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I suggest removing it, or wrapping it i= n a Andrew> defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences? >>=20 >> I=CA=BCd remove it, document its removal, but have a defcustom to ge= t it >> back. >>=20 >> Robert Bj=C3=B6rn> Could it still be relevant when interacting with clients th= at confirm to Bj=C3=B6rn> that rfc? I don=CA=BCt see how: that RFC makes that phrasing obsolete, so there will no doubt be a client that at some point interprets the header strictly, in which you don=CA=BCt want to be outputting the old format, so we should output the new one by default. Robert --=20
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64454 Cc: Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN>, 64454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim <rpluim@HIDDEN> writes: >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:11:35 +0800, Andrew Cohen <acohen@HIDDEN> sai= d: > > Andrew> When replying to an email, gnus constructs an In-Reply-To: he= ader that > Andrew> contains the message-id of the originating email followed by = a phrase of > Andrew> the form: > > Andrew> (User's message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:16:04 -0800") > > Andrew> While allowed, the addition of this parenthetical phrase has = been made > Andrew> obsolete as of RFC5322. I suggest removing it, or wrapping it= in a > Andrew> defcustom 'message-strict-rfc5322. Any preferences? > > I=CA=BCd remove it, document its removal, but have a defcustom to get it > back. > > Robert Could it still be relevant when interacting with clients that confirm to that rfc?
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