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When running either `guix size $(realpath ~/.guix-home/profile)` or 
`guix size $(realpath /run/current-system/profile)` on my system, I 
could see that multiple packages have "duplicates", whose hash doesn't 
match. After investigation, I discovered that for all the ones I've 
checked, the hash differs simply because compression used for some files 
in the derivation output (such as manpages, for example). Some examples 
are:

bash-minimal-5.1.16
bzip2-1.0.8
cairo-1.18.0
coreutils-9.1
dbus-1.15.8
extension.json
ffmpeg-6.1.1
gawk-5.3.0
gcc-11.4.0-lib
git-2.46.0
glib-2.78.0
grep-3.11
gtk+-2.24.33
gtk+-3.24.41
gtk+-3.24.41-bin
gzip-1.13
harfbuzz-8.3.0
libffi-3.4.4
libnotify-0.8.3
librsvg-2.56.4
libxkbcommon-1.6.0
mesa-24.0.4
python-3.10.7
python-3.10.7-tk
python-pyparsing-3.0.6
qtwayland-5.15.10
tar-1.34
wayland-1.22.0
xz-5.4.5
zlib-1.3

Running guix challenge over these packages also doesn't detect any kind 
of reproducibility issues. Is there any reason for the package 
duplication?

Thanks in advance,
Luis Guilherme Coelho
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<p>When running either `guix size $(realpath ~/.guix-home/profile)` or `gui=
x size $(realpath /run/current-system/profile)` on my system, I could see t=
hat multiple packages have "duplicates", whose hash doesn't match. After in=
vestigation, I discovered that for all the ones I've checked, the hash diff=
ers simply because compression used for some files in the derivation output=
 (such as manpages, for example). Some examples are:<br /><br />bash-minima=
l-5.1.16<br />bzip2-1.0.8<br />cairo-1.18.0<br />coreutils-9.1<br />dbus-1.=
15.8<br />extension.json<br />ffmpeg-6.1.1<br />gawk-5.3.0<br />gcc-11.4.0-=
lib<br />git-2.46.0<br />glib-2.78.0<br />grep-3.11<br />gtk+-2.24.33<br />=
gtk+-3.24.41<br />gtk+-3.24.41-bin<br />gzip-1.13<br />harfbuzz-8.3.0<br />=
libffi-3.4.4<br />libnotify-0.8.3<br />librsvg-2.56.4<br />libxkbcommon-1.6=
=2E0<br />mesa-24.0.4<br />python-3.10.7<br />python-3.10.7-tk<br />python-=
pyparsing-3.0.6<br />qtwayland-5.15.10<br />tar-1.34<br />wayland-1.22.0<br=
 />xz-5.4.5<br />zlib-1.3<br /><br />Running guix challenge over these pack=
ages also doesn't detect any kind of reproducibility issues. Is there any r=
eason for the package duplication?<br /><br />Thanks in advance,<br />Luis =
Guilherme Coelho</p>

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Still on the same matter, while some packages indeed have the same 
closure e.g.

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+radio at buer in ~ > guix size 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8
store item                                                       total   
  self
/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39              40.5 
    38.8  50.5%
/gnu/store/zzpbp6rr43smwxzvzd4qd317z5j7qblj-gcc-11.4.0-lib          75.6 
    35.0  45.5%
/gnu/store/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1.16       1.7 
     1.7   2.2%
/gnu/store/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16     41.5 
     1.0   1.3%
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8             77.0 
     0.4   0.5%
total: 77.0 MiB
+radio at buer in ~ > guix size 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8
store item                                                       total   
  self
/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39              40.5 
    38.8  50.5%
/gnu/store/zzpbp6rr43smwxzvzd4qd317z5j7qblj-gcc-11.4.0-lib          75.6 
    35.0  45.5%
/gnu/store/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1.16       1.7 
     1.7   2.2%
/gnu/store/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16     41.5 
     1.0   1.3%
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8             76.9 
     0.4   0.5%
total: 76.9 MiB
+radio at buer in ~ > diff -r 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzcmp.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzcmp.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzdiff.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzdiff.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzegrep.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzegrep.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzfgrep.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzfgrep.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzgrep.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzgrep.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzip2.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzip2.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzless.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzless.1.zst
Only in 
/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzmore.1.gz
Only in 
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: 
bzmore.1.zst

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many others that have different closures e.g.

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+radio at buer in ~ > guix size 
/gnu/store/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16
store item                                                       total   
  self
/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39              40.5 
    38.8  93.5%
/gnu/store/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1.16       1.7 
     1.7   4.1%
/gnu/store/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16     41.5 
     1.0   2.4%
total: 41.5 MiB
+radio at buer in ~ > guix size 
/gnu/store/x47i4yafqxdav838aykda9c2hhhn9sa4-bash-minimal-5.1.16
store item                                                       total   
  self
/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39              40.5 
    38.8  50.7%
/gnu/store/zzpbp6rr43smwxzvzd4qd317z5j7qblj-gcc-11.4.0-lib          75.6 
    35.0  45.8%
/gnu/store/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1.16       1.7 
     1.7   2.2%
/gnu/store/x47i4yafqxdav838aykda9c2hhhn9sa4-bash-minimal-5.1.16     76.5 
     1.0   1.3%
total: 76.5 MiB

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which is more reasonable to justify the difference in the package 
derivation output contents. But still, where does that dependency on 
gcc-lib comes from? And if one of them is a "more complete" version of 
the other, Why are both packages installed into the profile?

Thanks in advance,
Luis Guilherme Coelho
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<p>Still on the same matter, while some packages indeed have the same closu=
re e.g.</p>
<pre style=3D"color: #e8e6e3;" data-darkreader-inline-color=3D""><em>--8&lt=
;---------------cut here---------------start-------------&gt;8---</em></pre>
<pre style=3D"color: #e8e6e3;" data-darkreader-inline-color=3D"">+radio at =
buer in ~ &gt; guix size /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-=
1.0.8<br />store item &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; total &nbsp; &=
nbsp;self<br />/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39 &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;40.5 &nbsp; &nbsp;38.8 &nbsp;50.=
5%<br />/gnu/store/zzpbp6rr43smwxzvzd4qd317z5j7qblj-gcc-11.4.0-lib &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;75.6 &nbsp; &nbsp;35.0 &nbsp;45.5%<br />/gnu/stor=
e/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
1.7 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.7 &nbsp; 2.2%<br />/gnu/store/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166d=
h3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; 41.5 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.0 &nbsp; 1.3=
%<br />/gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8 &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 77.0 &nbsp; &nbsp; 0.4 &nbsp; 0.5%<br />total=
: 77.0 MiB<br />+radio at buer in ~ &gt; guix size /gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8pr=
l9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8<br />store item &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; total &nbsp; &nbsp;self<br />/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv=
1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;40.5 &=
nbsp; &nbsp;38.8 &nbsp;50.5%<br />/gnu/store/zzpbp6rr43smwxzvzd4qd317z5j7qb=
lj-gcc-11.4.0-lib &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;75.6 &nbsp; &nbsp;35.0 =
&nbsp;45.5%<br />/gnu/store/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.=
1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.7 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.7 &nbsp; 2.2%<br />/gnu/store=
/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; 41.5 &n=
bsp; &nbsp; 1.0 &nbsp; 1.3%<br />/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbw=
v-bzip2-1.0.8 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 76.9 &nbsp; &nbsp; =
0.4 &nbsp; 0.5%<br />total: 76.9 MiB<br />+radio at buer in ~ &gt; diff -r =
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8 /gnu/store/56aq6sdx=
35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8<br />Only in /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rs=
xq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzcmp.1.gz<br />Only in /gnu=
/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzcmp.1=
=2Ezst<br />Only in /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8=
/share/man/man1: bzdiff.1.gz<br />Only in /gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8=
d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzdiff.1.zst<br />Only in /gnu/store=
/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzegrep.1.gz<=
br />Only in /gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/=
man/man1: bzegrep.1.zst<br />Only in /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0d=
hd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzfgrep.1.gz<br />Only in /gnu/store/59kd=
6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzfgrep.1.zst<br /=
>Only in /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/=
man1: bzgrep.1.gz<br />Only in /gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-=
bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzgrep.1.zst<br />Only in /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35=
f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzip2.1.gz<br />Only in =
/gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzi=
p2.1.zst<br />Only in /gnu/store/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0=
=2E8/share/man/man1: bzless.1.gz<br />Only in /gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbn=
h3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzless.1.zst<br />Only in /gnu/s=
tore/56aq6sdx35f7rsxq8jq9ypafk0dhd3p3-bzip2-1.0.8/share/man/man1: bzmore.1.=
gz<br />Only in /gnu/store/59kd6jyvrq8prl9mbnh3g8d22rc1dbwv-bzip2-1.0.8/sha=
re/man/man1: bzmore.1.zst</pre>
<pre style=3D"color: #e8e6e3;" data-darkreader-inline-color=3D""><em>--8&lt=
;---------------cut here---------------end---------------&gt;8---</em>
</pre>
<pre style=3D"color: #e8e6e3;" data-darkreader-inline-color=3D""><br />many=
 others that have different closures e.g.</pre>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'andale mono', monospace;"><em>--8&lt;------=
---------cut here---------------start-------------&gt;8---</em></span></p>
<pre style=3D"color: #e8e6e3;" data-darkreader-inline-color=3D"">+radio at =
buer in ~ &gt; guix size /gnu/store/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-m=
inimal-5.1.16<br />store item &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; total =
&nbsp; &nbsp;self<br />/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.=
39 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;40.5 &nbsp; &nbsp;38.8 &=
nbsp;93.5%<br />/gnu/store/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1=
=2E16 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.7 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.7 &nbsp; 4.1%<br />/gnu/stor=
e/3jhfhxdf6v5ms10x5zmnl166dh3yhbr1-bash-minimal-5.1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; 41.5 &=
nbsp; &nbsp; 1.0 &nbsp; 2.4%<br />total: 41.5 MiB<br />+radio at buer in ~ =
&gt; guix size /gnu/store/x47i4yafqxdav838aykda9c2hhhn9sa4-bash-minimal-5.1=
=2E16<br />store item &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; total &nbsp; &=
nbsp;self<br />/gnu/store/zvlp3n8iwa1svxmwv4q22pv1pb1c9pjq-glibc-2.39 &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;40.5 &nbsp; &nbsp;38.8 &nbsp;50.=
7%<br />/gnu/store/zzpbp6rr43smwxzvzd4qd317z5j7qblj-gcc-11.4.0-lib &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;75.6 &nbsp; &nbsp;35.0 &nbsp;45.8%<br />/gnu/stor=
e/87z5k84hxbqs87plgwsl2v6a4j7m3k7h-bash-static-5.1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
1.7 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.7 &nbsp; 2.2%<br />/gnu/store/x47i4yafqxdav838aykda9c2h=
hhn9sa4-bash-minimal-5.1.16 &nbsp; &nbsp; 76.5 &nbsp; &nbsp; 1.0 &nbsp; 1.3=
%<br />total: 76.5 MiB</pre>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: 'andale mono', monospace;"><em>--8&lt;------=
---------cut here---------------end---------------&gt;8---</em>&nbsp;</span=
></p>
<pre style=3D"color: #e8e6e3;" data-darkreader-inline-color=3D"">which is m=
ore reasonable to justify the difference in the package derivation output c=
ontents. But still, where does that dependency on gcc-lib comes from? And i=
f one of them is a "more complete" version of the other, Why are both packa=
ges installed into the profile?</pre>
<p><br />Thanks in advance,<br />Luis Guilherme Coelho</p>
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