Received: (at 68810) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2024 12:27:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 30 07:27:52 2024 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1rUnDT-0007uy-Dx for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2024 07:27:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rUnDQ-0007uj-RH for 68810 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2024 07:27:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1rUnDC-0008Sf-8R; Tue, 30 Jan 2024 07:27:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=fh3jf72NKxkSrp7bo2/e0Q8Es17dHugHwB2XgcnWtKo=; b=IXz4aODybRBv YeJlbb+aPtqn6lmRyDsKSFhvEbu1s7xOLG3IgS3tUj4SRAuLyHK3GQrKNd60wA6LU8DxsjDnARsdF /jVKkxjOIEY2YpogsAE3NshRXMH1LlEl1+zzSna6WZSAMC1De5PZIM0M2PiyPd5H7UAbZ91eEovUe 9sij9Csq+uLMqMzwSxUHXayQKrpIeC5INhOQVSL2KW8wzFIXS7C5LFMbln2wdD6Pu4/R4Lb/zog1T IHEPp3oGkpZ1fpoCgU59x4pBYbsb0YLlvJ4tJsdu0b4MOnuUN1E4URCsB+m1teajgy3Vb/TXulTWX lEaf2C2ZiSDfwGmEvrEQhw==; Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:27:07 +0200 Message-Id: <86mssn2ehw.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmueusuTJQAQHxA-JT02zAw=o-R4OY5nU55r-H7oHrm_Q@HIDDEN> (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:39:54 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#68810: 29.1; Recommending setting transfer.fsckObjects of git to true is not necessary References: <87a5onlnwk.fsf@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmmueusuTJQAQHxA-JT02zAw=o-R4OY5nU55r-H7oHrm_Q@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 68810 Cc: me@HIDDEN, 68810 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:39:54 -0500 > > Lin Jian via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text > editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes: > > > Recommendation about setting transfer.fsckObjects of git to true can be > > found in admin/notes/git-workflow and CONTRIBUTE. In addition, it is > > set in autogen.sh. > > > > This is triggered by a discussion[1] on emacs-devel. The first commit > > about this is cedd7cad092809a97c1ed7fb883b68fa844cea58 on 2016-01-31. > > However, on 2016-02-04, another discussion[2] shows that git is secure > > by default so setting this option is not necessary. > > > > What about removing this unnecessary recommendation? > > > > By the way, the same recommendation can be found on Emacswiki[3][4]. > > > > [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg01802.html > > [2]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813157#29 > > [3]: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GitQuickStartForEmacsDevs > > [4]: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GitForEmacsDevs > > Are you sure? The git documentation says: > > transfer.fsckObjects > > When fetch.fsckObjects or receive.fsckObjects are not set, the value > of this variable is used instead. Defaults to false. > > When set, the fetch or receive will abort in the case of a malformed > object or a link to a nonexistent object. In addition, various other > issues are checked for, including legacy issues (see fsck.<msg-id>), > and potential security issues like the existence of a .GIT directory > or a malicious .gitmodules file (see the release notes for v2.2.1 > and v2.17.1 for details). Other sanity and security checks may be > added in future releases. > > https://git-scm.com/docs/git-config#Documentation/git-config.txt-transferfsckObjects And I have another question: does this setting cause any harm, or can cause any harm in some situations? IOW, what are the downsides of using this setting?
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Lin Jian via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> writes:
> Recommendation about setting transfer.fsckObjects of git to true can be
> found in admin/notes/git-workflow and CONTRIBUTE. In addition, it is
> set in autogen.sh.
>
> This is triggered by a discussion[1] on emacs-devel. The first commit
> about this is cedd7cad092809a97c1ed7fb883b68fa844cea58 on 2016-01-31.
> However, on 2016-02-04, another discussion[2] shows that git is secure
> by default so setting this option is not necessary.
>
> What about removing this unnecessary recommendation?
>
> By the way, the same recommendation can be found on Emacswiki[3][4].
>
> [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg01802.html
> [2]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813157#29
> [3]: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GitQuickStartForEmacsDevs
> [4]: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GitForEmacsDevs
Are you sure? The git documentation says:
transfer.fsckObjects
When fetch.fsckObjects or receive.fsckObjects are not set, the value
of this variable is used instead. Defaults to false.
When set, the fetch or receive will abort in the case of a malformed
object or a link to a nonexistent object. In addition, various other
issues are checked for, including legacy issues (see fsck.<msg-id>),
and potential security issues like the existence of a .GIT directory
or a malicious .gitmodules file (see the release notes for v2.2.1
and v2.17.1 for details). Other sanity and security checks may be
added in future releases.
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-config#Documentation/git-config.txt-transferfsckObjects
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