Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 76763) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2025 14:38:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 05 09:38:29 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1tpptF-0002iO-2D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 09:38:29 -0500 Received: from mail-10696.protonmail.ch ([79.135.106.96]:41049) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <prafulla.giri@HIDDEN>) id 1tpptA-0002i0-VF for 76763 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 09:38:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1741185497; x=1741444697; bh=l9tco1eYBWm/6ICAD84RxtY7BTPGgIhHdGH4mI7dYtc=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector:List-Unsubscribe:List-Unsubscribe-Post; b=U3wKc/kylMBoX2htYQ7fQF80ZXcs9hKvAprpYIe4/qSJbX+H5pWU1htitQHjxWfBH RZ6F5b0VnTJd+sfG/D1zIwbcfMgWu3qPGs6HKwv4Ok9BZxBcy3mOFx4TEnqr9Fui45 Pj8OAoIwl6ut+dsgZkFPHJThnY7tOFUY1enjnvIF8oDcO0XbJW1TqDkIkZCGNHl3lr 31W+97wcYNAohpil/ZZ6kdOJ0WgCV1MscrxFKm3/UfSeEfei4CHyjK4+QTeeHC8RF3 KSkOA0EnYLsmsvH/BXuH/GI1naDNSSsalh0D5LntbWOl6NH8SfFNYcW0Ye1dYudLLT EmUlhlLe5Gg/g== Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 14:38:15 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> From: Prafulla Giri <prafulla.giri@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#76763: TUTORIAL: Add suggestion to Palm-Press CONTROL Key Message-ID: <0ASvsMenr7sRAODjrJAPMB6kgkv-ppi-_bnflZediWbtqX7G-30AHyvDEOn7HnvDm2uoQZCJTQ1lCqFmSRFZy1iBmu4fIWxNDxBq024-R8U=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86v7snoaaw.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <j1sPp6eqCKUm7Rv22EbPny8FjWhqdCuKYEWBLFvW6OqMXjUgtohnxqgn-4GrJb_5imoU9KujeWsp8xVMPynzn5fCsWhi6EPhF0ONYBio7lo=@protonmail.com> <86v7snoaaw.fsf@HIDDEN> Feedback-ID: 33818994:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 0e380c92fa81c5807332439caf4ee52b84bcd728 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76763 Cc: 76763 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wednesday, March 5th, 2025 at 7:36 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrot= e: > I think this fits the Emacs FAQ better than it fits the tutorial. I think it is better if novices were shown the healthier way right from the= get-go: the tutorial. Discussions of RSI-prevention is often intensive: co= vering custom keybindings, split-keyboards, etc. much above what a novice c= an take in. In my own case, I'd heard of Emacs pinkie but didn't exactly kn= ow what it was till I woke up with them; and I'd deferred learning about er= gonomic emacs til I sufficiently mastered vanilla emacs. I really wish I ha= d someone tell me to palm-press to begin with. And what better place than t= he tutorial itself? I think we'll save upcoming generations starting on the= now-prevalent keyboard lots of strain if we only give them a heads up.
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