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This is on MacOS in GUI mode.

Recipe: Make emacs full screen by clicking on the green button (maybe
also <f11>?).  Now in this frame make another one (for example, by
cmd-N or C-x 5 2).

A new frame opens on a new desktop.  Focus shifts there.  Now try to
execute a command by esc-x (M-x).  There is no prompt on the bottom of
the screen.  If you shift to the previous desktop, you will see that the
prompt for the command to be executed appears there.  [I am not 100%
sure, but I also think the wrong emacs window is selected, as whatever
characters typed after M-x end up in the wrong place.]

I believe the mis-behavior also happens with some other actions
immediately after new frame creation, but have not been able to figure
out precisely when.

Notice that the trouble does not appear if I have a non-full-screen
Emace and make a new frame.

Emacs downloaded from MacPorts.  Versions before 30.1 did not have
this "feature."

Thanks in advance.

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> From: Boris Aronov <aronov.boris@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 21:35:04 +0200
> 
> This is on MacOS in GUI mode.
> 
> Recipe: Make emacs full screen by clicking on the green button (maybe
> also <f11>?).  Now in this frame make another one (for example, by
> cmd-N or C-x 5 2).
> 
> A new frame opens on a new desktop.  Focus shifts there.  Now try to
> execute a command by esc-x (M-x).  There is no prompt on the bottom of
> the screen.  If you shift to the previous desktop, you will see that the
> prompt for the command to be executed appears there.  [I am not 100%
> sure, but I also think the wrong emacs window is selected, as whatever
> characters typed after M-x end up in the wrong place.]
> 
> I believe the mis-behavior also happens with some other actions
> immediately after new frame creation, but have not been able to figure
> out precisely when.
> 
> Notice that the trouble does not appear if I have a non-full-screen
> Emace and make a new frame.
> 
> Emacs downloaded from MacPorts.  Versions before 30.1 did not have
> this "feature."

Gerd and Martin, any suggestions or comments?

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> From: Boris Aronov <aronov.boris@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 21:35:04 +0200
>> 
>> This is on MacOS in GUI mode.
>> 
>> Recipe: Make emacs full screen by clicking on the green button (maybe
>> also <f11>?).  Now in this frame make another one (for example, by
>> cmd-N or C-x 5 2).
>> 
>> A new frame opens on a new desktop.  Focus shifts there.  Now try to
>> execute a command by esc-x (M-x).  There is no prompt on the bottom of
>> the screen.  If you shift to the previous desktop, you will see that the
>> prompt for the command to be executed appears there.  [I am not 100%
>> sure, but I also think the wrong emacs window is selected, as whatever
>> characters typed after M-x end up in the wrong place.]
>> 
>> I believe the mis-behavior also happens with some other actions
>> immediately after new frame creation, but have not been able to figure
>> out precisely when.
>> 
>> Notice that the trouble does not appear if I have a non-full-screen
>> Emace and make a new frame.
>> 
>> Emacs downloaded from MacPorts.  Versions before 30.1 did not have
>> this "feature."
>
> Gerd and Martin, any suggestions or comments?

Doesn't seem to happen with -Q for me, neither on master not emacs-30 (a
version of emacs-30 that is ca 180 commits behind; savannah seems to be
down again. This is macOS 15.5 on an M1 mac.

C-x 5 2 does not open a new frame on a new desktop for me. The new frame
opens on top of the fullsize first frame.

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> From: Gerd M�llmann <gerd.moellmann@HIDDEN>
> Cc: Boris Aronov <aronov.boris@HIDDEN>,  martin rudalics
>  <rudalics@HIDDEN>,  78527 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 12:25:58 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> >> From: Boris Aronov <aronov.boris@HIDDEN>
> >> Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 21:35:04 +0200
> >> 
> >> This is on MacOS in GUI mode.
> >> 
> >> Recipe: Make emacs full screen by clicking on the green button (maybe
> >> also <f11>?).  Now in this frame make another one (for example, by
> >> cmd-N or C-x 5 2).
> >> 
> >> A new frame opens on a new desktop.  Focus shifts there.  Now try to
> >> execute a command by esc-x (M-x).  There is no prompt on the bottom of
> >> the screen.  If you shift to the previous desktop, you will see that the
> >> prompt for the command to be executed appears there.  [I am not 100%
> >> sure, but I also think the wrong emacs window is selected, as whatever
> >> characters typed after M-x end up in the wrong place.]
> >> 
> >> I believe the mis-behavior also happens with some other actions
> >> immediately after new frame creation, but have not been able to figure
> >> out precisely when.
> >> 
> >> Notice that the trouble does not appear if I have a non-full-screen
> >> Emace and make a new frame.
> >> 
> >> Emacs downloaded from MacPorts.  Versions before 30.1 did not have
> >> this "feature."
> >
> > Gerd and Martin, any suggestions or comments?
> 
> Doesn't seem to happen with -Q for me, neither on master not emacs-30 (a
> version of emacs-30 that is ca 180 commits behind; savannah seems to be
> down again. This is macOS 15.5 on an M1 mac.

So this could be MacPorts specific, then.

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