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https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/modus-themes/Installati=
on.html
says:

"The Modus themes are distributed with Emacs starting with version
28.1. On older versions of Emacs, they can be installed using Emacs=E2=80=
=99s
package manager or manually from their code repository. There also exist
packages for distributions of GNU/Linux."

But if you attempt to install from ELPA within, for example, 27.1, you
get:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Package =E2=80=98emacs-28.1=E2=80=99 =
is unavailable")
  signal(error ("Package =E2=80=98emacs-28.1=E2=80=99 is unavailable"))
  error("Package `%s-%s' is unavailable" emacs "28.1")
  package-compute-transaction((#s(package-desc :name modus-themes :version =
(4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legible and customizable themes" :reqs ((=
emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://=
github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibi=
lity") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN") (:autho=
rs ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780=
975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signed nil)) ((emacs (28 1))) (#s(packag=
e-desc :name modus-themes :version (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legibl=
e and customizable themes" :reqs ((emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" =
:dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:=
keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibility") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou=
" . "info@HIDDEN") (:authors ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@protes=
ilaos.com")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signe=
d nil)))
  package-compute-transaction(nil ((modus-themes)))
  package-install(modus-themes nil)
  funcall-interactively(package-install modus-themes nil)
  call-interactively(package-install record nil)
  command-execute(package-install record)
  execute-extended-command(nil "package-install" "package-install")
  funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "package-install" "pac=
kage-install")
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
  command-execute(execute-extended-command)

because the modus package requires > 28.

So I guess the fix is to remove "using Emacs=E2=80=99s package manager or"

(The ideal fix would be to be more specific, and say "On versions older
than 28.1..." but that's harder to maintain I understand.)


In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.33, cair=
o version 1.16.0)
 of 2024-09-19, modified by Debian built on sbuild2.trisquel.org
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004
System Description: Trisquel GNU/Linux Aramo (11.0.1)

Configured using:
 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr
 --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib
 --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info
 --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes
 --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:=
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/share=
/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build
 x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib
 --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib --localstatedir=3D/var/lib
 --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd
 --with-pop=3Dyes
 --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:=
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/share=
/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-cairo
 --with-x=3Dyes --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars
 'CFLAGS=3D-g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=3D/build/emacs-o3EbAb/emacs-27.1+1=3D.
 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=3Dformat-security -Wall'
 'CPPFLAGS=3D-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2'
 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY
INOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF
ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD
JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  erc-log-mode: t
  erc-match-mode: t
  erc-stamp-mode: t
  iswitchb-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-autoloads hide=
s /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-autoloads
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode hides /usr/sha=
re/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-pkg hides /usr=
/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-pkg

Features:
(shadow emacsbug ispell nnir mule-util sort smiley gnus-cite mm-archive
gnus-bcklg gnus-async mail-extr gnus-dup qp cl-extra help-mode gnus-ml
disp-table misearch multi-isearch view gnus-topic utf-7 nndraft nnmh
nnmbox gnutls gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual
gnus-cache network-stream nsm nntp gnus-registry registry eieio-base
spam spam-stat gnus-uu yenc gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view
mml-smime smime dig gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-cloud
nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time iso8601 gnus-spec
gnus-int gnus-range message rmc dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec
epa epg epg-config mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win allout warnings remember
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erc erc-backend erc-compat pp erc-loaddefs rst compile hippie-exp comint
ansi-color etags fileloop generator xref project ring css-mode smie
sgml-mode imenu eww mm-url gnus nnheader gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs
time-date url-queue url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods
url-history mailcap shr text-property-search url-cookie url-domsuf
url-util puny svg xml dom format-spec color edit-server iswitchb paren
modus-vivendi-theme cus-edit cus-start cus-load modus-themes pcase
color-theme wid-edit cl sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mail-utils
reporter iceweasel mm-util mail-prsvr beancount derived edmacro kmacro
thingatpt noutline outline easy-mmode finder-inf package easymenu
browse-url url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core
cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq
byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib tooltip eldoc
electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win
x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe
tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode
prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer
select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core
term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang
misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms
cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian
cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs
button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5
base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable
backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting
system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit
x multi-tty make-network-process emacs)

Memory information:
((conses 16 2503119 323089)
 (symbols 48 28152 4)
 (strings 32 850759 54627)
 (string-bytes 1 38402511)
 (vectors 16 45158)
 (vector-slots 8 2193076 209380)
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Subject: bug#78992: 27.1; Incorrect instructions for installing modus-themes on older emacs
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merge 78992 78991
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> From: John Sullivan <john@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 13:40:13 -0400
> 
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/modus-themes/Installation.html
> says:
> 
> "The Modus themes are distributed with Emacs starting with version
> 28.1. On older versions of Emacs, they can be installed using Emacs’s
> package manager or manually from their code repository. There also exist
> packages for distributions of GNU/Linux."
> 
> But if you attempt to install from ELPA within, for example, 27.1, you
> get:
> 
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Package ‘emacs-28.1’ is unavailable")
>   signal(error ("Package ‘emacs-28.1’ is unavailable"))
>   error("Package `%s-%s' is unavailable" emacs "28.1")
>   package-compute-transaction((#s(package-desc :name modus-themes :version (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legible and customizable themes" :reqs ((emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibility") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN") (:authors ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signed nil)) ((emacs (28 1))) (#s(package-desc :name modus-themes :version (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legible and customizable themes" :reqs ((emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibility") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN") (:authors ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signed nil)))
>   package-compute-transaction(nil ((modus-themes)))
>   package-install(modus-themes nil)
>   funcall-interactively(package-install modus-themes nil)
>   call-interactively(package-install record nil)
>   command-execute(package-install record)
>   execute-extended-command(nil "package-install" "package-install")
>   funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "package-install" "package-install")
>   call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
>   command-execute(execute-extended-command)
> 
> because the modus package requires > 28.
> 
> So I guess the fix is to remove "using Emacs’s package manager or"
> 
> (The ideal fix would be to be more specific, and say "On versions older
> than 28.1..." but that's harder to maintain I understand.)

This is an exact duplicate of bug#78991, so I'm merging them.

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