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On older versions of Emacs, they can be installed using Emacs’s > package manager or manually from their code repository. There also exist > packages for distributions of GNU/Linux." > > But if you attempt to install from ELPA within, for example, 27.1, you > get: > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Package ‘emacs-28.1’ is unavailable") > signal(error ("Package ‘emacs-28.1’ is unavailable")) > error("Package `%s-%s' is unavailable" emacs "28.1") > package-compute-transaction((#s(package-desc :name modus-themes :version (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legible and customizable themes" :reqs ((emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibility") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN") (:authors ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signed nil)) ((emacs (28 1))) (#s(package-desc :name modus-themes :version (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legible and customizable themes" :reqs ((emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibility") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN") (:authors ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signed nil))) > package-compute-transaction(nil ((modus-themes))) > package-install(modus-themes nil) > funcall-interactively(package-install modus-themes nil) > call-interactively(package-install record nil) > command-execute(package-install record) > execute-extended-command(nil "package-install" "package-install") > funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "package-install" "package-install") > call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) > command-execute(execute-extended-command) > > because the modus package requires > 28. > > So I guess the fix is to remove "using Emacs’s package manager or" > > (The ideal fix would be to be more specific, and say "On versions older > than 28.1..." but that's harder to maintain I understand.) This is an exact duplicate of bug#78991, so I'm merging them.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/modus-themes/Installation.html says: "The Modus themes are distributed with Emacs starting with version 28.1. On older versions of Emacs, they can be installed using Emacs’s package manager or manually from their code repository. There [...] Content analysis details: (3.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2001:470:142:0:0:0:0:17 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [172.58.250.28 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/modus-themes/Installati= on.html says: "The Modus themes are distributed with Emacs starting with version 28.1. On older versions of Emacs, they can be installed using Emacs=E2=80= =99s package manager or manually from their code repository. There also exist packages for distributions of GNU/Linux." But if you attempt to install from ELPA within, for example, 27.1, you get: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Package =E2=80=98emacs-28.1=E2=80=99 = is unavailable") signal(error ("Package =E2=80=98emacs-28.1=E2=80=99 is unavailable")) error("Package `%s-%s' is unavailable" emacs "28.1") package-compute-transaction((#s(package-desc :name modus-themes :version = (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legible and customizable themes" :reqs ((= emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://= github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibi= lity") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN") (:autho= rs ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@HIDDEN")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780= 975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signed nil)) ((emacs (28 1))) (#s(packag= e-desc :name modus-themes :version (4 8 0) :summary "Elegant, highly legibl= e and customizable themes" :reqs ((emacs (28 1))) :kind tar :archive "gnu" = :dir nil :extras ((:url . "https://github.com/protesilaos/modus-themes") (:= keywords "faces" "theme" "accessibility") (:maintainer "Protesilaos Stavrou= " . "info@HIDDEN") (:authors ("Protesilaos Stavrou" . "info@protes= ilaos.com")) (:commit . "b7aa3ae780975b6dda98a75197a6ff89876bb7b7")) :signe= d nil))) package-compute-transaction(nil ((modus-themes))) package-install(modus-themes nil) funcall-interactively(package-install modus-themes nil) call-interactively(package-install record nil) command-execute(package-install record) execute-extended-command(nil "package-install" "package-install") funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "package-install" "pac= kage-install") call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) command-execute(execute-extended-command) because the modus package requires > 28. So I guess the fix is to remove "using Emacs=E2=80=99s package manager or" (The ideal fix would be to be more specific, and say "On versions older than 28.1..." but that's harder to maintain I understand.) In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.33, cair= o version 1.16.0) of 2024-09-19, modified by Debian built on sbuild2.trisquel.org Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101004 System Description: Trisquel GNU/Linux Aramo (11.0.1) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:= /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:= /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/27.1/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-cairo --with-x=3Dyes --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=3D-g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=3D/build/emacs-o3EbAb/emacs-27.1+1=3D. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=3Dformat-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: erc-log-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-autoloads hide= s /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-autoloads /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode hides /usr/sha= re/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-pkg hides /usr= /share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa-src/cmake-mode-3.22.1/cmake-mode-pkg Features: (shadow emacsbug ispell nnir mule-util sort smiley gnus-cite mm-archive gnus-bcklg gnus-async mail-extr gnus-dup qp cl-extra help-mode gnus-ml disp-table misearch multi-isearch view gnus-topic utf-7 nndraft nnmh nnmbox gnutls gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-cache network-stream nsm nntp gnus-registry registry eieio-base spam spam-stat gnus-uu yenc gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time iso8601 gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message rmc dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa epg epg-config mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win allout warnings remember erc-custom erc-log advice erc-match erc-stamp erc-truncate erc-goodies erc erc-backend erc-compat pp erc-loaddefs rst compile hippie-exp comint ansi-color etags fileloop generator xref project ring css-mode smie sgml-mode imenu eww mm-url gnus nnheader gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs time-date url-queue url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history mailcap shr text-property-search url-cookie url-domsuf url-util puny svg xml dom format-spec color edit-server iswitchb paren modus-vivendi-theme cus-edit cus-start cus-load modus-themes pcase color-theme wid-edit cl sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mail-utils reporter iceweasel mm-util mail-prsvr beancount derived edmacro kmacro thingatpt noutline outline easy-mmode finder-inf package easymenu browse-url url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 2503119 323089) (symbols 48 28152 4) (strings 32 850759 54627) (string-bytes 1 38402511) (vectors 16 45158) (vector-slots 8 2193076 209380) (floats 8 552 510) (intervals 56 4243 2132) (buffers 1000 59))
John Sullivan <john@HIDDEN>
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