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 Content preview:  Hi, get confused =?UTF-8?Q?intern-soft=A0return?= a symbol which already
    =?UTF-8?Q?unbound,=A0?= Here are the lines to make a symbol then makunbound the symbol,
    but after that the intern-soft still return the symbol: (setq a-test-variable-unbound-later
    t) 

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Hi, get confused intern-soft=A0return a symbol which already unbound,=A0=0A=
=0A=
Here are the lines to make a symbol then makunbound the symbol, but after t=
hat the intern-soft still return the symbol:=0A=
=0A=
(setq a-test-variable-unbound-later t)=0A=
=0A=
(intern-soft "a-test-variable-unbound-later")=0A=
=0A=
(makunbound 'a-test-variable-unbound-later)=0A=
=0A=
(boundp 'a-test-variable-unbound-later)=0A=
=0A=
(intern-soft "a-test-variable-unbound-later") ;; why not nil?=0A=
=0A=
It's a feature or a bug? Thanks=

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Subject: bug#78952: Bug or feature? intern-soft return non-exists symbol
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> From: Lin Sun <sunlin7@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 04:22:38 +0000
> msip_labels: 
> 
> Hi, get confused intern-soft�return a symbol which already unbound,�
> 
> Here are the lines to make a symbol then makunbound the symbol, but after that the intern-soft still return the symbol:
> 
> (setq a-test-variable-unbound-later t)
> 
> (intern-soft "a-test-variable-unbound-later")
> 
> (makunbound 'a-test-variable-unbound-later)
> 
> (boundp 'a-test-variable-unbound-later)
> 
> (intern-soft "a-test-variable-unbound-later") ;; why not nil?
> 
> It's a feature or a bug? Thanks

makunbound doesn't remove the symbol from obarray.  Use unintern to
remove it.

This is not a bug.

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tags 78952 notabug
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> From: Lin Sun <sunlin7@HIDDEN>
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2025 04:22:38 +0000
> msip_labels: 
> 
> Hi, get confused intern-soft�return a symbol which already unbound,�
> 
> Here are the lines to make a symbol then makunbound the symbol, but after that the intern-soft still return the symbol:
> 
> (setq a-test-variable-unbound-later t)
> 
> (intern-soft "a-test-variable-unbound-later")
> 
> (makunbound 'a-test-variable-unbound-later)
> 
> (boundp 'a-test-variable-unbound-later)
> 
> (intern-soft "a-test-variable-unbound-later") ;; why not nil?
> 
> It's a feature or a bug? Thanks

makunbound doesn't remove the symbol from obarray.  Use unintern to
remove it.

This is not a bug.

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