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When replying to an email, gnus constructs an In-Reply-To: header that
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(User's  message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:16:04 -0800")

While allowed, the addition of this parenthetical phrase has been made
obsolete as of RFC5322. I suggest removing it, or wrapping it in a
defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences?

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>>>>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:11:35 +0800, Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN> said:

    Andrew> When replying to an email, gnus constructs an In-Reply-To: head=
er that
    Andrew> contains the message-id of the originating email followed by a =
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    Andrew> (User's  message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:16:04 -0800")

    Andrew> While allowed, the addition of this parenthetical phrase has be=
en made
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    Andrew> defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences?

I=CA=BCd remove it, document its removal, but have a defcustom to get it
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> From: Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:11:35 +0800
> 
> 
> When replying to an email, gnus constructs an In-Reply-To: header that
> contains the message-id of the originating email followed by a phrase of
> the form:
> 
> (User's  message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:16:04 -0800")
> 
> While allowed, the addition of this parenthetical phrase has been made
> obsolete as of RFC5322. I suggest removing it, or wrapping it in a
> defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences?

If you decide to remove it, please make that conditional on a
defcustom, so that interested users will have a way to get back old
behavior, when they need that.

Thanks.

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Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes:

>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:11:35 +0800, Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN> sai=
d:
>
>     Andrew> When replying to an email, gnus constructs an In-Reply-To: he=
ader that
>     Andrew> contains the message-id of the originating email followed by =
a phrase of
>     Andrew> the form:
>
>     Andrew> (User's  message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:16:04 -0800")
>
>     Andrew> While allowed, the addition of this parenthetical phrase has =
been made
>     Andrew> obsolete as of RFC5322. I suggest removing it, or wrapping it=
 in a
>     Andrew> defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences?
>
> I=CA=BCd remove it, document its removal, but have a defcustom to get it
> back.
>
> Robert

Could it still be relevant when interacting with clients that confirm to
that rfc?

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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN>
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>>>>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 02:51:00 +0300, Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@tha=
odan.de> said:

    Bj=C3=B6rn> Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes:
    >>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:11:35 +0800, Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN=
> said:
    >>=20
    Andrew> When replying to an email, gnus constructs an In-Reply-To: head=
er that
    Andrew> contains the message-id of the originating email followed by a =
phrase of
    Andrew> the form:
    >>=20
    Andrew> (User's  message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:16:04 -0800")
    >>=20
    Andrew> While allowed, the addition of this parenthetical phrase has be=
en made
    Andrew> obsolete as of RFC5322. I suggest removing it, or wrapping it i=
n a
    Andrew> defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences?
    >>=20
    >> I=CA=BCd remove it, document its removal, but have a defcustom to ge=
t it
    >> back.
    >>=20
    >> Robert

    Bj=C3=B6rn> Could it still be relevant when interacting with clients th=
at confirm to
    Bj=C3=B6rn> that rfc?

I don=CA=BCt see how: that RFC makes that phrasing obsolete, so there will
no doubt be a client that at some point interprets the header
strictly, in which you don=CA=BCt want to be outputting the old format, so
we should output the new one by default.

Robert
--=20

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