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Subject: Re: Obsoleting mail/hashcash.el
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Comments: In-reply-to Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
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Thanks, Stefan. No objections from me (MH-E).
You don't need to remove the following line in mh-e.el (in Emacs). It is
in a list of invisible header fields and does not depend on the hashcash
package in Emacs.
"X-Hashcash:" ; hashcash
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > The mail/hashcash.el library implements an Emacs wrapper around
> > hashcash, where the idea was that you added a small amount of "proof of
> > work" to an Email header, which if everyone used it would be expensive
> > for spammers:
> >
> > "The email anti-spam tool, like the proof-of-work algorithm, is
> > also called hashcash and is used to create stamps to attach to mail
> > to add a micro-cost to sending mail to deter spamming. The main
> > use of the hashcash stamp is as a white-listing hint to help
> > hashcash users avoid losing email due to content based and
> > blacklist based anti-spam systems." - http://www.hashcash.org
> >
> > This might be nice in theory, but it is irrelevant as an anti-spam
> > measure on today's internet, since almost no one uses it. Let's not
> > mislead users to waste energy using it.
> >
> > I suggest that we mark it as obsolete.
>
> I'm Cc'ing Gnus, MH-E, Notmuch (third-party), and mu4e (third-party)
> developers, in case they have any comments.
>
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The main > use of the hashcash stamp is as a white-listing hint to help > hashcash users avoid losing email due to content based and > blacklist based anti-spam systems." - http://www.hashcash.org > > This might be nice in theory, but it is irrelevant as an anti-spam > measure on today's internet, since almost no one uses it. Let's not > mislead users to waste energy using it. > > I suggest that we mark it as obsolete. 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Binnema" <djcb@HIDDEN>, Bill Wohler <wohler@HIDDEN>, David Bremner <david@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN> writes: > Severity: wishlist > > The mail/hashcash.el library implements an Emacs wrapper around > hashcash, where the idea was that you added a small amount of "proof of > work" to an Email header, which if everyone used it would be expensive > for spammers: > > "The email anti-spam tool, like the proof-of-work algorithm, is > also called hashcash and is used to create stamps to attach to mail > to add a micro-cost to sending mail to deter spamming. The main > use of the hashcash stamp is as a white-listing hint to help > hashcash users avoid losing email due to content based and > blacklist based anti-spam systems." - http://www.hashcash.org > > This might be nice in theory, but it is irrelevant as an anti-spam > measure on today's internet, since almost no one uses it. Let's not > mislead users to waste energy using it. > > I suggest that we mark it as obsolete. I'm Cc'ing Gnus, MH-E, Notmuch (third-party), and mu4e (third-party) developers, in case they have any comments.
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Let's not > mislead users to waste energy using it. > > I suggest that we mark it as obsolete. There is also bug#66795. It is an evidence, that hashcash is used in Emacs. OTOH, there's nobody who is able to fix this. So I support your proposal. Best regards, Michael.
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Subject: Obsoleting mail/hashcash.el
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Severity: wishlist
The mail/hashcash.el library implements an Emacs wrapper around
hashcash, where the idea was that you added a small amount of "proof of
work" to an Email header, which if everyone used it would be expensive
for spammers:
"The email anti-spam tool, like the proof-of-work algorithm, is
also called hashcash and is used to create stamps to attach to mail
to add a micro-cost to sending mail to deter spamming. The main
use of the hashcash stamp is as a white-listing hint to help
hashcash users avoid losing email due to content based and
blacklist based anti-spam systems." - http://www.hashcash.org
This might be nice in theory, but it is irrelevant as an anti-spam
measure on today's internet, since almost no one uses it. Let's not
mislead users to waste energy using it.
I suggest that we mark it as obsolete.
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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