4v6sk.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20230219214326.ueue6mpb5krefjdx@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:43:26 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix References: <87pma6tlth.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87pma6tlth.fsf@HIDDEN> <837cwexb7l.fsf@HIDDEN> <2543743F-F7A4-4474-8B89-55E472577DB7@HIDDEN> <833572x8oa.fsf@HIDDEN> <20230219214326.ueue6mpb5krefjdx@Ergus> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61613 Cc: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:43:26 +0100 > From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> > Cc: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Looking at the ffap code I think some minor update/cleanup will be > beneficial any-way. > > Nothing very drastic, for example, isn't more consistent to make > ffap-bindings a minor mode to allow load and unload? Or use the > "interactive" in find-file-at-point to simplify the initial conditions > there and remove the optional? Or update the global-set-key to use the > new keymap-set thing? Or add autoload decorators to the interactive > functions? > > WDYT? It's hard to say without seeing the code you have in mind. Please post a patch, and let's take it from there.
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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fd545c068fe0cb650bb0b002eca44a6b; Sun, 19 Feb 2023 21:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:43:26 +0100 From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#61613: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix Message-ID: <20230219214326.ueue6mpb5krefjdx@Ergus> References: <87pma6tlth.fsf.ref@HIDDEN> <87pma6tlth.fsf@HIDDEN> <837cwexb7l.fsf@HIDDEN> <2543743F-F7A4-4474-8B89-55E472577DB7@HIDDEN> <833572x8oa.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <833572x8oa.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol Content-Length: 889 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 61613 Cc: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) BTW: Looking at the ffap code I think some minor update/cleanup will be beneficial any-way. Nothing very drastic, for example, isn't more consistent to make ffap-bindings a minor mode to allow load and unload? Or use the "interactive" in find-file-at-point to simplify the initial conditions there and remove the optional? Or update the global-set-key to use the new keymap-set thing? Or add autoload decorators to the interactive functions? WDYT? On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 11:09:04 +0100 >> From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN> >> CC: 61613 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> emacs -Q >> M-x ffap-bindings >> M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) >> Write /somedir >> >> C-x C-f (you see: ~/) >> >> But >> >> C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) >> >> This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch then? > >Yes, I think so.
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Hi Eli: So, what do you think? The fix may be to put the ffap-require-prefix condition in ffap-read-file-or-url directly or in ffap-prompter??
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That variable controls whether to invoke >ffap-file-finder, which is not suitable for -other-window commands, I >think? That is why, AFAIU, when not called interactively, >find-file-at-point doesn't call ffap-file-finder at all, and therefore >there's no point in heeding ffap-require-prefix=2E Right? Hi Eli: Yes, that's what I expect, but it is actually offering the completion when= using the other-window alternative=2E Just: emacs -Q M-x ffap-bindings M-: (setq ffap-require-prefix t) Write /somedir C-x C-f (you see: ~/) But=20 C-x 4 f (you see /somedir) This seems to be related with the ffap-prompter called before the switch t= hen? Best, --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E
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From: Ergus <spacibba@HIDDEN>
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Subject: 30.0.50; ffap-other-window ignores ffap-require-prefix
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 03:45:30 +0100
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Hi:
I just found that ffap-other-window ignores when ffap-require-prefix is
non-nil.
Looking at the code it seems to be that find-file-at-point has:
(and (called-interactively-p 'interactive)
(if ffap-require-prefix (not current-prefix-arg)
current-prefix-arg))
but ffap-other-window calls find-file-at-point no interactively. Same
for ffap-other-frame, ffap-other-tab and so on...
I am not sure if the (called-interactively-p 'interactive) test is
actually needed in the first place, but I could be wrong. Is this
intended?
Best,
Ergus
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